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Pastor Joel Osteen: Being gay is a sin (Original Post) bigdarryl Apr 2012 OP
Do you want to be gay or do you want to be rich? no_hypocrisy Apr 2012 #1
I know a helluva lot of people who are both! sofa king May 2012 #27
So is his hairdo. CurtEastPoint Apr 2012 #2
I suppose Osteen has now become asjr Apr 2012 #3
Rich actor get the red out Apr 2012 #4
I heard a Catholic priest tell a group of teens that Gman Apr 2012 #5
Just being gay is a sin? A status sin, so to speak. It used to be illegal just to be an alcoholic. GodlessBiker Apr 2012 #6
Sadly, chervilant Apr 2012 #7
Fleecing the flock is a sin. JNelson6563 Apr 2012 #8
He has every right to believe that. Taylor Smite Apr 2012 #9
welcome to DU grantcart Apr 2012 #25
Osteen is associated with the Trinity Broadcast Bigot Network. They are criminals using fear to Lint Head Apr 2012 #10
It really is a disgusting business - these guys are predators... polichick Apr 2012 #14
It's amazing they get away with the things they do. They operate in the open. Lint Head Apr 2012 #17
It's stunning that people are so easily fooled... polichick Apr 2012 #19
The first thing you have to accept is that ANY "so called" religious representative on commercial TV tech3149 Apr 2012 #11
Actually, being hateful is the sin - but somehow right-wingers don't get that. polichick Apr 2012 #12
This from a guy that begs elderly people to send him Rex Apr 2012 #13
I'd say Being Pastor Joel Osteen is a sin! Hateful little shithead! MADem Apr 2012 #15
The young people are rejecting your "prosperity gospel". Dawson Leery Apr 2012 #16
Actually I hear its fabulous. grantcart Apr 2012 #18
+1 Rex Apr 2012 #20
The first time I saw him on TV, just a few seconds sakabatou Apr 2012 #21
If being gay is a sin, being a megachurch revival-tent clown huckster doofus Arkana Apr 2012 #22
Osteen sets off my gaydar... markpkessinger Apr 2012 #23
nah he's too smarmy, that can happen sometimes the smardar is too sensitive and interacts with the grantcart Apr 2012 #24
Matthew 19:24 JaneQPublic May 2012 #26
See this "mean god" syndrome is why we can't all have a good life LaurenG May 2012 #28

no_hypocrisy

(46,097 posts)
1. Do you want to be gay or do you want to be rich?
Mon Apr 30, 2012, 09:29 AM
Apr 2012

The latter is what drives people to his TV show and into his pews.

sofa king

(10,857 posts)
27. I know a helluva lot of people who are both!
Wed May 2, 2012, 07:29 AM
May 2012

Gay couples are usually DINKs, too (double-income no kids), since it's been made so damned difficult for them to adopt kids. Partly for that reason, among many others, most of the gay couples I knew were doing considerably better than their heterosexual friends.

What inspires me to write this is a particular couple I know. They lived together and looked into adopting, but it wasn't going to work. So, they cornered the market on an orthodontic procedure instead, and retired to a tropical island less than ten years later.

asjr

(10,479 posts)
3. I suppose Osteen has now become
Mon Apr 30, 2012, 09:30 AM
Apr 2012

rich enough he can say anything he wants to say. I am so tired of people like him. All of them have forgotten what Christianity actually is.

get the red out

(13,466 posts)
4. Rich actor
Mon Apr 30, 2012, 09:37 AM
Apr 2012

That's what he is, that's what all like him are. They are a stage presence pandering to people who want to believe that if they hate the right people, vote the RIGHT way, send the actors like him money; then GAWD will bless them with entry into the world of the haves. It's a religion, just not the one they say it is.

Gman

(24,780 posts)
5. I heard a Catholic priest tell a group of teens that
Mon Apr 30, 2012, 09:38 AM
Apr 2012

Being gay is not a sin. Acting on being gay is the sin. No where In the Bible does it say it is a sin to be gay. The act is what is described as a sin. Just sayin' these RW preachers overlook that.

GodlessBiker

(6,314 posts)
6. Just being gay is a sin? A status sin, so to speak. It used to be illegal just to be an alcoholic.
Mon Apr 30, 2012, 09:56 AM
Apr 2012

Another example of religious absurdity.

chervilant

(8,267 posts)
7. Sadly,
Mon Apr 30, 2012, 10:25 AM
Apr 2012

this latter day 'Elmer Gantry' packs his arena every Sunday, sheer testimony to the number of people who believe as does he.

 

Taylor Smite

(86 posts)
9. He has every right to believe that.
Mon Apr 30, 2012, 10:37 AM
Apr 2012

First Amendment says: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof

The Establishment Clause says the government cant establish a national religion, or force religious beliefs on people.

The Free Exercise Clause says the you can believe whatever you want, as long as you dont take away the civil rights/liberties of others.


Cool dude, believe that it is a sin. But just like we dont want Sharia law in the US, we dont want any other religious law mandated on the US. Thats why we have the Constitution.....the document that conservatives say they love so much, but somehow they miss the very first line of the very first rule.

Lint Head

(15,064 posts)
10. Osteen is associated with the Trinity Broadcast Bigot Network. They are criminals using fear to
Mon Apr 30, 2012, 10:48 AM
Apr 2012

extort money from people who are at a weak moment in their lives. There is not one television evangelical who is sincere when it comes to Christian beliefs. Not one. It is a business that sucks big money out of the economy tax free.

polichick

(37,152 posts)
14. It really is a disgusting business - these guys are predators...
Mon Apr 30, 2012, 12:19 PM
Apr 2012

And it's no accident that they build their mega-churches in places where the people have been left behind by changing times and a bad economy. Even the placement of their churches is predatory.

Lint Head

(15,064 posts)
17. It's amazing they get away with the things they do. They operate in the open.
Mon Apr 30, 2012, 01:16 PM
Apr 2012

With all of the problems in the Catholic church at least they generally operate some real charities. These televangelists are totally crooked and would lie to their own next of kin for a dollar.

polichick

(37,152 posts)
19. It's stunning that people are so easily fooled...
Mon Apr 30, 2012, 02:01 PM
Apr 2012

Even when these organizations are outed - as the Catholic church has been outed for aiding and abetting pedophiles for generations - people continue to support and enable. Televangelists might as well be wearing t-shirts printed with the words "CON MAN" - and still people follow.

tech3149

(4,452 posts)
11. The first thing you have to accept is that ANY "so called" religious representative on commercial TV
Mon Apr 30, 2012, 11:54 AM
Apr 2012

is a huckster whose only goal is making money. How much do you think it costs to put together that production and get it distributed to hundreds of outlets around the country? It ain't cheap and they wouldn't do it if there weren't a payback.
My ex's father was a minister and were it not for the tax breaks that let them build a rectory, they couldn't have gotten by.
There was no thing as an eight hour day. It wasn't just him that was expected to do whatever/whenever. His wife and children were always working to support themselves and the church and all the congregation.

Osteen and his ilk are probably hard pressed to work a few hours a day.

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
13. This from a guy that begs elderly people to send him
Mon Apr 30, 2012, 12:15 PM
Apr 2012

their SS checks.

I hope there is a special place in Hell for the Osteens of the world.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
15. I'd say Being Pastor Joel Osteen is a sin! Hateful little shithead!
Mon Apr 30, 2012, 12:27 PM
Apr 2012

If he's really a Christian he should understand that this Christ guy he praises so much did not write those lousy "Scriptures" he makes such a big deal over.

They were written by women-hating, Filistine-despising, homophobes who wanted to keep certain elements of society down so they could keep all the power and influence to themselves!

This guy is a putz! A dumb putz, to boot!

Dawson Leery

(19,348 posts)
16. The young people are rejecting your "prosperity gospel".
Mon Apr 30, 2012, 01:14 PM
Apr 2012

It is a gospel of hate which the Evangelicals have been pushing since their unfortunate existence began.
Joel Olsteen and his ilk could have been and should have been dealt with 150 years back.

Arkana

(24,347 posts)
22. If being gay is a sin, being a megachurch revival-tent clown huckster doofus
Mon Apr 30, 2012, 05:06 PM
Apr 2012

who screws gullible old people out of their social security checks is a much bigger fucking sin.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
24. nah he's too smarmy, that can happen sometimes the smardar is too sensitive and interacts with the
Mon Apr 30, 2012, 06:06 PM
Apr 2012

gaydar.

JaneQPublic

(7,113 posts)
26. Matthew 19:24
Wed May 2, 2012, 02:04 AM
May 2012

"Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God."

It appears Flock-Fleecer Osteen has no better chance of getting into heaven than do we gay sinners.

LaurenG

(24,841 posts)
28. See this "mean god" syndrome is why we can't all have a good life
Wed May 2, 2012, 08:32 AM
May 2012

People who use scripture to pick and choose which verses they'll conform to make me want to scream FUCKING HYPOCRITE on international tv!

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