Since Obama didn't show up for unions in WI, will they show up for him in November?

[Township75]

It's a fair question. I am not implying that Obama should or should not have come to WI. I am just curious given that he did not, will unions still do the grassroots work for him in WI and vote for him, or will they stay home.

Thoughts?

I'm inclined to believe they will still do the work and come out and vote....but I'm not in WI.

[Harmony Blue]

1. Whatever is left of them

It is bad enough the right is hitting them with a freight train, but to be sucker punched at the same time from the left sucks lol.

[L. Coyote]

19. Obama 1,677,211 vs. Walker 1,334,450 = SLAM DUNK

Whose got voters in Wisconsin?? BARACK does!!
Obama 1,677,211
Walker 1,334,450
Obama 2080 = 1,677,211
Walker 2010 = 1,128,941
Barrett 2012 = 1,162,785
Walker 2012 = 1,334,450
Barrett 2010 = 1,004,303
McCain 2008 = 1,262,393

[still_one]

2. If they want to cut off their nose to spite their face, then that is what they would do /nt

[frylock]

9. at what point is it the democratic leadership that is cutting off it's nose?

[Jackpine Radical]

3. If the unions have any brains at all, they'll support Obama & then

devote the next 20 years to rebuilding themselves as effective agents for the workers. ALL the workers.

Like many institutions, I think the unions drifted far away from the principles they once represented.

[1StrongBlackMan]

4. Well ...

The unions DID say they did not need or want President Obama to campaign in Wisconsin ... Barrett said he did not need or want President Obama to campaign in Wisconsin ... The Wisconsin Democratic Party said they did not need or want President Obama to campaign in Wisconsin ...

So my guess is, YES the unions and a vast majority of its membership will show up for President Obama in the fall.

But there WILL be plenty of democrats ... many right here at DU ... who will, at every opportunity, push this gop-inspired, if not, benefitting, unions will stay home narrative.

[scheming daemons]

5. why are you pushing a rw meme on DU?

[emulatorloo]

6. To be divisive

[Township75]

8. I'm not.

I would like to know from anyone on the ground in WI if this has potential to occur. If not, then great. If so, I would hope it is identified and people put efforts into repairing the relationship before November. That is why I asked.

[totodeinhere]

11. The OP asks a legitimate question. I thought that this forum existed to discuss

political questions like this.

[Thrill]

7. Look at the Election Results

This has nothing to do with Obama.

[Proud Liberal Dem]

10. Right

the exit polling shows President Obama comfortably ahead of Mitt Romney- and that is even taking into account LOW TURNOUT among younger voters.

[totodeinhere]

12. I wouldn't rely on the exit polls too much.

They also showed a dead heat in the recall election. The exit polls were off by several points.

[MjolnirTime]

13. If they want to continue their existence, they will.

[Tarheel_Dem]

14. Who knows? But Pres. Obama went there in 2010 and stood beside Barrett & Feingold and....

he asked Wisconsonites not to give back the keys. They didn't listen, and they got burned. Unions can sit this one out if they choose, but if you think they lost big last night, you haven't seen anything yet. Personally, I think they should redouble their efforts for the fall.

Oh, and stop disseminating rightwing memes. We've got enough problems without the left adopting GOP talking points.

[Jamaal510]

15. If the unions know what's good for them, they'll go ahead

and back the president so Mitt Robme won't get a chance to do any union-busting at a national level. Both Obama and Mitt Robme have stark positions regarding union rights. And frankly, Obama did the right thing by staying out of the recall efforts. It would've only been something else for the GOPhers to attack him on, since Barrett lost. Besides, Mitt Robme never made an appearance at the recall either.

[WCGreen]

16. Well, good for you....

The president didn't initiate the recall and he had no reason to be involved. This was a local situation brought about by grass roots leadership. For the president, it was a lose lose situation.

It wasn't his fight, period.

[RBInMaine]

17. Oh ENOUGH of this. It would not have changed anything and it was a STATE matter. So just ENOUGH!

[L. Coyote]

18. Why are you posting a right wing TP memo on DU?

For the same reason GW didn't go to CA, cuz he was President at the time and has official relationships with governors. D'oh, but they leave that out of the TPM.

[Iceberg Louie]

20. I don't see this impacting 2012 so much, but the real problem is...

...how will this affect 2016? The CON-servatives have been licking their fangs in anticipation of this victory since the recall process began. According to their logic, Walker now has a mandate, and is considered bulletproof. I have stated from the outset that the GOP already called 2012 a loss, and that Rmoney is their expendable John Kerry candidate. They've been looking at 2016 for a couple years now, and are looking at this as Walker's litmus test for a possible nomination then.

The general logic seems to hold that the Repugs run on the hard-sell of a "return to the good ol' days" fantasy. It seems, though, that the romanticizing of the 1950's can be more attributed to the large chunk of union members who are otherwise inexplicably staunch Republican't. That era was marked by an anomalous harmony of a center-right presidency and the zenith of ideal unionized labor conditions. Of course, both of these areas have deteriorated in the years since, perfectly in line with the actualization of the true CON-servative agenda. It would stand to reason, then, that the rabid right-wing fantasy of today is a return to 19th Century Victorian America, where women and minorities had few rights, oppressive evangelical fanaticism ran rampant, and concessions for labor equity were non existent.

At the end of the day, it's the $ that made it's way to the TV sets in Plainfield and Rhinelander.

[Iggo]

21. Yes.