Dear Bill and Hillary Clinton: Really? "Make a deal with whom?'

[flpoljunkie]

Certainly not the Republican party of today.

In the Clintons’ talk of brokering compromise, an implicit rebuke of Obama years

By Philip Rucker, Thursday, October 31, 11:35 AM

NORFOLK — In recent stump speeches and policy remarks, Bill and Hillary Clinton have offered sharp criticisms of the partisan gridlock paralyzing Washington, signaling a potential 2016 campaign theme if Hillary Clinton chooses to run for president.

The Clintons’ critiques in recent days have been explicitly aimed at congressional Republicans, who helped spur a 16-day government shutdown and potential debt default in October. But their remarks also seem to contain an implicit rebuke of President Obama’s failure to change Washington as he pledged when first running for the White House.

The arguments suggest a way that Hillary Clinton could attempt to run in 2016 as an agent of change — potentially putting her at odds with the two-term Democrat she would be seeking to replace.

At campaign rallies and other recent appearances, both Clintons have called for soothing partisan tensions and have espoused a vision of governing by compromise. Barnstorming Virginia this week with longtime friend and Democratic gubernatorial candidate Terry McAuliffe, Bill Clinton repeatedly assailed ideological politics on both sides of the aisle.

“When people sneeringly say, ‘McAuliffe is a dealmaker,’ I say, ‘Oh, if we only had one in Washington during that shutdown,’ ” the former president said at a rally here in Norfolk on Monday. “It’s exhausting seeing politicians waste time with all these arguments. It is exhausting. People deserve somebody who will get this show on the road.”

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http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/in-the-clintons-talk-of-brokering-compromise-an-implicit-rebuke-of-obama-years/2013/10/31/f8cf7d66-40a1-11e3-a751-f032898f2dbc_story.html?hpid=z1

[Scuba]

2. "Right of Obama" does not describe a candidate I can enthusiastically support.

[Walk away]

3. Everyone running for office in 2016 will be saying the same thing. nt

[flpoljunkie]

11. Perhaps, but it will not turn out the liberal base who come out and vote in the primaries.

[NYC_SKP]

4. Saddened, but not surprised. The Clintons were never the types to turn away from an opportunity.

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"If only Obama had been more of a "dealmaker"..."

"How sad that we had to survive "Obama" for two whole terms, what a FAILURE!"

For me, by trying to portray Obama in any way as a failure, they are no better than the Republicans and Teabaggers who fought harder than ever against reform and progress.

Shame on you two.

[Whisp]

13. this might be a hint that Keystone is dead.

or that Obama is not covering Hillary on that State Dept sexual assault and pedophilia scandal that broke last June - the re-investigation should be over by now.

something that Obama said or did does not amuse the King and Queen., therefore the filth spews from said King and Queen pieholes.

[Little Star]

5. And further down in the article....

The Clintons have been careful to distinguish between promoting bipartisanship and ceding ground on core values. Hillary Clinton, for example, has been busy advocating for traditionally liberal issues such as minority voting rights, gay marriage equality and women’s rights.

[flpoljunkie]

6. There are a lot more issues that matter--particularly economic, like perhaps 'entitlement reform'

Issues like 'minority voting rights, gay marriage equality and women’s rights' are not really going out on a limb for Democrats. They are, in a word, 'safe.'

[lostincalifornia]

7. I don't trust the Washington Post. The article seems to "imply". " there remarks seem to also

Contain an implicit rebuke of President Obama". Why do I view this with the upmost skepticism?

It makes no sense for the Clinton's to be dividing Democrats. Surely they remember what happened during bill Clinton's 8 years. Most recently the accusation thrown at Hillary regarding Benghazi. Remember how the repukes tore her apart regarding her healthcare proposal

No, this is to stir up shit by the MSM.

The Clinton's know there is no compromise with the tea baggers, and that is something he didn't have to contend with.

a quote without giving the full context is bullshit journalism, intentionally meant to deceive

What if the context was talking about the pukes able to deal with the tea baggers?

I call bs on the Washington post, and have been doing so for quite some time

[flpoljunkie]

9. The Republican party of today is not the Republican party of Bill Clinton's presidency or Hillary's

time in the Senate. They are uninterested in common-sense solutions or compromise.

[lostincalifornia]

17. Good one, and a valid point

[Beacool]

16. This...........

No, this is to stir up shit by the MSM.

[lostincalifornia]

18. I think we agree

[Beacool]

20. The media is bored.

They have watched Obama and Hillary's interactions with a microscope ever since they both ran for president. They can't wait to create drama because drama sells. The fact that both Clintons and Obama get along just fine is not good enough for them, so they have to create fake tension where none exists.

[lostincalifornia]

24. agreed /nt

[hopemountain]

28. you have this right! nt

[Arkana]

8. Bill's remembering his gladhanding days.

I don't think he quite realizes what Obama's up against. Republicans were assholes, but the level of hate and racism coming from them now is just unbelievably bad. Gingrich could be negotiated with--Boehner and Cantor can't.

[flpoljunkie]

10. Precisely!

[MBS]

25. BINGO! + 1000

I'd only offer the thought that the Big Dog, with his vaunted political savvy, must surely KNOW this already, and is choosing to ignore the difference in circumstances for less than admirable reasons.

[karynnj]

30. Either that or his political savvy is over rated

He made the 1992 race that should have been an easy win with a President below 40 into a rollercoaster ride and won against a lame opponent when the country was at peace and prosperous. He was disaterous supporting Hillary in 2008 - creating several of the negative events.

[Whisp]

12. shut up, Bill. shut your nasty hole.

you selfish blankety blank.

[Beacool]

15. Why don't you refrain once in a while from the reflexive attack?

Particularly when it doesn't have any merit?

[Whisp]

19. He should have more respect for Obama.

Not the first time he pours his sludge against Obama in his oh so clever ways he thinks is so clever.

Something is not going well for the Clintons - Obama is not helping them with something They Want. He gets like this when he can't get his way. There are too many instances like this to count and can't be put up to coincidence or innocence.

[Beacool]

21. This has nothing to do with Obama.

It was the reporter's version of events, but leave it to you to run to your keyboard to "pour slush" on Bill. Typical..............

[Whisp]

22. Are you saying the reporter misquoted or made up the quote...

“When people sneeringly say, ‘McAuliffe is a dealmaker,’ I say, ‘Oh, if we only had one in Washington during that shutdown,’ ” the former president said at a rally here in Norfolk on Monday. “It’s exhausting seeing politicians waste time with all these arguments. It is exhausting. People deserve somebody who will get this show on the road.”

Because if Bill said that, he knew damn well he was opening interpretations he could weasel out on - dog whistle Billie. Damn well.

[Myrina]

26. Maybe he was referring to Boehner. Or Cruz.

Doesn't have to necessarily to be a slam on POTUS.

[Beacool]

14. Fake drama by reporters who can't wait to cause a wedge between the Obama and Clinton camps.

How is anything they said a criticism of Obama? They were clearly referring to the Republicans. Besides, where were they campaigning? They were in VA, not NY or any other very blue state. People are angry about the shutdown, they were trying to help McAuliffe. Who campaigns by saying that they are dividers and won't get anything done?

[DonCoquixote]

23. " “When people sneeringly say, ‘McAuliffe is a dealmaker,’ I say, ‘Oh, if we only had one in Washing

Really, so Terry could have given the GOP the social security deal they wanted, or kill the ACA?

Bill, your big ugly mouth is one reason I rejected your wife in 2008. It is still a reason I intened to make sure yiou never get near the WH again.

[flpoljunkie]

31. Hard to misinterpret that quote. It speaks for itself.

[Proud Liberal Dem]

27. The Republicans (those left anyway)

will do the same stuff to ANY Democrat that gets elected forthwith. As long as they control some lever of power or occupy enough seats, they will sabotage ANY Democratic POTUS just like they did with President Obama. I never got all of the op-eds that claimed that Hillary could get stuff done that President Obama hasn't been able to (though he has gotten a lot accomplished nonetheless)

[hopemountain]

29. this "interpretation" by rucker

"Still, the Clintons’ general critiques carry echoes of the charges Republicans have frequently leveled against the current president: that Obama doesn’t respect their ideas and resists any compromise with them."


yup. rucker throws out shit.