2016 Postmortem
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(12,685 posts)Catherina
(35,568 posts)liberal_at_heart
(12,081 posts)Catherina
(35,568 posts)It's not like people haven't been vocal about it. Or didn't get out on the streets.
All we kept hearing was that we were the fringe.
Well, fringe this, baby!
daleanime
(17,796 posts)kenfrequed
(7,865 posts)It really allows the pundit class and the mainstream media to water down the policies and ideas of Sanders campaign to being about moods. This is not merely "anti-establishment."
The biggest problems of our times in politics is the role of money in political power and the vast disparity of wealth and what that is doing to deform Democracy.
The Tea Party and Birther nonsense that spawned Trump was created by a massive astroturfing effort and Trump is a racist misogynistic, xenophobic moron.
This is intensely frustrating to watch.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)the most important issue of this campaign. Bernie has made it the central focus of his campaign, by publicly REFUSING the Dark Money bribery that is what this money is.
liberal_at_heart
(12,081 posts)not representing the people. It is a cause and effect. Calling it what it is doesn't water down the message at all. Approval rating for Congress are embarrassing low and more than half of the country doesn't vote. I think we understand why there is an anti-establishment feeling. It is corruption. The American people know this. They are not as dumb as some campaign managers and media think they are.
zeemike
(18,998 posts)People are fed up in both parties.
The bullshit just is not working anymore.
I'm fed up.
99Forever
(14,524 posts)oldandhappy
(6,719 posts)dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)kenfrequed
(7,865 posts)We really need to stomp on this stupid media bullshit when it comes to comparing Trump and Sanders. They are nothing alike in terms of policy and their supporters have little in common in terms of interest.
fadedrose
(10,044 posts)and the devotion of their supporters - other than the ones bankrolling them.
The media practically had to feed and fertilize the Trump movement.
Bernie's supporters cropped up pretty near organically in a period where the media outlets were mostly trying to ignore him.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)After so much getting knocked around by Bluto, Popeye finally has had enough, pops open his spinach, and shouts "I'VE HAD ALL I CAN STANDS, and I CAN"T STANDS NO MORE!!!"
That's where the 99% are now.
The smart and constructive ones are with Bernie, the paranoids and cave orcs are with tRump. But they are all past the Popeye Point.