2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumObama Wins Big, Walker Wins Big, what does it mean?
The results are a gigantic statistical validation of 2 things - Obama Wins, Walker Wins.
This is reality, WI said we are Democrats in their Obama polling, they said they are against the agenda of public sector unions in their vote.
This is not close.
It is time for assessment.
rfranklin
(13,200 posts)and destroy the last vestiges of unionism in the USA.
leftyohiolib
(5,917 posts)MyUncle
(924 posts)I'm sure you are mad, but to call WI stupid, is stupid. This is not Texas or Oklahoma, we have to face reality.
leftyohiolib
(5,917 posts)i'm not mad. i am fed up
TheWraith
(24,331 posts)I've heard a Democrat so far left they're practically a communist complain about public union overreach, and I heard a Republican in the gun shop griping about how Cuomo should treat the unions better.
Most particularly, though, I'm guessing the problem is middle of the roaders who generally lean Democratic, support Obama, but saw the recall as Dems helping out a special interest.
Tarheel_Dem
(31,443 posts)The last poll I saw had the president up +20 over Romney, but Warren continues to struggle against Brown? I mean, it makes absolutely no sense to me otherwise. The "middle of the roaders" are the issue here.
I heard a caller on NPR this morning "claim" he was a union Democrat who supports the president, but did not support the recall. Swore he wouldn't vote for Walker, but couldn't vote for Barrett either. He thought the recall was an attempt to overthrow the will of the people of WI. I'm not really sure how to feel about that.
Peregrine Took
(7,512 posts)He was nowhere when Wis needed him.
still_one
(96,812 posts)Peregrine Took
(7,512 posts)He stands for nothing but himself.
Splinter Cell
(703 posts)Wis. had the oppurtunity to make a change and they failed to show the sense to do it. Period. The buck stops there.
Happydayz
(112 posts)I'm glad Obama didn't go to WI, because they would've blamed him for Walker's win. Remember what happened in Massachusetts, when Obama campaigned for Elizabeth Warren? He was blamed for her loss there. You can't have it both ways.
still_one
(96,812 posts)the truth is most of our financial problems is due the trillions we spent on wars based on lies
Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)MyUncle
(924 posts)as well.
Please, reality check. Look at what happened and adjust.
Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)Let's regroup for November.
Hippo_Tron
(25,453 posts)There's much less of a need to show up when you have universal effective name recognition.
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)IMO, the reason Obama didn't come to Wisconsin is probably that he couldn't find a way to argue Win for the recall and a Win for himself.
Hippo_Tron
(25,453 posts)It's the same reason Russ Feingold outperformed John Kerry in 2004. Bush seriously contested the state, whereas Russ was running against a second tier opponent.