2016 Postmortem
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New Hampshire, well that's just New Hampshire.
New Hampshire can't possibly be indicative of how the country feels about the candidates, right?
~Bernie~
Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)I knew you could.
PowerToThePeople
(9,610 posts)HappyPlace
(568 posts)The problem we are witnessing, I'm not sure if it's been suggested yet, could be called "Hillary Fatigue".
What gave her such high numbers originally, name recognition and familiarity, are turning against her.
Contrastingly, Sanders is a fresh face, with a fresh approach and as more see him more love him.
All this despite the MSM refusal to give him airtime.
Hillary's "strength" has become her weakness.
People have Hillary Fatigue.
Bernie has a cure...
SCantiGOP
(13,869 posts)As is SC where Hillary will win by at least 2 to 1. Wouldn't read too much into either one.
Hydra
(14,459 posts)If she ran an honest left platform, I think she'd be a shoe in. There are 3 problems with that:
1. She and her husband are now adopted Bush Family. There is DEFINITELY Bush fatigue after 35 years of it.
2. She's obviously not a lefty, nor does she like us
3. If she did run as a lefty, we couldn't believe her if she did. She's got a bad record for honesty, and Obama already pulled that one in 2008.
roguevalley
(40,656 posts)HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)They are likely much more interested in things like people's reactions to Sanders positions.
If people's reactions to Trump's message is any indication, "taking it to Wall St" (aka H>'s donors) is polling very well this year.
That's got to be a bit uncomfortable.
HappyPlace
(568 posts)Standard stuff.
She's got the finger pointing and hand waving thing down pat.
And I always count the times she uses the work "I" in her stumps, I did this and I did that...
It's tiring, and I think that increasingly people are turned off by it.
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)Her campaigns financial disclosures suggest big bucks spent on internal polling.
There isn't any reason to assume that polling always moves immediately to public talking points.
But, Clinton's body language has many 'tells' when she's pitching a line she has practiced...sudden big eyes, high eye-brows, cocky head bobble and the good old wave of the lecturing finger.
HappyPlace
(568 posts)There are also certain inflections of voice (most politicians have these traits) that seem to be turned on or off but just don't come off as sincere, to me.
Is there such a thing as too much practice? I think so.
And I think America longs for authenticity.
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)but her often exaggerated expressions come across something akin to over-acting. Seems to me that often happens when she plays with and then sets the hook on an otherwise good "gotcha" line.
arlington.mass
(41 posts)Hillary actually rails against Wall Street while they are financing her operation
She trumpets support of gay marriage when we know she voted against it
She claims to support minorities when we know her and Bill's policies resulted in millions of young black men in prison, as she rakes in money from for-profit prisons
She speaks as if she is against incessant war though she supported it with her votes
Too many times her public policy positions are at odds with her actions
Bernie says what he means and has the track record to prove it, that's what we crave
jtuck004
(15,882 posts)Authenticity doesn't come from how well you deliver your message. But if you screw up the delivery you may never get the chance to do anything else. Damn right they practice. But people sometimes forget what they are practicing for. The practice turns into the goal, they get out of balance.
Authenticity comes from the fact that Bernie has been practicing and giving this speech for his entire career.
The others are relatively new to being on the side of the people.
You can't practice that.
Helen Borg
(3,963 posts)Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)Dark money vs light money
Light money vs dark money
Helen Borg
(3,963 posts)In one graph Bernie is dark blue, in the other Hillary is dark blue... Why did they do that?
Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)I'm rapping
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)Which is LBJ's advisers said after he "won" New Hampshire.