2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumFour Major Questions Emerge on the Campaign Trail
August has been anything but quiet, and as we head into September there are four huge questions on the table:
http://www.borntorunthenumbers.com/2015/08/august-2015-election-update-four-major.html
tgards79
(1,415 posts)1. Who won/lost the GOP debate?
2. What can derail Trump?
3. Is Hillary in trouble?
4. Will Biden run?
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)Well, they're not the questions anyone I know would be asking.
Most people I know want to know what can be done so save this country from itself.
tgards79
(1,415 posts)That's certainly a more substantial question. What are they saying is the answer?
Juicy_Bellows
(2,427 posts)1. Trump
2. Trump
3. Yes
4. No
Cheers!
Ron Green
(9,822 posts)that keeps the game going; the game that keeps our politics working for transnational capital and against people.
Bernie Sanders' candidacy is a test for America. We may yet fail it.
tgards79
(1,415 posts)Don't you realize that if Bernie is nominated versus, say, Jeb Bush, he will either 1) tack center or 2) get absolutely crushed? And that he will start courting big money because he'll need a billion to have any chance? Beware of what you wish for.
Ron Green
(9,822 posts)And remind everyone that Enough is indeed enough. If people don't respond to that, then America deserves Jeb Bush. And so it will be.
The game has got to come to an end.
tgards79
(1,415 posts)I call that "wishing and hoping." Me, I want the Dems to win. I don't make unrealistic assumptions that things might change based on "truth telling" and hope for the best. This is a center-right country, emphasis on "center." Bernie would get crushed, Just like McGovern. And Ted Cruz would get crushed just like Barry Goldwater. Only centrist Dems win -- Carter, Clinton, Obama. Let's hope to god there is no smoking gun Benghazi email that Hillary is hiding, because she can win.
Ron Green
(9,822 posts)salvaging a world our kids and grandkids can live in.
We may not make it. A Republican in the WH may bring an in-the-streets revolution, whereas somebody like HRC could keep the death spiral going. However, I don't think she's electable given Republican hatred for her. Bernie, in my view, has a much better chance to pull it off.
These "four questions" in the OP is just more insider, horse race crap that's designed to keep people asleep.
Chan790
(20,176 posts)Speculative assumption at-best.
(I honestly don't believe she can hold a lead or win.)
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)1. Who's your Daddy?
2. Cake or death?
3. What's your shoe size?
and of course
4. What is the air-speed velocity of an unladen swallow?
tgards79
(1,415 posts)...an African or European swallow?
MrMickeysMom
(20,453 posts)
and that affects one of the questions
.
What is happening to the Democratic party at the local level? I'd say much of it is splitting right in front of our eyes. It's rather hard to poll who is behind and how the delegates are parsed when there is SO MUCH of this split. It's happening in Florida. I'm not sure about my own state of PA, but certainly in the states where the Democratic committees actually function.
How to know? Infiltrate the local meetings, and you'll get a better idea of who the party will nominate. I believe this is all about to change. Fuck those super delegates, anyway. What a bastardization that concept is...
The first thing that should fall out based on my perception and therefore the question as to whether HRC gets the numbers to indicate her party will support her nomination is
you guessed it
DWS. She's the one who's crapped on so much of the party. She should go. We do not need neo-liberals who try to keep up with all the brethren fascists leading us into debate limitation, based on what's in it for them.
It's no longer about what's in it for the "leaders"
We are WAY past that.