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Graphic: This is What Republicans Want To Repeal (Original Post) OmahaBlueDog Jul 2012 OP
I wish they had included the pre-existing condition law. These changes are breathtaking, IMHO. Stardust Jul 2012 #1
You forgot one... Abra Jul 2012 #2
And your alternative is.....???? CTyankee Jul 2012 #3
What's your point? Dawgs Jul 2012 #4
(cough, cough) BULLSHIT! (cough, cough) HopeHoops Jul 2012 #5
30 million more people covered. Arkana Jul 2012 #6
Did someone order a pizza... SoFlaJet Jul 2012 #7
Worthless? Ask the people who will be covered that weren't before if it's worthless. (nt) ehrnst Jul 2012 #8
"We could have had actual healthcare." SalviaBlue Jul 2012 #10
My lovely parents, visiting from Austr.... Sheepshank Jul 2012 #9

Stardust

(3,894 posts)
1. I wish they had included the pre-existing condition law. These changes are breathtaking, IMHO.
Wed Jul 11, 2012, 02:27 AM
Jul 2012

Not perfect, but a million times better than what we had before.

 

Abra

(45 posts)
2. You forgot one...
Wed Jul 11, 2012, 05:31 AM
Jul 2012

300 MILLION Americans are now forced, by law, to purchase worthless insurance from the same corporations that are currently screwing them over.

There are no real price controls to stop these insurance giants from continuing to send their rates into the stratosphere, particularly now that you have no freaking choice but to buy their crap. There is nothing there to stop them from jacking co-pays clean to the moon if they want, and they will. Can't afford a worthless policy that covers nothing? No problem -- the government will borrow the money in your name, give it to the insurance companies, and leave our kids stuck with the bill.

And if you don't like it, too bad. The Supreme Court just ruled that it was a tax, and guess what happens when you don't pay your taxes. It may not happen today, but give it a few years and the government will send your ass to Prison for not paying.

The Insurance companies (and the Heritage Foundation) wrote the damn law. The only healthcare this corporatist bill provides for is the healthy bonus checks of billionare insurance company CEOs.

We could have had actual healthcare. Instead we got this. And worse, we now have to listen to democrats defending it.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
3. And your alternative is.....????
Wed Jul 11, 2012, 09:25 AM
Jul 2012

Now, Abra, you have a choice come November. You can vote for Romney, since you don't like Obama's stab at providing SOME health care to the people, and Romney will get you to worse, not to better, and certainly not to single payer or public option.

Another option is to sit out the election and have NO say in the outcome. So it seems to me you are stuck. I'm not saying you shouldn't feel the way you do. I'm saying that you have your choices before you and they are not what you want (or what I want which is single payer or at least public option). Boo hoo. I didn't get what I wanted either....but at least I have a pretty good idea of what I'm gonna have to do...

 

Dawgs

(14,755 posts)
4. What's your point?
Wed Jul 11, 2012, 09:54 AM
Jul 2012

You've offered nothing to the conversation, other than pointing out things most everyone already knows.

Do you at least have a solution on how to fix it?

Arkana

(24,347 posts)
6. 30 million more people covered.
Wed Jul 11, 2012, 10:08 AM
Jul 2012

That's an excellent statistic, no matter what the ideological purity goblins tell you.

No one said the ACA was a perfect solution and no one has said that we should just lie down and die on health care. But those are impressive numbers, and if the ACA disappeared tomorrow a lot of people would be left twisting in the wind. Think about that before you revert to that mid-80s Democratic mindset that caused us to lose three Presidential cycles in a row.

SoFlaJet

(7,767 posts)
7. Did someone order a pizza...
Wed Jul 11, 2012, 10:18 AM
Jul 2012

in this thread? Abra needs to add the word cadabra to the end of that name and POOF!!!! disappear

SalviaBlue

(2,916 posts)
10. "We could have had actual healthcare."
Wed Jul 11, 2012, 02:05 PM
Jul 2012

In what alternate reality do you reside?

We have more of a chance getting there incrementally by this route than by getting NOTHING, which is what we would have gotten if we didn't do this.

 

Sheepshank

(12,504 posts)
9. My lovely parents, visiting from Austr....
Wed Jul 11, 2012, 01:30 PM
Jul 2012

Romney and Obama all understand the idea of a large risk pool to help everyone one. The Mandate is necessary. Once this whole thing morphs into Medicare for all, we still all will pay, but it will more than likley be via tax deductions from our paychecks.

Permitting a large portion of the population to bilk the system, having the rest of us pick up their tab (in the form of highter fees and medical costs) because they assume they will never get sick or injured, does hurt everyone and they will no longer get that free ride. Many with financial difficulties will be exempt and I will gladly pay into the pool to help those that are unfortunate. Many others will be covered under mom and dad, or on their own...and it's time they put on their big boy undies/big girl panties and act like responsible members of society, instead of assuming they will get away with not paying their bills by simply visiting an emergency room.

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