Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search
 

HappyPlace

(568 posts)
Sun Sep 6, 2015, 01:11 PM Sep 2015

Why this Latino supports Bernie Sanders and not Hillary Clinton:

Why this Latino supports Bernie Sanders and not Hillary Clinton:

Due to recent tone deaf statements that marginalize Sanders' existing minority support, I felt compelled to post this article and say a few words about my support as a Latino for Bernie Sanders and why I do not support Hillary Clinton.

I am proud to support a candidate who actually took the time to visit the fields and see first hand how migrant workers were being horribly mistreated and then spoke up for them. I am proud to support a candidate who traveled to Nicaragua to take a stand against U.S. imperialism under Reagan. Actions speak louder than words. I am proud to support a candidate who rightfully says the war on drugs has been a failure. I am proud to support a candidate who believes healthcare is a right, especially since this issue affects minorities in such a disproportionate way.

I am proud to support a candidate who doesn't need to be dishonest about their immigrant heritage to pander or flip flop and refuse to take a stand until it's politically expedient. I have zero trust in Hillary Clinton to be an advocate for Latinos and immigrants in general. I fully expect her continued support for violent right wing regimes and then to continue to turn her back on the refugees her actions help create.

I stand with Bernie Sanders because he stands with us.

GREAT read and links at Kos: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/07/29/1406832/-Why-this-Latino-supports-Bernie-Sanders-and-not-Hillary-Clinton


&feature=youtu.be

The choice is simple. La elección es clara.

Vote for Bernie Sanders. Vota por Bernie Sanders.

48 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
Why this Latino supports Bernie Sanders and not Hillary Clinton: (Original Post) HappyPlace Sep 2015 OP
Stop telling Latinos what's best for them Bernie!!1! beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #1
Yes, any moment now! HappyPlace Sep 2015 #3
How would having a person who visited migrant camps with concerns about the health and education of Thinkingabout Sep 2015 #2
I don't understand your question. I really just don't know what you mean. HappyPlace Sep 2015 #5
You say you have visited in with the migrant workers, Hillary visited in migrant camps locating Thinkingabout Sep 2015 #10
Post a link to HRC knocking on doors in migrant camps, please. n/t delrem Sep 2015 #13
There are photo-ops, and then there's a candidate's record on matters of policy. HappyPlace Sep 2015 #15
Oh good, we can chalk another racist up on the... SonderWoman Sep 2015 #27
Do you have any information linking Bernie to assisting woth the migrant family children? Thinkingabout Sep 2015 #34
Perhaps some things just can't be explained to a supporter of Hillary Rodham Clinton. n/t delrem Sep 2015 #7
Are you saying that the occupant of White House shouldn't have first-hand knowledge Ken Burch Sep 2015 #24
Hillary knew about the conditions well before the WH. Thinkingabout Sep 2015 #33
very heartfelt and reasoned statement by that person. I think unless you have a heart of roguevalley Sep 2015 #4
We become more like those places year by year. HappyPlace Sep 2015 #6
Excellent! Le Taz Hot Sep 2015 #8
K&R. AtomicKitten Sep 2015 #9
Ditto. SoapBox Sep 2015 #11
"Hillary Clinton Defends Call To Deport Child Migrants" Cheese Sandwich Sep 2015 #12
Wow. And, worse, she helped to create the crisis from which children are fleeing. HappyPlace Sep 2015 #16
Sure. It's disgraceful Cheese Sandwich Sep 2015 #17
In one of the newly released e-mails Lanny is begging her KoKo Sep 2015 #18
Wow, she has a hard time giving a straight answer in that clip. Old Crow Sep 2015 #14
Recommend Read! KoKo Sep 2015 #19
U.S. policies, ie; The ludicrous "War on Drugs" have only worked to destabilize Central America, Uncle Joe Sep 2015 #20
Hey you all may be interested in what else MyNameGoesHere Sep 2015 #21
Look. It's a CNN video and Hillary's own words. Guilt by association, much? More links: HappyPlace Sep 2015 #22
I used a channel 4 nbc news piece on Bernie and it got hidden. SonderWoman Sep 2015 #28
That was a bad call. NT HappyPlace Sep 2015 #32
No, it was a good call, both her op and post got hidden for good reason. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #37
Whoa! Well I should have known. HappyPlace Sep 2015 #38
See my post #36 for the links: beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #39
You posted a video showing a Republican ad accusing Bernie of supporting pedophiles. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #36
Oh Snap! HappyPlace Sep 2015 #40
Yep, they are as "concerned" about Bernie as the convicted felon who paid for those ads. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #48
Can you refute whether or not that CNN interview is valid? HappyPlace Sep 2015 #23
Oh the interview is CNN alright MyNameGoesHere Sep 2015 #41
Very Well Said - No Citizen Need Settle For The Lesser Of Two Corporate Evils - Go Bernie Go cantbeserious Sep 2015 #25
I'm a Latina, but I'll be very circumspect about who I support in the primaries. Rozlee Sep 2015 #26
Vote for who you want for president. That other crap will sort itself out. nt Snotcicles Sep 2015 #31
Proud to stand with you supporting Bernie Sanders, HappyPlace. nt Snotcicles Sep 2015 #29
Cool Story. But this Latino is still voting for Hillary. SonderWoman Sep 2015 #30
It's mind-boggling that with all the stories, Unknown Beatle Sep 2015 #35
It's Simple really, they think it is a sporting event Dragonfli Sep 2015 #42
Time for music, Latin Miami style! Vive Bernie, Si se puede! appalachiablue Sep 2015 #43
Perfecto! HappyPlace Sep 2015 #44
Si, Perfecto and Fabuloso! Gloria is la bella and the best! with the Miami Sound Machine. appalachiablue Sep 2015 #45
One and only guitar virtuoso and legend, Carols Santana. Play it, el maestro! appalachiablue Sep 2015 #46
Raul Malo's divine version of Eternally, the movie song by Charlie Chaplin. Es una hermosa cancion! appalachiablue Sep 2015 #47

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
1. Stop telling Latinos what's best for them Bernie!!1!
Sun Sep 6, 2015, 01:13 PM
Sep 2015

Or something.



Seriously, good op! Nice job embedding the links, that's a lot of work.


Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
2. How would having a person who visited migrant camps with concerns about the health and education of
Sun Sep 6, 2015, 01:15 PM
Sep 2015

migrant workers be a good move?

 

HappyPlace

(568 posts)
5. I don't understand your question. I really just don't know what you mean.
Sun Sep 6, 2015, 01:49 PM
Sep 2015

Please explain how what he did is NOT a good thing.



The president is tasked with taking care of all Americans, not just wealthy Americans and not wealthy businesses in, say, India.

Thus, going among the people is a good move, if you care about all people.

In 2008 Senator Bernie Sanders and author Eric Schlosser joined the Coalition of Immokalee Workers in Immokalee, Florida to call for end to modern-day slavery and sweatshop conditions in Florida's fields.



Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
10. You say you have visited in with the migrant workers, Hillary visited in migrant camps locating
Sun Sep 6, 2015, 02:40 PM
Sep 2015

children to get them into school and get their health care concerns handled. She knocked on doors and ask what it would take to get the children's education and health concerns addressed.

 

HappyPlace

(568 posts)
15. There are photo-ops, and then there's a candidate's record on matters of policy.
Sun Sep 6, 2015, 03:18 PM
Sep 2015

What harm is done a working Hispanic mother who's job is outsourced to a foreign provider at a fraction of the cost?



 

SonderWoman

(1,169 posts)
27. Oh good, we can chalk another racist up on the...
Sun Sep 6, 2015, 04:19 PM
Sep 2015

List of sources Bernie supporters use against Hillary. Lou Dobbs, Ann Coulter, Jim Robbins, SE Cupp, National Review, etc.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
24. Are you saying that the occupant of White House shouldn't have first-hand knowledge
Sun Sep 6, 2015, 04:04 PM
Sep 2015

of the conditions faced by farmworkers?

Farmworkers have a lot of issues in common with people like yourself(I recall you saying that you are in a minimum wage job or had spent a considerable amount of time doing such work).

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
33. Hillary knew about the conditions well before the WH.
Sun Sep 6, 2015, 04:32 PM
Sep 2015

She worked for the Children's Defense Fund rather than going to work for a large law firm.

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
4. very heartfelt and reasoned statement by that person. I think unless you have a heart of
Sun Sep 6, 2015, 01:48 PM
Sep 2015

stone, you better develop a good position on immigrants and follow it with action. The refugee situation in Europe and the Middle East is only the start. When starvation hits China, a couple of billion people will start walking. This Earth better care about all her people because there is nothing that is worth more than the lives of everyone. If you don't think so, consider how much stuff you take with you when you die.

 

HappyPlace

(568 posts)
6. We become more like those places year by year.
Sun Sep 6, 2015, 02:14 PM
Sep 2015

If we don't turn it around it won't end well.

Thank you, roguevalley.

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
11. Ditto.
Sun Sep 6, 2015, 02:47 PM
Sep 2015

One of many of her worst nightmares is when Bernie and the Berners start hitting the South HARD!

 

Cheese Sandwich

(9,086 posts)
12. "Hillary Clinton Defends Call To Deport Child Migrants"
Sun Sep 6, 2015, 02:56 PM
Sep 2015

Hillary Clinton Defends Call To Deport Child Migrants


Hillary Clinton this week defended her call to deport children from the U.S. who are fleeing violence in Central America.

Speaking at a press conference in Las Vegas on Tuesday, the former secretary of state and candidate for the Democratic presidential nomination said that deporting the children, many of whom are seeking asylum, would send a “responsible message” that would deter Central American families from sending their children to the United States.

“Specifically with respect to children on the border, if you remember, we had an emergency, and it was very important to send a message to families in Central America: Do not let your children take this very dangerous journey,” Clinton said.

Now that the border crisis has largely passed, however, Clinton said U.S. immigration authorities should focus on expediting the deportation cases of children and people locked in family detention.

- See more at: http://www.spanishjournal.com/2015/09/hillary-clinton-defends-call-to-deport-child-migrants/
 

HappyPlace

(568 posts)
16. Wow. And, worse, she helped to create the crisis from which children are fleeing.
Sun Sep 6, 2015, 03:23 PM
Sep 2015

Could be an OP all on it's own

EXCLUSIVE: Hillary Clinton sold out Honduras: Lanny Davis, corporate cash, and the real story about the death of a Latin American democracy

Want to know why Clinton's State Dept. failed to help an elected leader? Follow the money and stench of Lanny Davis



Former Maryland governor Martin O’Malley, considered by some to be the only real threat to Hillary Clinton, has joined Sen. Bernie Sanders to be the only two challengers to the former secretary of state. Republicans, whose seemingly limitless field seems poised for a “Hunger Games”-esque cage match, worry that a Clinton cakewalk through the primaries will leave her relatively unscathed in the general election against a beaten and beleaguered GOP nominee whose every foible will have been exposed.

And yet for some reason, GOP candidates lob tired Benghazi charges at the presumptive Democratic nominee during the short breaks in infighting. The issue only really excites the GOP base, and it’s highly unlikely that after almost three years of pounding the issue the tactic will work. Plus, House Republicans’ own two-year investigation into the attack absolved Clinton’s State Department of the worst GOP allegations, giving her something of her own “please proceed, Governor” arrow in the quiver if she is attacked from that angle.

More at the link: http://www.salon.com/2015/06/08/exclusive_hillary_clinton_sold_out_honduras_lanny_davis_corporate_cash_and_the_real_story_about_the_death_of_a_latin_america_democracy/

KoKo

(84,711 posts)
18. In one of the newly released e-mails Lanny is begging her
Sun Sep 6, 2015, 03:45 PM
Sep 2015

for some favor.

Thanks for the post to refresh our memory about Lanny.

There's so much unfavorable ties that could be exposed about the Clintons and their associations (and probably will be down the line if she is the nominee) which is why those of us who lived through their Presidency don't want to go through it again.

Old Crow

(2,212 posts)
14. Wow, she has a hard time giving a straight answer in that clip.
Sun Sep 6, 2015, 03:09 PM
Sep 2015

Bob and weave, bob and weave. This is why Hillary Clinton comes across as untrustworthy. Blecch.

Uncle Joe

(58,517 posts)
20. U.S. policies, ie; The ludicrous "War on Drugs" have only worked to destabilize Central America,
Sun Sep 6, 2015, 03:50 PM
Sep 2015

creating chaos, magnifying violence backing brutal, autocratic dictators, enriching organized crime, increasing poverty which in turn has created a flood of refugees, Hillary's proposals are nothing but more of the same.

It's a dead end.

Thanks for the thread, HappyPlace.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
37. No, it was a good call, both her op and post got hidden for good reason.
Sun Sep 6, 2015, 05:44 PM
Sep 2015

Accusing Bernie of supporting pedophiles is beyond the pale, imo they should be banned for spewing right wing propaganda on DU.

 

HappyPlace

(568 posts)
38. Whoa! Well I should have known.
Sun Sep 6, 2015, 05:47 PM
Sep 2015

I was on my iPhone and just made a quick reply.

Damn, I gave them the benefit of the doubt.

Thanks for some truth about it.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
36. You posted a video showing a Republican ad accusing Bernie of supporting pedophiles.
Sun Sep 6, 2015, 05:43 PM
Sep 2015
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251549982

And then you accused him of the same thing here:

http://election.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=561917

Why are you pretending that your posts got hidden for no reason?
 

HappyPlace

(568 posts)
40. Oh Snap!
Sun Sep 6, 2015, 06:00 PM
Sep 2015

I do remember seeing that a couple weeks ago, forgot who posted it.

Classic "concern" post:

Is Bernie's "testiness" going to be a problem during debates?


Good Grief!

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
48. Yep, they are as "concerned" about Bernie as the convicted felon who paid for those ads.
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 04:30 AM
Sep 2015

I expect those kinds of accusations from Republican dirtbags but when you see them repeated on DU by HC supporters you have to wonder why they think that helps Democrats.

 

HappyPlace

(568 posts)
23. Can you refute whether or not that CNN interview is valid?
Sun Sep 6, 2015, 04:04 PM
Sep 2015

Because the same video clip is held by other providers, I just used one that came from the Daily Kos article.

Funny that your only way to refute the damning evidence is to try to smear whoever it was that posted it on YouTube.

Darn, that's seriously weak.

 

MyNameGoesHere

(7,638 posts)
41. Oh the interview is CNN alright
Sun Sep 6, 2015, 07:11 PM
Sep 2015

But that headline is straight from a right wing wacko poster who is also a racist. But I have heard that's not a prblem for some candidates and their supporters. The actual interview was interesting. She noticed there is more than just a keep them or leave them here problem. You should watch it, but stay away from that particular YouTube contributor. You might need a shower, or not.

Rozlee

(2,529 posts)
26. I'm a Latina, but I'll be very circumspect about who I support in the primaries.
Sun Sep 6, 2015, 04:12 PM
Sep 2015

Pure and simple, I want a Democrat to win. Whether it's Hillary, Bernie or a yellow dog. I'll be watching the polls and seeing who has a better chance of besting the strongest candidates in the Republican field. I tilt slightly more toward HRC than Bernie, mostly because of her activism on behalf of women. But, I'm not 'voting my conscience.' Screw that. Look what happened to the idiots who did that in 2000 with Ralph Nader.

Unknown Beatle

(2,672 posts)
35. It's mind-boggling that with all the stories,
Sun Sep 6, 2015, 05:28 PM
Sep 2015

backed up with links and facts, about Hillary's flip-flopping, lies and distortions, her history as secretary of state, hobnobbing with wall st CEO's and rich and powerful people which give huge sums of money to her super pac, the list is long, but people that know this will actually vote for her.

I honestly don't understand this weird phenomenon.

Dragonfli

(10,622 posts)
42. It's Simple really, they think it is a sporting event
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 12:20 AM
Sep 2015

Al they want is whatever team they chose to win, even if a player commits fouls or cheats to win its "go team go". Such sports enthusiasts do not care or will willfully ignore the cheating and fouls.

Most such people are not the ones getting screwed by the system that don't have enough food and worry about becoming homeless, THOSE THAT THINK IT SPORT just watch on their giant flat screens and root for their favorite player, even when that player cheats or are foul, er I mean commit fouls.

That's my take on it anyway, but I don't have the middle class and upper class comfortable life that can enjoy this thinking it is a sporting event and realize elections from local races to the presidency are life or death decisions affecting real lives - and the wrong choices can and have killed or impoverished millions of living breathing feeling people. By killing them outright in wars of political convenience (or profit) or starving them to death by enacting policies and laws that put people in the street to starve or freeze to death or by denying them healthcare because they can't afford the cost of actually using the insurance racket set up for those that prosper from the sickness and death they deal in.

SPORTS GO SPORTS!

appalachiablue

(41,197 posts)
43. Time for music, Latin Miami style! Vive Bernie, Si se puede!
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 01:29 AM
Sep 2015
Gloria Estefan sings,
~ Get on Your Feet
Get up and Make It Happen
Stand Up and Take Some Action

Get Up and Make It Happen
Don't Stop Before It Happens
The Weight is Off Your Shoulders
Don't Stop Before It's Over ~


appalachiablue

(41,197 posts)
45. Si, Perfecto and Fabuloso! Gloria is la bella and the best! with the Miami Sound Machine.
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 02:01 AM
Sep 2015

Sen. Sanders speech to the La Raza Kansas City conference, the largest and oldest Latino organization in America, in June 2015 on issues of immigration reform, racism, voter suppression and equal rights. Viva Bernardo!



Latest Discussions»Retired Forums»2016 Postmortem»Why this Latino supports ...