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Attorney in Texas

(3,373 posts)
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 07:52 PM Aug 2015

Clinton isn't failing (you're thinking of Bush) and Sanders already provides a viable alternative

(Sanders has principled policy disagreements with Clinton whereas Biden agrees with Clinton on 98% of the key issues and is slightly to Clinton's right on those few issues where they disagree).

In sum, no Democrats need a "viable alternative" to replace the "failing" Clinton campaign; the MSM just needs to generate stories to sell newspapers and to provide hand-wringing topics for the shouting-at-each-other Sunday political talk shows.

Can we move on from the suggestion that some other candidate needs to jump in the race to fill the role that Sanders is already filling with intelligence and grace?

Can we also move on from the right-wing talking point that Clinton's campaign is failing because she used a private email server (just like George W. Bush, Jeb Bush, Scott Walker, Rick Perry, Bobby Jindal, and Martin O'Malley)?

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Clinton isn't failing (you're thinking of Bush) and Sanders already provides a viable alternative (Original Post) Attorney in Texas Aug 2015 OP
If anyone could get me to vote for Hillary in the primaries, it would be Joe Biden. Warren DeMontague Aug 2015 #1
I like Biden, but I see little call for a candidate ideologically similar to Clinton or to her right Attorney in Texas Aug 2015 #6
He's got some 'splainin to do on the topics I mentioned, as far as I'm concerned. Warren DeMontague Aug 2015 #7
Agreed. If I wanted a 3rd Obama term, I'd be drawn to Biden, but I'd prefer to move away from status Attorney in Texas Aug 2015 #8
We want all the Democrats we can get. Welcome to Joe! leftofcool Aug 2015 #2
ah, he might win, you know. Warren DeMontague Aug 2015 #3
I don't care much if Biden runs or not. I'm bothered by MSM drumbeating we need a viable alternative Attorney in Texas Aug 2015 #4
I see what you mean. leftofcool Aug 2015 #5
A problem is that Hillary Clinton isn't out there campaigning. delrem Aug 2015 #9
We have six months before the first caucuses and primaries and 15 months to the election. There's no Attorney in Texas Aug 2015 #10
More like 5 months now, Iowa is 2/1/16. n/t Motown_Johnny Aug 2015 #15
Have you seen this graph? Motown_Johnny Aug 2015 #11
and Bernie cant even break 25. moobu2 Aug 2015 #13
He just started running in April Motown_Johnny Aug 2015 #14
Bernie is federally unelectable. moobu2 Aug 2015 #12
Bwahahah! you are always right! Motown_Johnny Aug 2015 #16

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
1. If anyone could get me to vote for Hillary in the primaries, it would be Joe Biden.
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 07:56 PM
Aug 2015

I'd take HRC in a heartbeat over a long time booster of the drug war and co-sponsor of the RAVE act.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
7. He's got some 'splainin to do on the topics I mentioned, as far as I'm concerned.
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 10:25 PM
Aug 2015

I've been perfectly fine with him as VPOTUS, I appreciated his pushing Obama on marriage equality, on many matters I respect the guy, and I have deep sympathy for his recent heartbreaking loss---

But I can also tell you that the states that have legalized marijuana (and the ones which are likely to, soon) are NOT going to roll over for anyone who wants to start pushing the drug war again.

Attorney in Texas

(3,373 posts)
4. I don't care much if Biden runs or not. I'm bothered by MSM drumbeating we need a viable alternative
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 08:26 PM
Aug 2015

because the Clinton campaign is failing when we don't need a "viable alternative" (we've got one and he's kicking ass) and the Clinton campaign is not failing (her poll numbers exceed the combined total of Trump plus Bush plus Walker plus Rubio plus Paul plus Christie plus Jindal plus Perry plus Graham).

delrem

(9,688 posts)
9. A problem is that Hillary Clinton isn't out there campaigning.
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 02:58 AM
Aug 2015

She's fundraising at soirées with the moneyed class, she's holidaying in the Hamptons, and she isn't campaigning.

She tells the country, the world, that "if the (Keystone XL) matter is still undecided by the time she becomes president, she will give an answer then." Like a televangelist, there's nothing there.

Nature abhors a vacuum.

This is causing a lot of establishment pundits to freak out, or pretend to - and invent stories to fill the void while watching their paycheck.

Whatever story the establishment pundits write, they'll take the money and like it.

Attorney in Texas

(3,373 posts)
10. We have six months before the first caucuses and primaries and 15 months to the election. There's no
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 10:42 AM
Aug 2015

rush.

 

Motown_Johnny

(22,308 posts)
11. Have you seen this graph?
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 11:24 AM
Aug 2015


http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/2016-national-democratic-primary



Clinton and her campaign can't even deal with this crazy email stuff. What will she do when the real attacks start?

It is better she implodes now instead of a year from now.


moobu2

(4,822 posts)
12. Bernie is federally unelectable.
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 11:32 AM
Aug 2015

as in Bernie Sanders will never in a million years be elected president of the USA and I'm always right.

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