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riversedge

(70,245 posts)
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 01:49 PM Sep 2015

Hillary Clinton, Gov Shumlin, D, Vermont appear at drug abuse event in New Hampshire





Hillary Clinton, Shumlin appear at drug abuse event in New Hampshire
Published 5:34 PM EDT Sep 17, 2015



LACONIA, N.H. (AP) —Hillary Rodham Clinton says the problem of substance abuse is hurting rural communities and left untreated will only get worse.


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Clinton is promoting a $10 billion initiative to address drug and alcohol abuse, which has roiled many rural communities in New Hampshire. She says the disease needs to be "interrupted and treated" and warns it's "going to get worse" if the U.S. doesn't address it.

Clinton was joined by Vermont Gov. Peter Shumlin, a Democrat who endorsed her over Sanders. She will pick up the endorsement on Friday of New Hampshire Gov. Maggie Hassan.
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Hillary Clinton, Gov Shumlin, D, Vermont appear at drug abuse event in New Hampshire (Original Post) riversedge Sep 2015 OP
Scummy Shummy. not because he's supporting Hillary, but cali Sep 2015 #1
This is scummy too: SonderWoman Sep 2015 #2
So is promoting the Republican smear that Bernie protects pedophiles: beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #3
Oh it's you again. SonderWoman Sep 2015 #4
pfft cali Sep 2015 #6
Pffft. SonderWoman Sep 2015 #29
The criminal you cited as a source: beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #7
LOL at your desperate attempt for my attention. SonderWoman Sep 2015 #10
Nice try but you linked to a Republican smear against Bernie from 2006. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #13
LOL. YOU'RE the one promoting it. SonderWoman Sep 2015 #15
Except that's your hidden op, not mine. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #17
Yes, that YOU'RE promoting. SonderWoman Sep 2015 #23
I'm not promoting anything, I'm pointing out your hypocrisy. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #26
You don't even know me. SonderWoman Sep 2015 #30
I just posted a link that shows you're a hypocrite, I don't need to "know" you. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #32
How fragile and small minded. SonderWoman Sep 2015 #34
lol. lame. you really aren't very good at this. cali Sep 2015 #5
I'm not the one campaigning with a man who... SonderWoman Sep 2015 #8
no you're the one supporting the dog whistler. cali Sep 2015 #9
Stop deflecting. I'm not running for office. SonderWoman Sep 2015 #12
Neither is Cornel West. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #14
lol. from lame to lamer. cali Sep 2015 #18
YOU are going to call anyone lame??? SonderWoman Sep 2015 #24
cali called your attempt to derail the thread lame, and it is. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #33
no, dear. I did not. cali Sep 2015 #39
How did he "bamboozle" the black community? beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #11
Great news and something all progressives should support. Thanks for the op. nt. NCTraveler Sep 2015 #16
all progressive should support a powerful, wealthy governor who tried to cali Sep 2015 #19
Hi cali. NCTraveler Sep 2015 #21
Its always about character assassination, never about policy. SonderWoman Sep 2015 #25
I do. I don't support billions in giveaways to "faith based" orgs, though, nor do I support making Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #38
Good for HRC and Gov. Shumlin, this epidemic is wrecking rural communities. greatlaurel Sep 2015 #20
Thanks. NCTraveler Sep 2015 #28
At the beginning of her campaign she also had a couple of forums on this topic. riversedge Sep 2015 #35
Here is a link to the Wikipedia article on Gov. Shumlin. People should take a look, very progressive greatlaurel Sep 2015 #22
sorry, he's my governor. there are good reasons he's the most disliked pol in Vermont cali Sep 2015 #31
Medicare for all proposed by Bernie would help a lot in this area. We have completely liberal_at_heart Sep 2015 #27
She wants to rebrand the drug war, not end it. Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #37
she still taking that private prison lobbyist money? Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #36
Hillary Clinton bails on hanging out with eager kids from Laconia Boys & Girls Club cherokeeprogressive Sep 2015 #40
 

cali

(114,904 posts)
1. Scummy Shummy. not because he's supporting Hillary, but
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 01:52 PM
Sep 2015

because he tried to cheat his mentally disabled neighbor out of his property.

 

SonderWoman

(1,169 posts)
29. Pffft.
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 03:04 PM
Sep 2015

Who needs a perspective from the black community anyway, right? We should all just shut up and listen to silver spoon Vermonters. They know what is best for us!

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
7. The criminal you cited as a source:
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 02:24 PM
Sep 2015
Hospital finance scandal

Richard Tarrant sat on the Board of Trustees Finance and Planning committees, with responsibilities for oversight.

In January 2005, William Boettcher, former chief executive officer of Vermont's Fletcher Allen Health Care, pleaded guilty to federal conspiracy charges, admitting that he hid the real costs of the hospital's $367 million expansion—dubbed the Renaissance Project—from state regulators. Tarrant was then removed from the board, along with others who served during the expansion project, but was not implicated in any wrongdoing.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Tarrant

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
13. Nice try but you linked to a Republican smear against Bernie from 2006.
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 02:30 PM
Sep 2015

And you're still promoting it here.

When it comes to scum Tarrant is the kind that covers a cess pit.

Keep digging in it though.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
26. I'm not promoting anything, I'm pointing out your hypocrisy.
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 03:02 PM
Sep 2015

You're the last person who should be lecturing others about what's "scummy" and what's not.

 

SonderWoman

(1,169 posts)
30. You don't even know me.
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 03:07 PM
Sep 2015

If you did you would be the last person to say that.

All. You. Got. Is. Insults.

 

SonderWoman

(1,169 posts)
34. How fragile and small minded.
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 03:16 PM
Sep 2015

Not my problem. I have a good job, I work hard, I'm raising kids, and I'm also a community activist. But you go on and keep policing this forum 24/7 and casting your judgement upon all. Good for you.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
14. Neither is Cornel West.
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 02:31 PM
Sep 2015

And you're the one who responded to cali, using your logic that means you're the obsessed one.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
18. lol. from lame to lamer.
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 02:38 PM
Sep 2015

And you are confusing my amusement over that with an obsession about you. Even funnier

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
19. all progressive should support a powerful, wealthy governor who tried to
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 02:40 PM
Sep 2015

cheat his disabled neighbor out of his home? There's a reason shummy is so unpopular here.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
21. Hi cali.
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 02:42 PM
Sep 2015

All progressives should support programs that will immediately help people with addictions who want it. Great ideas they are putting forward. Have a wonderful day.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
38. I do. I don't support billions in giveaways to "faith based" orgs, though, nor do I support making
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 07:07 PM
Sep 2015

it even more difficult for people in pain to get it legitimately managed because their doctors are terrified of the draconian DEA.

And both of those are elements of her supposedly "enlightened" 10 billion dollar approach.

greatlaurel

(2,004 posts)
20. Good for HRC and Gov. Shumlin, this epidemic is wrecking rural communities.
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 02:41 PM
Sep 2015

This is a really good thing for HRC to bring attention to and discuss. These people need treatment, not jailed. This means a lot for people who have family members fighting this disease. HRC just keeps putting out good ideas to help all citizens. Step by step she is laying the groundwork for a campaign with coattails.

Well done to both of them. Glad to see Gov. Hassan on board, too.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
28. Thanks.
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 03:04 PM
Sep 2015

So easy for some to be immediately dismissive of something of such great importance.

I would say they do so for a couple of reasons, all flowing from your post.

1) They do not have a family member or close friend who is an addict.
2) They do and are still in the anger phase.
3) An addict has stole from them, once again bringing their thoughts to anger instead of understanding. I have actually had an addict steal from me yet never felt anger. I know some can't do that.
4) Petty political reasons.
5) A lack of education and understanding.

I hate seeing people be dismissive about this topic. It hurts as the people here are suppose to be on our side with this.

"she is laying the groundwork for a campaign with coattails." Big time.

greatlaurel

(2,004 posts)
22. Here is a link to the Wikipedia article on Gov. Shumlin. People should take a look, very progressive
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 02:54 PM
Sep 2015
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Shumlin

His endorsement should say a lot to real Democratic Party members.
 

cali

(114,904 posts)
31. sorry, he's my governor. there are good reasons he's the most disliked pol in Vermont
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 03:08 PM
Sep 2015

Like cheating his mentally disabled neighbor out of his property.

Lots of ugly stories about shummy.

http://vtdigger.org/2013/05/24/digging-deep-into-the-shumlin-dodge-deal/

liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
27. Medicare for all proposed by Bernie would help a lot in this area. We have completely
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 03:03 PM
Sep 2015

abandoned mental health in this country. If people could get the medicine and counseling they need drug abuse treatment would work much better. My sister in law has been trying to quit drugs for decades now and her addiction is so strong she simply walks out of rehabilitation centers when the cravings get too strong.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
37. She wants to rebrand the drug war, not end it.
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 07:06 PM
Sep 2015

Hopefully at the very least she's being honest when she says (off camera) that she intends to leave states alone that have legalized recreational marijuana.

One hopes that her "crusade to fix drug addiction" doesn't mean "send the swat teams into Colorado to round up all the pot smokers, and if they won't go into treatment we give them to our private prison lobbyist pals"

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
36. she still taking that private prison lobbyist money?
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 07:00 PM
Sep 2015

somehow I'm not sure she's the right person to "fix" the drug war.

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