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Wed Nov 13, 2013, 12:02 PM

Jeb Bush rumors pick up

I predicted here that Christie will be shown not to have enough national appeal among the base and is a stand in for Jeb. Here are the first rumors for Jeb in the post Christie re-election.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251336883




http://www.politico.com/morningmoney/

THE JEB BUSH BOOMLET — New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie gets all the love as the current GOP front-runner for 2016 (to the extent there can even be a front runner three years out.) But there is growing chatter in elite New York financial circles that former Florida Governor Jeb Bush is giving more serious consideration to getting in the race, especially if it appears at any point that Christie is not drawing big national appeal beyond the northeast. Several plugged in GOP sources said Bush has moved from almost certainly staying out to a 30 percent chance of getting in. The “70/30” odds pop up in so many conversations they almost seem like circulated talking points.

“I think he could run,” said one senior Republican who now works in the financial industry. “The environment is shaping up well for him. Republicans want someone who is competent and who can win and that’s Jeb.” Of course it could also be Christie. Some of the chatter ratcheted up because Bush was in NYC on Tuesday and spoke at the SIFMA conference and took some hard shots at President Obama for taking “victory dances” after fiscal fights and not building relationships with Republicans that could help on tax reform, immigration and other issues. Bush also slammed Obamacare saying it would collapse of its own weight and the GOP should be “ready with an alternative.”

Bush billed his remarks and his conversation with CNBC’s Becky Quick as “non-partisan” but he sure seemed to lay out a center-right campaign vision (education reform, immigration reform, tax reform to boost GDP) while also taking harder partisan jabs. It seemed to many in the Wall Street crowd like Bush was gearing up for a run. And people who know the governor say that if he does decide to run he will drop everything else he is doing (working for Barclays, among things) and go all in. Lots of questions remain (including how he deals with fellow Floridian Marco Rubio’s ambitions; what about Bush fatigue etc.) but don’t count out a Bush bid just yet.


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grantcart Nov 2013 OP
elfin Nov 2013 #1
grantcart Nov 2013 #3
Rozlee Nov 2013 #8
libdem4life Nov 2013 #10
grantcart Nov 2013 #12
AlinPA Nov 2013 #13
grantcart Nov 2013 #14
AlinPA Nov 2013 #15
Auggie Nov 2013 #2
grantcart Nov 2013 #4
Auggie Nov 2013 #7
libdem4life Nov 2013 #17
pscot Nov 2013 #5
Lint Head Nov 2013 #6
blkmusclmachine Nov 2013 #9
SmittynMo Nov 2013 #11
Brigid Nov 2013 #16
yellowcanine Nov 2013 #18
davidpdx Nov 2013 #19
calguy Nov 2013 #20

Response to grantcart (Original post)

Wed Nov 13, 2013, 12:05 PM

1. Police records of wife and kids probably scrubbed by now

Making him a bit bolder, perhaps. Snark.

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Response to elfin (Reply #1)

Wed Nov 13, 2013, 12:11 PM

3. Understand it was snark but people should be aware of who his wife is

She is the daughter of a Mexican migrant worker.

Jeb Bush is the only Republican that could unite the Republican party and give a credible outreach to the Hispanic population and why I believe he will be the nominee.



Bush was born as Columba Garnica Gallo in León, Guanajuato, Mexico, where she grew up and attended high school. Her parents were José María Garnica, a migrant worker, and Josefina Gallo. She met Jeb Bush in 1971 in León, where he was teaching English as part of a foreign exchange program. They were married on February 23, 1974, in Austin, Texas.[2] The couple have three children: George P. Bush, Noelle Bush and John Ellis Bush, Jr.


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Response to grantcart (Reply #3)

Wed Nov 13, 2013, 02:54 PM

8. His outreach won't work. My family can't stand him.

We know malinchistas when we see them. My parents were Mexican nationals and migrant workers too. And they were undocumented. Columba Bush has gone far from her roots in advocating for the 1%. Jeb Bush will have to win over teahaddists with his immigration views and he'll turn into a flip-flopper to do that, which means that we'll be good and pissed come the general election if he wins the primary. Then, there was that comment about immigrants being more "fertile." Well, yeah. But, he doesn't have to make it sound like we're screwing like bunnies and multiplying like Tribbles.

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Response to grantcart (Reply #3)

Wed Nov 13, 2013, 04:00 PM

10. She is a very stately, well spoken classic Hispanic woman. She has always been an asset to Jeb.

 

She's not a Cubano...but a Mexicano and there is a difference politically, even to Hispanics. I believe all of the kids are bi-lingual. The young Hispanics will be voting with even greater influence in 2016. He's the only one I think who can give Hillary a run for her money, and that's if she runs with Julian Castro-Texas. All national candidates have skeletons..Jeb is no different. Both have politically supportive family as seasoned campaigners. That's a big deal.

I've been saying this for some time. They are biding their time, running out the clock. Jeb is even more "entitled" than Hillary while being the "smart one", regardless of Barbara Bush's comment. I saw his latest interview on some talking head show right after Cruz, and Jeb gently relayed the message, to the entire Tea Party, which was in essence, sit down and shut up. He came off acting like the mature head of the family. He's good. Just a few phone calls could put the Bush organization into full speed ahead.

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Response to libdem4life (Reply #10)

Wed Nov 13, 2013, 06:13 PM

12. I agree.


Most Republicans don't know enough about the Hispanic community to understand that Cubans and other nationalities don't have a lot of political cohesion because the Cubans have never cared much about illegal immigration problems and tend to look down on Mexican and Central Americans.

Jeb is the only one that makes it close, and he is good. He is the only one that comes close to unifying the party. I am not even sure if Christie is even aware of the fact that he is there for the 'framing' effect. There will be Christie 'on the left' and Cruz on the far right and they will make Bush look 'moderate'.

He keeps the base intact, gives them a chance in Florida, North Carolina and Ohio, which no one else does.

Personally I hope that it is anybody but Jeb.

I also hope that Julian Castro is on the ticket as Veep.

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Response to grantcart (Reply #12)

Wed Nov 13, 2013, 06:37 PM

13. Is he crazy enough for the teabaggers to make it through their convention?

Cruz, Paul and Perry seem to have the most appeal in the base of rightwing, government-hating, bigoted republicans.

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Response to AlinPA (Reply #13)

Wed Nov 13, 2013, 06:43 PM

14. Teabaggers are there for the off season show, they don't have any weight in the nomination process


Dole
Bush
McCain
Romney


The Republican Party always nominates someone from their center who satisfies the establishment.

While the Democrats have a truly wide open process the Republican nomination process includes a large number of reserved delegates for state party allocation and their winner take all primaries give a huge advantage to those with money. All of the Evangelical/Tea Party candidates (Huckabee, etc ) in the past have ended up with no money and few delegates after the first three primaries.

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Response to grantcart (Reply #14)

Wed Nov 13, 2013, 07:02 PM

15. If that continues then, at least there won't be a candidate who is a complete nutcase.

But we still need to see some erosion in the wildly popular teabagger candidates' (Cruz, Paul) standing.

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Response to grantcart (Original post)

Wed Nov 13, 2013, 12:10 PM

2. I am not surprised

they've been crunching numbers, assessing his appeal. But I think it would take a miracle for him to become elected.

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Response to Auggie (Reply #2)

Wed Nov 13, 2013, 12:15 PM

4. agreed. He is their only hope but he would still have to switch Florida, Ohio, North Carolina, IA


and not lose any other state, which I don't think he can.

No other Republican comes close however. Christie is in a honeymoon period and his numbers will fade, beyond that he won't be able to strike quick victories in Iowa and South Carolina. Finally there is too much resentment against him for "helping" Obama get reelected (sic).

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Response to grantcart (Reply #4)

Wed Nov 13, 2013, 01:42 PM

7. Plus, the Bush name is covered in stench. Dems can't let people forget that. n/t

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Response to grantcart (Reply #4)

Wed Nov 13, 2013, 10:15 PM

17. The side shows. It was almost like the Dems stood back and kept their money knowing they

 

weren't going to win it anyway. I did feel for Buono, but she had to know going in. The added margin served to give additional adrenalin to Christie's political ego/honeymoon. I'm sure there is plenty of resentment that he's considered more electable by separating himself from the Tea Party. But he's still a just a "regional" and the national Moderates will emerge.

Populists/regionals don't win billion dollar national elections because the population or region can't finance them. And the national parties won't heavily support them because they can't win nationally. Thus, the corporate donors...which the Progressives on the left love to hate...have mostly already declared against the Tea Party radicals ... why? Because Big Money knows how to go where it pays off...like it or not. They are pretty much all in for the Moderate Republican with national stage presence to appear, thus the OP.

Still left is to watch how quickly the Democrats/Left solve their problems...the largest as I see it, is whether to foolishly waive national/corporate funding. This populism seems to mirror the unwinable Republican's regional issues. Both unworkable in the long run, but possibly able to scuttle a national win for the Democrats.

The sooner Democrats get that Elizabeth Warren is not unintelligent enough to throw away her amazingly successful life's work that no one else has been able to do, on a fluke up against Hillary just to please some disaffected Democrats (with no power or financial base) who dislike Ms. Clinton, and ultimately having to ask for money from the same places she's been investigating and chastising.



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Response to Auggie (Reply #2)

Wed Nov 13, 2013, 12:27 PM

5. That's what voting machines are for

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Response to grantcart (Original post)

Wed Nov 13, 2013, 12:58 PM

6. Well bless my biscuits! The Bush crime family raises it's ugly head again.

Who'd a thunk it.

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Response to grantcart (Original post)

Wed Nov 13, 2013, 03:57 PM

9. Bush-Clinton-Bush-Clinton

 

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Response to grantcart (Original post)

Wed Nov 13, 2013, 05:37 PM

11. Republicans want someone who is competent and who can win and that’s Jeb.?

OMG.That's tooooooooooo funny. By all means, bring it on Jeb. We'd love to see you fail miserably.

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Response to grantcart (Original post)

Wed Nov 13, 2013, 09:30 PM

16. So when does the Bush family finally just drop the facade . . .

And change their surname to "Soprano?"

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Response to grantcart (Original post)

Thu Nov 14, 2013, 12:30 PM

18. Which rumors? The ones about him and Katherine Harris? Or was there someone else?

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Response to yellowcanine (Reply #18)

Thu Nov 14, 2013, 05:05 PM

19. Just don't mention their love child

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Response to grantcart (Original post)

Fri Nov 15, 2013, 03:38 AM

20. I've always thought that at some point Jeb would be coming riding a white horse

Did anyone notice many months ago when his mom was asked if he should run? While she said no she also said he was the best qualified. Everything these Bushes say in public is a well scripted calculated move to further their own agenda.

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