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Recursion

(56,582 posts)
Thu Jun 4, 2015, 01:58 AM Jun 2015

George W. Bush outpolls Barack Obama for first time

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/06/poll-george-w-bush-popularity-obama-popularity-118576.html?ml=po

Americans now have a more favorable view of former President George W. Bush than they do of President Barack Obama.

It is the first time in more than a decade that Americans have expressed a favorable view of Bush, at least according to a new CNN/ORC poll released Wednesday.

Bush is seen in a favorable light by 52 percent of those surveyed, compared with 43 percent who still view the 43rd president unfavorably. Americans are split on Obama, with 49 percent responding favorably and unfavorably.

The last time Bush polled in positive territory was in early April 2005, close to three months into his second term.
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George W. Bush outpolls Barack Obama for first time (Original Post) Recursion Jun 2015 OP
Really....did they ask the question are you an American? sgtbenobo Jun 2015 #1
Contemporary short-term memories like this will be dismissed over a longer passage of time. Major Hogwash Jun 2015 #2
The short of it - just how fucked up this country is Cosmocat Jun 2015 #3
Nobody believes CNN's poll. They are trying to service Jeb's disastrous run. n/t FSogol Jun 2015 #4
Good insight. merrily Jun 2015 #6
They've put out some negative polls for Dems this week Proud Liberal Dem Jun 2015 #14
Exactly. Easy to see who CNN is pulling for. n/t FSogol Jun 2015 #15
Sorry, but I recall polls showing Bush 43 with approval ratings among all parties of under 40%. merrily Jun 2015 #5
He should be in Jail ctsnowman Jun 2015 #7
It gets better! yallerdawg Jun 2015 #8
No surprise here. Hitler might do ok with short term memory of most Americans! dmosh42 Jun 2015 #9
The memory span of gnats Rosa Luxemburg Jun 2015 #17
Could TPP and attacking dems who oppose it play a part?? hollowdweller Jun 2015 #10
The prime example of the problem with Democrats! One issue negates an entire record of amazing Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2015 #19
That's because the Clown Prince is far, far away from the reins of government. Aristus Jun 2015 #11
Half of Republicans still believe WMD WERE FOUND in IRAQ!... no, really! Bill USA Jun 2015 #12
What in the holy hell? Proud Liberal Dem Jun 2015 #13
Are they putting something in the water supply that makes people stupid? Rosa Luxemburg Jun 2015 #16
Wasn't this ALWAYS the goal? Shift the all the blame for W's atrocities to the black man? Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2015 #18
Amnesia realFedUp Jun 2015 #20
I heard on MSNBC today President Obama has an 89 percent approval rating Samantha Jun 2015 #21
This is funny alboe Jun 2015 #22
CNN Probably Wouldn't Rig A Poll. Puglsy Jun 2015 #23
 

sgtbenobo

(327 posts)
1. Really....did they ask the question are you an American?
Thu Jun 4, 2015, 02:35 AM
Jun 2015

Or, rather did they ask are yoo a hater of the guvment. CNN is so trustworthy.

Carry on,

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
2. Contemporary short-term memories like this will be dismissed over a longer passage of time.
Thu Jun 4, 2015, 05:58 AM
Jun 2015

It's almost as if those idiots who view Dubya favorably now actually think WMDs were found in Iraq, and that the nation's economy didn't crater in 2007/2008, or that it wasn't Dubya's fault that millions of Americans lost their jobs in 2008 at a pace of 750,000 per month for nearly 8 months.

As far as I am concerned, all this proves is that propaganda machines like Faux Snooze, Rush Limbaugh, and the rightwing echo chamber on the radio airwaves have been very effective for far too long in this country.
This isn't just another example of the "dumbing down of America", because some of us know what happened during Dubya's time in office.
Instead, this is an example of outright denial of the facts by some people in this country; people who obviously aren't able to use their thinking faculties, at all!!
How people like that even dress themselves is beyond me.

Cosmocat

(14,568 posts)
3. The short of it - just how fucked up this country is
Thu Jun 4, 2015, 07:21 AM
Jun 2015

but you are mostly spot on.

Yes, the right wing propoganda machine is even stronger today than ever. But, you have to have a lot of people who WANT to believe the bullshit when it has to be as thick as it has to be.

Bush II was a unmitigated disaster - fiscally, economically, and of course from a security standpoint and the jackasses taking the country into Iraq, a major disaster with the loss of lives of our troops and it being a money pit, but also further jacking an already jacked up middle east.

Barrack Obama has in fact been a pretty good president overall, and has dealt with the most oppositional congress in our history, one that has openly cheered and worked toward any negative outcome for the country of craven partisanship.

But, people have to WANT to believe what they spin about him.

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,429 posts)
14. They've put out some negative polls for Dems this week
Thu Jun 4, 2015, 09:20 PM
Jun 2015

Woke up to two days in a row of negative CNN polls for President Obama and Hillary Clinton. Agenda?

merrily

(45,251 posts)
5. Sorry, but I recall polls showing Bush 43 with approval ratings among all parties of under 40%.
Thu Jun 4, 2015, 08:05 AM
Jun 2015

Even Joe Scarborough said this morning, in this incredibly partisan time, anyone who is at 49% after 7 years in office, should pat himself on the back.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
8. It gets better!
Thu Jun 4, 2015, 09:54 AM
Jun 2015

From page 10 of poll, favorable/unfavorable:

The Republican Party - 41% favorable, 49% unfavorable.

The Democratic Party - 47% favorable, 45% unfavorable!

Hillary's spouse - 64% favorable, 33% unfavorable!!!





 

hollowdweller

(4,229 posts)
10. Could TPP and attacking dems who oppose it play a part??
Thu Jun 4, 2015, 11:43 AM
Jun 2015

Obama should be seen in the news doing some stuff for middle America again. Or trying
 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
19. The prime example of the problem with Democrats! One issue negates an entire record of amazing
Sat Jun 6, 2015, 07:49 PM
Jun 2015

record of successes and accomplishments.

We call it The Black Tax!

Aristus

(66,438 posts)
11. That's because the Clown Prince is far, far away from the reins of government.
Thu Jun 4, 2015, 12:18 PM
Jun 2015
That polls very high with me.

Bill USA

(6,436 posts)
12. Half of Republicans still believe WMD WERE FOUND in IRAQ!... no, really!
Thu Jun 4, 2015, 05:02 PM
Jun 2015
http://www.politico.com/story/2015/01/poll-republicans-wmds-iraq-114016.html

Republicans and Fox News viewers are more likely to hold false beliefs about the president and the war in Iraq, according to a new poll.

In a Public Mind poll from Fairleigh Dickinson University released Wednesday, more than half of Republicans — 51 percent — and half of those who watch Fox News — 52 percent — say that they believe it to be “definitely true” or “probably true” that American forces found an active weapons of mass destruction program in Iraq.

Thirty-two percent of Democrats, 46 percent of independents, 41 percent of people who reported to watch CNN and 14 percent of MSNBC viewers answered similarly.

Overall, 42 percent still believe that troops discovered WMDs, a misleading factor in the decision to invade Iraq in 2003. It was later found that Iraq did have individual stockpiles of chemical weapons, but there was no active WMD program in the country.



Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/01/poll-republicans-wmds-iraq-114016.html#ixzz3c85OoBFr

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,429 posts)
13. What in the holy hell?
Thu Jun 4, 2015, 09:17 PM
Jun 2015


CNN trying to pump up Jeb- trying to prove that the 2016 Election is ripe for another Bush?
 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
18. Wasn't this ALWAYS the goal? Shift the all the blame for W's atrocities to the black man?
Sat Jun 6, 2015, 07:47 PM
Jun 2015

Finally succeeded.

realFedUp

(25,053 posts)
20. Amnesia
Sat Jun 6, 2015, 10:05 PM
Jun 2015

Maybe if people reviewed the damage W did during his terms they might come to different conclusions.

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
21. I heard on MSNBC today President Obama has an 89 percent approval rating
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 12:55 AM
Jun 2015

It was mentioned during the coverage of Beau Biden's passing. I was surprised. That seems pretty high to me, but Bush* polling higher than President Obama seems impossible. That poll must have been rigged for Jeb's benefit.

Sam

 

Puglsy

(23 posts)
23. CNN Probably Wouldn't Rig A Poll.
Sun Jun 7, 2015, 10:08 AM
Jun 2015

If they got caught that would make them look bad and with all the journalists that have gotten into trouble in the last decade for either telling false stories or not physically being in a locale but they write they were I really doubt CNN would take a chance to rig a poll. The more logical conclusion would be that Bush is just seen in a more favorable light now that so many years have passed. Obamas favorability numbers will probably rise 6 years after hes out of office. Its the name of the game in politics and isn't anything new and happens to a lot of ex presidents regardless of the party. Since Bush is no longer in office I really don't care.

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