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Former Secretary of State Colin Powell says he doesnt have any emails to turn over to the State Department.
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Appearing on ABCs This Week Sunday, Powell responded to revelations that he used a personal email account, rather than a government one, when he was in charge of the State Department. Questions about his email use arose last week when it was disclosed that former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton used a personal email account during her tenure.
Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/03/colin-powell-hillary-clinton-email-state-department-115870.html#ixzz3jOl7SV5Z
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)... he has a Republican penis, so it's ok.
cali
(114,904 posts)JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)No info was leaked by Powell and no one cares.
No info was leaked by Clinton, and it a BFD.
It's another scandal in which nothing actually happened.
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)HappyPlace
(568 posts)That detail matters.
BooScout
(10,406 posts)Nearly 90 White House staffers in the Bush administration used private emails supplied by the RNC....of course the press seldom mentions that little fact these days.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)and here it was not small either.
jwirr
(39,215 posts)did with their private email accounts. No one has even looked into it have they?
The press is not going to attack their handlers.
cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)Or did you simply choose to ignore that question?
HappyPlace
(568 posts)So there. They're just like little secretaries of state and if they did it why are we picking on Hillary, huh?
I like this graphic by the way, it's a bit of fun in the candidate.
cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)and said "She did it too!".
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)I can't speak for others, but I'm not sure having a personal server in a garage or upstairs bathroom would be worse than putting government communications onto borrowed server capacity in an unknown country.
Might any special problems exist if that cloud space was in a GRU server farm in Moscow, or Pyongyang?
HappyPlace
(568 posts)The difference is that having your own server on your own private property offers an opportunity to completely destroy it, not something that can be done in the cloud.
From a public's right to know perspective, the cloud is preferred.
uponit7771
(90,336 posts)tularetom
(23,664 posts)Possibly he will have a better story than Hillary.
HassleCat
(6,409 posts)Since he went on TV and lied out his butt about WMD, I have tried to ignore him.
retrowire
(10,345 posts)BooScout
(10,406 posts)...of course she says she rarely used it. We all trust her now don't we.
retrowire
(10,345 posts)frylock
(34,825 posts)retrowire
(10,345 posts)cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)leftofcool
(19,460 posts)Note that Hillary's emails did not go out to wikileaks. My husband uses a private server for some government business through his company and there is no way it can be hacked. Mine on the other hand is not private and hackers try to get to me on a weekly basis.
KoKo
(84,711 posts)A Hacker named "Guccifer" released e-mails discussing Libya written by Sid Blumenthal to Hillary a couple of years ago. The Bengazi Committee investigated and that's how the Private Server was discovered.
The e-mails were printed in News Media at the time. It was a big deal.. So, if her server was hacked by one hacker then it was vulnerable to other hackers. That's why the E-Mail issue hasn't died.
BooScout
(10,406 posts)Watch FAUX news much?
KoKo
(84,711 posts)Since Obama had banned Hillary from allowing Sid to serve in the State Department because of his past behavior.
For those of us who followed Sid through his adventures years before...it WAS a big deal and that Hillary had a Private Server in her home Chappaqua for her E-Mail correspondence which Sid communicated with her on. The hacking was what led to Hillary's Private Server being discovered.
pffft on Benghazi. I was always more concerned that Libya was invaded on her watch. If Libya hadn't been invaded there wouldn't have been a Benghazi but the Repub/NeoCon War Machine wanted it. So...since Libya is a mess they attack Hillary blaming Benghazi on her to cover their own mistakes in promoting policies that led to the invasion.
cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)GitRDun
(1,846 posts)gmail, yahoo, all have servers that store our emails.
IMO private email accounts are less secure.
BooScout
(10,406 posts)Private servers do not use gmail, yahoo or any other free email service.
GitRDun
(1,846 posts)I said using private account (gmail, yahoo) is less secure because servers re NOT private.
still_one
(92,190 posts)right, which is why in 2014 and 2015 they have setup specific policies
JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)... is Hillary did it.
No info lost. None leaked. Nothing happened.
But Hillary "did it" so it must be bad.
Shame Snowden didn't get it all and leak it.
Folks would want a parade in his honor.
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)ericson00
(2,707 posts)mcar
(42,316 posts)Purveyor
(29,876 posts)didn't in fact 'get it all'.
IF it was captured by Snowden/foreign intel, why would they hurry to release it when it could most certainly come in handy should she, in the unlikely event, become POTUS.
KoKo
(84,711 posts)run by a Private Company. And, I'm not the SOS who has no business doing Personal State Department Business (as a Government Employee) stored on a server in her home in Chappaqua NY and run by a Private Company that (as far as we know) was not cleared for security by the Government that pays her.
Reter
(2,188 posts)SoS's know all the juicy things that governors don't.
Thor_MN
(11,843 posts)He doesn't know if his account was secure or not and making the same claim, that there was no secure info in the emails, if he had any fucking clue where they were. Given his WMD puppet show performance, I'm not surprised.
Seems if things were not biased, we should spend a couple million dollars finding out what he was doing.
Bjorn Against
(12,041 posts)I think we may want to hold people to a bit higher standard than what we saw from the Bush Administration.
ibegurpard
(16,685 posts)Not me.
frylock
(34,825 posts)Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)If not, then these things are not really comparable....are they?
Autumn
(45,076 posts)kacekwl
(7,017 posts)don't run for president ?
Autumn
(45,076 posts)Hillary is running for the nomination in the Democratic party what she does matters to me.
Bonobo
(29,257 posts)he has the good sense to know his political boat has way too many holes in it.
The sinking HSS Hillary will take down Dem hopes for 4 or 8 years I am afraid.
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delrem
(9,688 posts)idea that if Republicans do it, then it's justified, to a fairly large and homogeneous faction on DU.
DesertFlower
(11,649 posts)supporting bernie. just trying to be fair. didn't realize till tonight that hillary had the e-mail server in her home. i think she has some explaining to do.
i don't want a republican to be president. if hillary is the nominee she'll get my vote.
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delrem
(9,688 posts)Esp. honest brokers like condoleezza rice "But we don't want the smoking gun to be a mushroom cloud." and Colin Powell, "Saddam Hussein could have produced 25,000 liters (of anthrax)".
So naturally I also take my lead from Hillary Clinton "We came. We saw. He died. (hahaha)".
Because these are all so similar, they are true leaders, the creme de la creme.
TheKentuckian
(25,026 posts)Where the fuck was all the opposition to transparency and oversight for officials when we not that long ago tightened up all these shifty ass practices?
Is Colin Powell supposed to be some model of good governance and accountability to the public?
What type or banana republic are we aspiring to here?
I can't help it is also the same friends and fans of the dragnet surveillance state for us but literally demanding lack of accountability and oversight for supposed to be public servants either.
Sorry, I oppose your anti democratic paradigm. Why the fuck would folks demand to be subjects? That is what such an arrangement works out to mean.
To not even be able to admit that maybe this wasn't the best idea ever is illustrative of a car with no breaks, the wagons are on full auto circle) and drivers nor passengers have much in the way of give a damn about the right thing.
DesertFlower
(11,649 posts)trying to be fair to hillary.
how dare you say i'm anti democratic. i've been a democrat my entire life. i'm 74 years old.
there's no reason to get nasty and use foul language.
TheKentuckian
(25,026 posts)encouraging and supporting dragnet surveillance doesn't short circuit any real self governance.
Cha
(297,196 posts)Vinca
(50,270 posts)it's not in Hillary's best interest to say "but he did it, too."