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MyUncle

(924 posts)
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 09:06 PM Jun 2012

Obama Wins Big, Walker Wins Big, what does it mean?

The results are a gigantic statistical validation of 2 things - Obama Wins, Walker Wins.

This is reality, WI said we are Democrats in their Obama polling, they said they are against the agenda of public sector unions in their vote.

This is not close.

It is time for assessment.

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Obama Wins Big, Walker Wins Big, what does it mean? (Original Post) MyUncle Jun 2012 OP
Yes, we should all become Republicans... rfranklin Jun 2012 #1
it means that overall we're a sensible nation with pockets of stupity leftyohiolib Jun 2012 #2
Wisconsin is NOT STUPID. MyUncle Jun 2012 #6
reality=voting a republican BACK in is a stupid act done by stupid people leftyohiolib Jun 2012 #13
Unions are problematic because opinion isn't homogenous. TheWraith Jun 2012 #3
That makes sense. I can't help but wonder if that's the dynamic that's playing out in MA? Tarheel_Dem Jun 2012 #16
I give a flying "f" how Obama "win's" Peregrine Took Jun 2012 #4
and what makes you think Obama would have made a difference? When Feingold lost, that said a lot still_one Jun 2012 #8
He wouln't have made a crap's bit of difference. Peregrine Took Jun 2012 #11
Bullshit Splinter Cell Jun 2012 #14
Does, Massachusetts ring a bell? Happydayz Jun 2012 #15
It says that people are idiots, and they believe the garbage that all the problems are due to unions still_one Jun 2012 #5
It's not unusual for people to split their votes. Now we know why Romney didn't show up to WI. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2012 #7
Ummm, the other Presidential Candidate did not show up in WI MyUncle Jun 2012 #10
Yes, I'm well aware of that and I don't need to be lectured to. Thanks but no, thanks! Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2012 #12
The other presidential candidate is the President Hippo_Tron Jun 2012 #18
Both were running on issues of trying to improve the economy. HereSince1628 Jun 2012 #9
It means that Mitt Romney hasn't spent much money in Wisconsin, whereas Walker has spent tons Hippo_Tron Jun 2012 #17
 

rfranklin

(13,200 posts)
1. Yes, we should all become Republicans...
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 09:07 PM
Jun 2012

and destroy the last vestiges of unionism in the USA.

MyUncle

(924 posts)
6. Wisconsin is NOT STUPID.
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 09:09 PM
Jun 2012

I'm sure you are mad, but to call WI stupid, is stupid. This is not Texas or Oklahoma, we have to face reality.

 

leftyohiolib

(5,917 posts)
13. reality=voting a republican BACK in is a stupid act done by stupid people
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 09:23 PM
Jun 2012

i'm not mad. i am fed up

TheWraith

(24,331 posts)
3. Unions are problematic because opinion isn't homogenous.
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 09:09 PM
Jun 2012

I've heard a Democrat so far left they're practically a communist complain about public union overreach, and I heard a Republican in the gun shop griping about how Cuomo should treat the unions better.

Most particularly, though, I'm guessing the problem is middle of the roaders who generally lean Democratic, support Obama, but saw the recall as Dems helping out a special interest.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,443 posts)
16. That makes sense. I can't help but wonder if that's the dynamic that's playing out in MA?
Wed Jun 6, 2012, 12:30 AM
Jun 2012

The last poll I saw had the president up +20 over Romney, but Warren continues to struggle against Brown? I mean, it makes absolutely no sense to me otherwise. The "middle of the roaders" are the issue here.

I heard a caller on NPR this morning "claim" he was a union Democrat who supports the president, but did not support the recall. Swore he wouldn't vote for Walker, but couldn't vote for Barrett either. He thought the recall was an attempt to overthrow the will of the people of WI. I'm not really sure how to feel about that.

still_one

(96,812 posts)
8. and what makes you think Obama would have made a difference? When Feingold lost, that said a lot
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 09:10 PM
Jun 2012

Splinter Cell

(703 posts)
14. Bullshit
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 09:37 PM
Jun 2012

Wis. had the oppurtunity to make a change and they failed to show the sense to do it. Period. The buck stops there.

Happydayz

(112 posts)
15. Does, Massachusetts ring a bell?
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 10:21 PM
Jun 2012

I'm glad Obama didn't go to WI, because they would've blamed him for Walker's win. Remember what happened in Massachusetts, when Obama campaigned for Elizabeth Warren? He was blamed for her loss there. You can't have it both ways.

still_one

(96,812 posts)
5. It says that people are idiots, and they believe the garbage that all the problems are due to unions
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 09:09 PM
Jun 2012

the truth is most of our financial problems is due the trillions we spent on wars based on lies

 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
7. It's not unusual for people to split their votes. Now we know why Romney didn't show up to WI.
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 09:10 PM
Jun 2012

MyUncle

(924 posts)
10. Ummm, the other Presidential Candidate did not show up in WI
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 09:13 PM
Jun 2012

as well.

Please, reality check. Look at what happened and adjust.

 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
12. Yes, I'm well aware of that and I don't need to be lectured to. Thanks but no, thanks!
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 09:21 PM
Jun 2012

Let's regroup for November.

Hippo_Tron

(25,453 posts)
18. The other presidential candidate is the President
Wed Jun 6, 2012, 06:30 PM
Jun 2012

There's much less of a need to show up when you have universal effective name recognition.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
9. Both were running on issues of trying to improve the economy.
Tue Jun 5, 2012, 09:11 PM
Jun 2012

IMO, the reason Obama didn't come to Wisconsin is probably that he couldn't find a way to argue Win for the recall and a Win for himself.

Hippo_Tron

(25,453 posts)
17. It means that Mitt Romney hasn't spent much money in Wisconsin, whereas Walker has spent tons
Wed Jun 6, 2012, 06:22 PM
Jun 2012

It's the same reason Russ Feingold outperformed John Kerry in 2004. Bush seriously contested the state, whereas Russ was running against a second tier opponent.

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