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Thu Aug 20, 2015, 06:48 PM

colin powel used personal e-mail account

Former Secretary of State Colin Powell says he doesn’t have any emails to turn over to the State Department.

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Appearing on ABC’s “This Week” Sunday, Powell responded to revelations that he used a personal email account, rather than a government one, when he was in charge of the State Department. Questions about his email use arose last week when it was disclosed that former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton used a personal email account during her tenure.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/03/colin-powell-hillary-clinton-email-state-department-115870.html#ixzz3jOl7SV5Z

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DesertFlower Aug 2015 OP
JoePhilly Aug 2015 #1
cali Aug 2015 #4
JoePhilly Aug 2015 #8
yeoman6987 Aug 2015 #51
HappyPlace Aug 2015 #2
BooScout Aug 2015 #10
nadinbrzezinski Aug 2015 #26
jwirr Aug 2015 #30
cherokeeprogressive Aug 2015 #36
HappyPlace Aug 2015 #56
cherokeeprogressive Aug 2015 #57
HereSince1628 Aug 2015 #50
HappyPlace Aug 2015 #52
uponit7771 Aug 2015 #55
tularetom Aug 2015 #3
HassleCat Aug 2015 #5
retrowire Aug 2015 #6
BooScout Aug 2015 #12
retrowire Aug 2015 #13
frylock Aug 2015 #17
retrowire Aug 2015 #23
cherokeeprogressive Aug 2015 #38
leftofcool Aug 2015 #20
KoKo Aug 2015 #31
BooScout Aug 2015 #34
KoKo Aug 2015 #42
cherokeeprogressive Aug 2015 #41
GitRDun Aug 2015 #27
BooScout Aug 2015 #39
GitRDun Aug 2015 #40
leftofcool Aug 2015 #47
GitRDun Aug 2015 #48
still_one Aug 2015 #7
JoePhilly Aug 2015 #11
leftofcool Aug 2015 #21
ericson00 Aug 2015 #22
mcar Aug 2015 #24
Purveyor Aug 2015 #29
KoKo Aug 2015 #33
Reter Aug 2015 #35
Thor_MN Aug 2015 #9
Bjorn Against Aug 2015 #14
ibegurpard Aug 2015 #15
frylock Aug 2015 #16
Motown_Johnny Aug 2015 #18
Autumn Aug 2015 #19
kacekwl Aug 2015 #25
Autumn Aug 2015 #28
Bonobo Aug 2015 #32
1000words Aug 2015 #37
delrem Aug 2015 #44
DesertFlower Aug 2015 #45
1000words Aug 2015 #46
delrem Aug 2015 #43
TheKentuckian Aug 2015 #49
DesertFlower Aug 2015 #53
TheKentuckian Aug 2015 #58
Cha Aug 2015 #54
Vinca Aug 2015 #59

Response to DesertFlower (Original post)

Thu Aug 20, 2015, 06:52 PM

1. Yea butt ..

... he has a Republican penis, so it's ok.

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Response to JoePhilly (Reply #1)

Thu Aug 20, 2015, 06:55 PM

4. not even a little ok. And the "he/she did it too" defense is just pathetix

 

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Response to cali (Reply #4)

Thu Aug 20, 2015, 07:02 PM

8. Clearly it was ok.

No info was leaked by Powell and no one cares.

No info was leaked by Clinton, and it a BFD.

It's another scandal in which nothing actually happened.

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Response to JoePhilly (Reply #1)

Fri Aug 21, 2015, 12:13 PM

51. If he were running for president it wouldn't be ok

 

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Response to DesertFlower (Original post)

Thu Aug 20, 2015, 06:53 PM

2. Was it hosted on a personal server in his private home?

 

That detail matters.

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Response to HappyPlace (Reply #2)

Thu Aug 20, 2015, 07:03 PM

10. Really?

Nearly 90 White House staffers in the Bush administration used private emails supplied by the RNC....of course the press seldom mentions that little fact these days.

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Response to BooScout (Reply #10)

Thu Aug 20, 2015, 09:29 PM

26. and it was and still is a big issue

 

and here it was not small either.

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Response to BooScout (Reply #10)

Thu Aug 20, 2015, 09:57 PM

30. And that little fact is not a good example as God only knows what they

did with their private email accounts. No one has even looked into it have they?

The press is not going to attack their handlers.

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Response to BooScout (Reply #10)

Thu Aug 20, 2015, 10:56 PM

36. Were they hosted on personal servers in their private homes?

 

Or did you simply choose to ignore that question?

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Response to cherokeeprogressive (Reply #36)

Fri Aug 21, 2015, 09:37 PM

56. It doesn't matter because George Bush white house staffers did it too!

 

So there. They're just like little secretaries of state and if they did it why are we picking on Hillary, huh?

I like this graphic by the way, it's a bit of fun in the candidate.



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Response to HappyPlace (Reply #56)

Fri Aug 21, 2015, 11:48 PM

57. Tell you what... some of the worst whoopin's I got as a child were when I pointed at my Sister

 

and said "She did it too!".

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Response to HappyPlace (Reply #2)

Fri Aug 21, 2015, 09:11 AM

50. I'm no happier with Powell placing government communications in "The Cloud"

I can't speak for others, but I'm not sure having a personal server in a garage or upstairs bathroom would be worse than putting government communications onto borrowed server capacity in an unknown country.

Might any special problems exist if that cloud space was in a GRU server farm in Moscow, or Pyongyang?




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Response to HereSince1628 (Reply #50)

Fri Aug 21, 2015, 01:00 PM

52. Definitely not good, either one.

 

The difference is that having your own server on your own private property offers an opportunity to completely destroy it, not something that can be done in the cloud.

From a public's right to know perspective, the cloud is preferred.

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Response to HappyPlace (Reply #2)

Fri Aug 21, 2015, 08:41 PM

55. No it doesn't

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Response to DesertFlower (Original post)

Thu Aug 20, 2015, 06:54 PM

3. When he runs for president, I'm sure it will be brought up

Possibly he will have a better story than Hillary.

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Response to DesertFlower (Original post)

Thu Aug 20, 2015, 06:56 PM

5. Who cares?

 

Since he went on TV and lied out his butt about WMD, I have tried to ignore him.

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Response to DesertFlower (Original post)

Thu Aug 20, 2015, 06:57 PM

6. There is a difference between a private account and a private server n/t

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Response to retrowire (Reply #6)

Thu Aug 20, 2015, 07:05 PM

12. Condi Rice had a private server....

...of course she says she rarely used it. We all trust her now don't we.

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Response to BooScout (Reply #12)

Thu Aug 20, 2015, 07:09 PM

13. I've no opinion on Condoleeza. n/t

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Response to BooScout (Reply #12)

Thu Aug 20, 2015, 07:31 PM

17. Then don't vote for her.

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Response to frylock (Reply #17)

Thu Aug 20, 2015, 08:47 PM

23. ...? Ok? n/t

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Response to retrowire (Reply #6)

Thu Aug 20, 2015, 08:38 PM

20. Private servers are more secure.

Note that Hillary's emails did not go out to wikileaks. My husband uses a private server for some government business through his company and there is no way it can be hacked. Mine on the other hand is not private and hackers try to get to me on a weekly basis.

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Response to leftofcool (Reply #20)

Thu Aug 20, 2015, 10:11 PM

31. Her e-mails on Private Server were discovered by Hackers..

A Hacker named "Guccifer" released e-mails discussing Libya written by Sid Blumenthal to Hillary a couple of years ago. The Bengazi Committee investigated and that's how the Private Server was discovered.

The e-mails were printed in News Media at the time. It was a big deal.. So, if her server was hacked by one hacker then it was vulnerable to other hackers. That's why the E-Mail issue hasn't died.

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Response to KoKo (Reply #31)

Thu Aug 20, 2015, 10:53 PM

34. soooo BENGHAZI is a big deal then?

Watch FAUX news much?

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Response to BooScout (Reply #34)

Thu Aug 20, 2015, 11:18 PM

42. No...Sid Blumenthal's Hacked E-Mail correspondence was a Big Deal

Since Obama had banned Hillary from allowing Sid to serve in the State Department because of his past behavior.

For those of us who followed Sid through his adventures years before...it WAS a big deal and that Hillary had a Private Server in her home Chappaqua for her E-Mail correspondence which Sid communicated with her on. The hacking was what led to Hillary's Private Server being discovered.

pffft on Benghazi. I was always more concerned that Libya was invaded on her watch. If Libya hadn't been invaded there wouldn't have been a Benghazi but the Repub/NeoCon War Machine wanted it. So...since Libya is a mess they attack Hillary blaming Benghazi on her to cover their own mistakes in promoting policies that led to the invasion.

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Response to leftofcool (Reply #20)

Thu Aug 20, 2015, 11:07 PM

41. "no way it can be hacked"

 

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Response to retrowire (Reply #6)

Thu Aug 20, 2015, 09:33 PM

27. private accounts are stored on servers outside of govt control

gmail, yahoo, all have servers that store our emails.

IMO private email accounts are less secure.

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Response to GitRDun (Reply #27)

Thu Aug 20, 2015, 11:04 PM

39. tell that to wiki leaks

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Response to BooScout (Reply #39)

Thu Aug 20, 2015, 11:06 PM

40. Huh?

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Response to GitRDun (Reply #27)

Fri Aug 21, 2015, 01:40 AM

47. No.

Private servers do not use gmail, yahoo or any other free email service.

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Response to leftofcool (Reply #47)

Fri Aug 21, 2015, 05:44 AM

48. ugh, not what I said

I said using private account (gmail, yahoo) is less secure because servers re NOT private.

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Response to DesertFlower (Original post)

Thu Aug 20, 2015, 06:59 PM

7. So did Jeb Bush, Jindal, Perry, and a lot of other politicians for personal use. Doesn't make it

right, which is why in 2014 and 2015 they have setup specific policies

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Response to still_one (Reply #7)

Thu Aug 20, 2015, 07:04 PM

11. What makes it wrong ...

... is Hillary did it.

No info lost. None leaked. Nothing happened.

But Hillary "did it" so it must be bad.

Shame Snowden didn't get it all and leak it.

Folks would want a parade in his honor.

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Response to JoePhilly (Reply #11)

Thu Aug 20, 2015, 08:38 PM

21. + one gadzillion

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Response to leftofcool (Reply #21)

Thu Aug 20, 2015, 08:44 PM

22. make that +one gadzillion times two

 

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Response to JoePhilly (Reply #11)

Thu Aug 20, 2015, 09:02 PM

24. How many times can I rec this?

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Response to JoePhilly (Reply #11)

Thu Aug 20, 2015, 09:52 PM

29. You don't know if info was lost, you don't know if info was leaked nor do you know that Snowden

 

didn't in fact 'get it all'.

IF it was captured by Snowden/foreign intel, why would they hurry to release it when it could most certainly come in handy should she, in the unlikely event, become POTUS.

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Response to still_one (Reply #7)

Thu Aug 20, 2015, 10:20 PM

33. I have two personal E-Mail Accounts. But, I don't have a server in my home

run by a Private Company. And, I'm not the SOS who has no business doing Personal State Department Business (as a Government Employee) stored on a server in her home in Chappaqua NY and run by a Private Company that (as far as we know) was not cleared for security by the Government that pays her.

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Response to still_one (Reply #7)

Thu Aug 20, 2015, 10:54 PM

35. None of those three had access to anything nearly as classified as Clinton did

 

SoS's know all the juicy things that governors don't.

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Response to DesertFlower (Original post)

Thu Aug 20, 2015, 07:02 PM

9. So he claims he has no clue where they are.

 

He doesn't know if his account was secure or not and making the same claim, that there was no secure info in the emails, if he had any fucking clue where they were. Given his WMD puppet show performance, I'm not surprised.

Seems if things were not biased, we should spend a couple million dollars finding out what he was doing.

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Response to DesertFlower (Original post)

Thu Aug 20, 2015, 07:23 PM

14. Colin Powell was also a member of the most corrupt administration in history

I think we may want to hold people to a bit higher standard than what we saw from the Bush Administration.

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Response to DesertFlower (Original post)

Thu Aug 20, 2015, 07:24 PM

15. Tell it to the FBI

Not me.

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Response to DesertFlower (Original post)

Thu Aug 20, 2015, 07:29 PM

16. It's settled. He won't get my vote for president.

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Response to DesertFlower (Original post)

Thu Aug 20, 2015, 08:31 PM

18. Did he delete half of the server without any oversight?

 

If not, then these things are not really comparable....are they?


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Response to DesertFlower (Original post)

Thu Aug 20, 2015, 08:33 PM

19. He's not running for president.

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Response to Autumn (Reply #19)

Thu Aug 20, 2015, 09:25 PM

25. So it's OK as long as you

don't run for president ?

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Response to kacekwl (Reply #25)

Thu Aug 20, 2015, 09:36 PM

28. He's a republican and what he does is irrelevant to me in terms of my vote.

Hillary is running for the nomination in the Democratic party what she does matters to me.

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Response to DesertFlower (Original post)

Thu Aug 20, 2015, 10:15 PM

32. Having also shown horrible judgment wrt that and the Iraq War in the same way as Hillary at least

he has the good sense to know his political boat has way too many holes in it.

The sinking HSS Hillary will take down Dem hopes for 4 or 8 years I am afraid.

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Response to 1000words (Reply #37)

Thu Aug 20, 2015, 11:38 PM

44. It appears that it's very easy to sell the

idea that if Republicans do it, then it's justified, to a fairly large and homogeneous faction on DU.

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Response to 1000words (Reply #37)

Thu Aug 20, 2015, 11:40 PM

45. i'm not trying to defend her. i'm

supporting bernie. just trying to be fair. didn't realize till tonight that hillary had the e-mail server in her home. i think she has some explaining to do.

i don't want a republican to be president. if hillary is the nominee she'll get my vote.

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Response to DesertFlower (Original post)

Thu Aug 20, 2015, 11:33 PM

43. I too take my lead from Republicans.

Esp. honest brokers like condoleezza rice "But we don't want the smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud." and Colin Powell, "Saddam Hussein could have produced 25,000 liters (of anthrax)".
So naturally I also take my lead from Hillary Clinton "We came. We saw. He died. (hahaha)".

Because these are all so similar, they are true leaders, the creme de la creme.

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Response to DesertFlower (Original post)

Fri Aug 21, 2015, 05:45 AM

49. Are you trying to argue it is best practice for officials to act as their own information gatekeeper

Where the fuck was all the opposition to transparency and oversight for officials when we not that long ago tightened up all these shifty ass practices?

Is Colin Powell supposed to be some model of good governance and accountability to the public?

What type or banana republic are we aspiring to here?

I can't help it is also the same friends and fans of the dragnet surveillance state for us but literally demanding lack of accountability and oversight for supposed to be public servants either.

Sorry, I oppose your anti democratic paradigm. Why the fuck would folks demand to be subjects? That is what such an arrangement works out to mean.
To not even be able to admit that maybe this wasn't the best idea ever is illustrative of a car with no breaks, the wagons are on full auto circle) and drivers nor passengers have much in the way of give a damn about the right thing.

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Response to TheKentuckian (Reply #49)

Fri Aug 21, 2015, 07:35 PM

53. i wasn't trying to argue anything. i was just

trying to be fair to hillary.

how dare you say i'm anti democratic. i've been a democrat my entire life. i'm 74 years old.

there's no reason to get nasty and use foul language.

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Response to DesertFlower (Reply #53)

Sun Aug 23, 2015, 11:54 AM

58. If you don't see how the push for zero oversight of officials while tolerating and even

encouraging and supporting dragnet surveillance doesn't short circuit any real self governance.

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Response to DesertFlower (Original post)

Fri Aug 21, 2015, 07:41 PM

54. gopropaganda machine cares nothing about him. It's Hillary they want to bring down with EGhazi!

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Response to DesertFlower (Original post)

Sun Aug 23, 2015, 12:18 PM

59. Well . . . we know how poor Colin Powell's judgement was so maybe . . .

it's not in Hillary's best interest to say "but he did it, too."

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