Mon Apr 20, 2015, 01:00 PM

Hillary: a Disaster in the Making

Hillary: a Disaster in the Making by ROBERT FANTINA
One longs for a candidate for president of the United States possessing those rare traits of statesmanship, honesty and integrity. One looks back in vain to see such an example, and the near and far horizons offer no such hope, either.

We will take no time looking at the GOP (Generally Opposed to Progress) candidates, either announced or still keeping everyone on the edge of their seats as they ‘decide’ whether or not to toss their hat into the soon-to-be-crowded ring. Most, including Florida Governor and brother of one of the nation’s worst presidents ever, Jeb Bush, and New Jersey Governor, the obnoxious blowhard Chris Christie, have already decided, but enjoy the spectacle of endless conjecture. So they wait.

But on the Democratic side, no less a worthy than Hillary Rodham Clinton, lawyer, former First Lady, former senator, former Secretary of State, has slow-balled her tattered hat into an otherwise empty ring. Her handlers claim, disingenuously, that she expects competition, and a hard-fought primary campaign. Who, one wants to know, is going to take her on? She has a war chest rumored to hold $2.5 billion, more than twice what Republican Mitt Romney and Democrat Barack Obama each spent on their campaigns in 2012; the total is more than their campaign expenditures combined. The only other potential candidate with anything close to her name recognition is Vice President Joe Biden, and it will be impossible for him to generate the puzzling enthusiasm that seems to follow Mrs. Clinton. And there does not appear to be anyone waiting in the wings to grab the spotlight from her, as Mr. Obama did in 2008.

So, while her various aides struggle to avoid any appearance of invincibility, let us all make the assumption that Mrs. Clinton will be the nominee, and work from there. What possible objections can anyone from the moderate to liberal political philosophy spectrum have to her nomination? Well, this writer asks: how much time do you have?

http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/04/17/hillary-a-disaster-in-the-making/

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Hillary: a Disaster in the Making (Original post)	PumpkinAle	Apr 2015	OP
Yes, indeed. Want a GOP POTUS? Run Hillary.	NYC_SKP	Apr 2015	#1
The article sums this up nicely....	PumpkinAle	Apr 2015	#2
So go find one, then...	Blue_Tires	Apr 2015	#13
we survived the self described moderate republican obama, we can survive hillary nt	msongs	Apr 2015	#3
More anti-Hillary out-of-reality crud. Yawn zzzzzzzzzzzzz	RBInMaine	Apr 2015	#8
Same crap said about Obama	workinclasszero	Apr 2015	#4
This post. A disaster in the making.	longship	Apr 2015	#5
I'm opposed to HRC, but what a moronic, steaming pile of lying dog shit.	cali	Apr 2015	#6
Thats pretty much my feelings exactly. I'm not crazy about HRC but I stopped reading...	phleshdef	Apr 2015	#10
So this is the latest crock of shit anti-HRC post/article	Persondem	Apr 2015	#7
I think this post has the value of a load of diaper shit.	RBInMaine	Apr 2015	#9
Fair and honest criticism is fine. This isn't that.	cheapdate	Apr 2015	#11
"the puzzling enthusiasm that seems to follow Mrs. Clinton." Nice. Blame the voters.	yellowcanine	Apr 2015	#12

Response to PumpkinAle (Original post)

Mon Apr 20, 2015, 01:03 PM

NYC_SKP (68,644 posts)

1. Yes, indeed. Want a GOP POTUS? Run Hillary.

Worst case scenario, TPTB get a corporatist, war_mongering, bankster-loving hedge-fund-trader boosting DINO instead of the GOP candidate.

I would like an FDR-style peoples' candidate, please.

Not what the 1% want us to have.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1277&pid=6155

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Response to NYC_SKP (Reply #1)

Mon Apr 20, 2015, 01:09 PM

PumpkinAle (1,210 posts)

2. The article sums this up nicely....

One can generally rely on the Republicans to nominate a worse candidate than the Democrats; one hesitates to say the Democrat is usually better, since we are not operating in a ‘good, better, best’ zone here; far beneath it, unfortunately. But this time around, there may simply be no ‘lesser of two evils’ choice to make. And the U.S. will provide yet another tragedy for the country, and the world.

http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/04/17/hillary-a-disaster-in-the-making/

I would love an FDR style candidate.

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Response to PumpkinAle (Reply #2)

Tue Apr 21, 2015, 02:29 PM

Blue_Tires (55,445 posts)

13. So go find one, then...

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Response to NYC_SKP (Reply #1)

Mon Apr 20, 2015, 01:26 PM

msongs (65,203 posts)

3. we survived the self described moderate republican obama, we can survive hillary nt

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Response to NYC_SKP (Reply #1)

Mon Apr 20, 2015, 08:16 PM

RBInMaine (13,570 posts)

8. More anti-Hillary out-of-reality crud. Yawn zzzzzzzzzzzzz

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Response to PumpkinAle (Original post)

Mon Apr 20, 2015, 02:01 PM

workinclasszero (28,270 posts)

4. Same crap said about Obama

But I'm sure the purists would have liked the last 8 years much better under McCain and Palin.

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Response to PumpkinAle (Original post)

Mon Apr 20, 2015, 02:08 PM

longship (40,416 posts)

5. This post. A disaster in the making.

No DURec for you.

Both Hillary supporters and Hillary haters have to tone things down.

For Christ sake, it's over 18 months until the election and none of us know who will get the nomination.

Calm down, everybody. Take an easy breath for once. This hyperventilation over Hillary Clinton, from both sides, makes DU utterly suck.

Fuck all of you.

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Response to PumpkinAle (Original post)

Mon Apr 20, 2015, 02:51 PM

cali (114,904 posts)

6. I'm opposed to HRC, but what a moronic, steaming pile of lying dog shit.

Start with this idiotic claim: she has a war chest rumored to hold $2.5 billion. BZZT. There have been rumors that she wants to raise close to that.

Counterpunch is often just shit.

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Response to cali (Reply #6)

Mon Apr 20, 2015, 09:36 PM

phleshdef (11,936 posts)

10. Thats pretty much my feelings exactly. I'm not crazy about HRC but I stopped reading...

...as soon as I saw the link was to Counterpunch. I often wonder if that site isn't some stealth Larouche outfit or something.

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Response to PumpkinAle (Original post)

Mon Apr 20, 2015, 04:28 PM

Persondem (1,923 posts)

7. So this is the latest crock of shit anti-HRC post/article

She moderately liberal to very progressive depending on the issue. Check her voting record and support from various political organizations on Project Vote Smart. She has been rated more liberal than Ted Kennedy.

This whole echo chamber HRC is the devil crap needs to end. Most all of it includes some crystal ball speculation, and this article is no exception ($2.5 billion on hand, really!?). If you have to make shit up; you've got nothing to say.

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Mon Apr 20, 2015, 08:17 PM

RBInMaine (13,570 posts)

9. I think this post has the value of a load of diaper shit.

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Response to PumpkinAle (Original post)

Tue Apr 21, 2015, 09:27 AM

cheapdate (3,811 posts)

11. Fair and honest criticism is fine. This isn't that.

The opening sentence establishes the theme that Hillary Clinton lacks both honesty and integrity, in the writer's opinion. I'm not interested in the rest of the article.

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Response to PumpkinAle (Original post)

Tue Apr 21, 2015, 10:24 AM

yellowcanine (35,482 posts)

12. "the puzzling enthusiasm that seems to follow Mrs. Clinton." Nice. Blame the voters.

How exactly will it work to nominate someone who doesn't generate enthusiasm?

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