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still_one

(92,228 posts)
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 07:22 PM Sep 2015

From Daily KOS, article from a Bernie Supporter:

"The Zealotry is Getting Out of Hand"

Author: Chris Reeves's Profile:

http://www.dailykos.com/user/Chris%20Reeves

Full Disclosure: I have attended numerous "Bernie" events. I was also at the rally and Netroots Nation in Phoenix, and I have donated money to those who are working on behalf of Bernie and the campaign.
While that is true, I'm finding that the commentary of several - not all - supporters of Bernie Sanders is not nearly as informative - and sometimes intellectually dishonest - in a way that is not making for a battle of ideas, but rather a demonizing of those who do not support Bernie as much as you do. It is also running over those ideas and important issues while we fill up the REC list with generic daily BERNIE IS AWESOME! material while many great stories that need attention should get them."

This morning, during a conference call, the joke came up that in order to get attention, the quickest way was to put BERNIE! in some fashion in their title. While I am all for rah-rah we support Bernie as a Bernie supporter, too much of this has also turned into: "Hillary is SO unacceptable I will quit if X" or "Hillary is borderline evil" which several comments have filled with seeming scorn of Hillary supporters.

While I support Bernie, I have no problem saying I would gladly, happily vote for Hillary in a general election. Her stances on many issues are VERY progressive, and her direct track record includes something I can't forget: by all accounts, her work on helping select and manage judges for the Clinton administration brought us names who have shaped the courts we have in a very positive way. Does anyone doubt that the selection of Ruth Bader Ginsburg is a significant moment for progressives? Or that the choices made to go away from insider "preferred" picks - like George Mitchell?

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http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/07/29/1406873/-As-a-Bernie-Supporter-The-Zealotry-is-Getting-Out-of-Hand

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From Daily KOS, article from a Bernie Supporter: (Original Post) still_one Sep 2015 OP
have some Hillary zealitry cali Sep 2015 #1
Yeah get back to me when a Bernie supporter claims he owns women and minorities. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #3
s/he shoots, s/he scores!! nt restorefreedom Sep 2015 #26
! beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #29
my pleasure nt restorefreedom Sep 2015 #30
Some more -- Hillary will win... Ino Sep 2015 #22
man you guys are fast! restorefreedom Sep 2015 #27
I'm really sorry I clicked on that link. nt LWolf Sep 2015 #38
So are you saying we Bernie supporters are reccing the Bernie OPs a little too much? Autumn Sep 2015 #2
i fully admit i log in just to rec positive bernie ops questionseverything Sep 2015 #11
I found a few I missed. Autumn Sep 2015 #13
Oh, you Scootaloo Sep 2015 #17
Right behind you. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #12
I know I saw that, I almost feel bad that so few Hillary supporters post positive Ops Autumn Sep 2015 #16
The celebrity endorsement ops are the saddest. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #19
AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service enigmatic Sep 2015 #35
Thanks for the results Autumn Sep 2015 #36
Have Mercy. n/t Aerows Sep 2015 #39
I am with you! hifiguy Sep 2015 #18
Ha Ha... malokvale77 Sep 2015 #25
This won't go over well mcar Sep 2015 #4
It hasn't. And as usual, it is absolutely hilarious watching the denial and desperate attempts Number23 Sep 2015 #28
GEORGE SOROS! PALIN SUPPORTER! BLM NEEDS TO BE MARGINALIZED! SonderWoman Sep 2015 #5
Thank you for the Camp Clinton input. Scootaloo Sep 2015 #7
Those were actual responses on DU from Camp Bernie. SonderWoman Sep 2015 #9
And yet they sound perfectly natural coming from you. Scootaloo Sep 2015 #14
who can forget the post to Hillary group that had the roguevalley Sep 2015 #23
Oh wow, I missed that one. malokvale77 Sep 2015 #31
you and me both, maolkvale77. I don't want to roguevalley Sep 2015 #33
Such a nice reply. malokvale77 Sep 2015 #37
Ben Gawzi! in 3, 2, 1 leftofcool Sep 2015 #20
Oh, so we're back to the "I like bernie but his supporters...!" yapping point Scootaloo Sep 2015 #6
No we're back to the cult meme. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #8
This sort of churning is best handled by pepto-bismol. Scootaloo Sep 2015 #10
They remind me of hoarders. beam me up scottie Sep 2015 #15
It's a grab bag. nt malokvale77 Sep 2015 #32
It's got a pattern I tell ya! JackInGreen Sep 2015 #41
I will support Hillary if she's the nominee. If Bernie is the nominee, though, what is the magnitude Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #21
I'll take 'ten pounds of PUMA' for 100$', that's what. roguevalley Sep 2015 #24
Maybe Chris Reeves should change his loyalties... malokvale77 Sep 2015 #34
I'm open to voting for someone other than Bernie. Just not Hillary. Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2015 #40
I support Bernie but his supporters are too enthusiastic Armstead Sep 2015 #42
Sanders vs Clinton is actually a very simple choice YabaDabaNoDinoNo Sep 2015 #43
I wish. Most people seem to be backing the corporations. raouldukelives Sep 2015 #45
Well folks is gonna get the gov they vote for, they want corporate politicians so be it YabaDabaNoDinoNo Sep 2015 #46
We live in the most democracy Wall St investors will allow. raouldukelives Sep 2015 #47
Oh I love these "Bernie supporters" delrem Sep 2015 #44

Autumn

(45,108 posts)
2. So are you saying we Bernie supporters are reccing the Bernie OPs a little too much?
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 07:30 PM
Sep 2015



Runs off to find a Bernie OP I might have missed reccing.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
12. Right behind you.
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 07:43 PM
Sep 2015

There are actually issues related ops in GD P but they're all from Sanders and O'Malley supporters.

Autumn

(45,108 posts)
16. I know I saw that, I almost feel bad that so few Hillary supporters post positive Ops
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 07:49 PM
Sep 2015

about her, and even fewer rec the ones that do. There are times I'm almost tempted to give them a pity rec. I guess Bernie must be more interesting because they just love spending all their time posting about Bernie or in this case Bernie's supporters.

enigmatic

(15,021 posts)
35. AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 08:41 PM
Sep 2015

I voted to LEAVE IT.

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I know I saw that, I almost feel bad that so few Hillary supporters post positive Ops
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malokvale77

(4,879 posts)
25. Ha Ha...
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 08:13 PM
Sep 2015

I just logged in a few minutes ago. Now I must find all the positive Bernie OPs to rec.

Go Bernie.

Number23

(24,544 posts)
28. It hasn't. And as usual, it is absolutely hilarious watching the denial and desperate attempts
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 08:19 PM
Sep 2015

to change the subject.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
7. Thank you for the Camp Clinton input.
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 07:39 PM
Sep 2015

Is this your personal view, or can we count you as a campaign spokesperson?

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
23. who can forget the post to Hillary group that had the
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 08:05 PM
Sep 2015

thread title, then this following (Normal People Group)

I find that the side that whines first and loudest is the side losing biggest. Tout your own candidate. Tell us why we should give a shit rather than pouting about how someone else has nicer things. Really ... whiners. So sad.

malokvale77

(4,879 posts)
31. Oh wow, I missed that one.
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 08:25 PM
Sep 2015

I've been working long hours.

Speaking of nicer things - The hope of nicer things is why I support Bernie Sanders.

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
33. you and me both, maolkvale77. I don't want to
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 08:33 PM
Sep 2015

die in a country with no hope railing at the sky in my chains. I have babies that need a bigger future than Hillary is prepared to give. Hugs to you and yours.

malokvale77

(4,879 posts)
37. Such a nice reply.
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 08:51 PM
Sep 2015

I'm old, so for me it is all about my children and grandchildren (great-grandchildren if the world becomes less hostile).

TY roguevalley for such a kind reply.

back-atcha to you and yours.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
6. Oh, so we're back to the "I like bernie but his supporters...!" yapping point
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 07:38 PM
Sep 2015

Seems a bit early. I thought this week was gonna be "Bernie's a racist" again?

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
15. They remind me of hoarders.
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 07:46 PM
Sep 2015

They just can't bear to part with those rotten old memes even though they stopped working a long time ago.


Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
21. I will support Hillary if she's the nominee. If Bernie is the nominee, though, what is the magnitude
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 07:58 PM
Sep 2015

of the shit-losing some of her DU supporters are going to experience?

Be honest, now.

malokvale77

(4,879 posts)
34. Maybe Chris Reeves should change his loyalties...
Fri Sep 18, 2015, 08:40 PM
Sep 2015

so he doesn't have to suffer such zealotry.

(a smiley I rarely use)

 

YabaDabaNoDinoNo

(460 posts)
43. Sanders vs Clinton is actually a very simple choice
Sat Sep 19, 2015, 06:26 AM
Sep 2015

Sanders = People

Clinton= Corporations

I choose PEOPLE and REJECT Corporations.

So do most sane people.

raouldukelives

(5,178 posts)
45. I wish. Most people seem to be backing the corporations.
Sat Sep 19, 2015, 08:29 AM
Sep 2015

They care about elections and democracy, up to a point. That point is Wall St investments.

The more wealth and individual backing Wall St has, the less democracy for all people.

 

YabaDabaNoDinoNo

(460 posts)
46. Well folks is gonna get the gov they vote for, they want corporate politicians so be it
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 05:15 AM
Sep 2015

they will just have to STFU when they get f-ed over by the corporations/wall street and their toadys in congress.

raouldukelives

(5,178 posts)
47. We live in the most democracy Wall St investors will allow.
Sun Sep 20, 2015, 07:54 AM
Sep 2015

The more backing and wealth corporations have, the less democracy we live in.

There are those who wear the badge of democracy proudly and there are those who invest against democracy for all people.

delrem

(9,688 posts)
44. Oh I love these "Bernie supporters"
Sat Sep 19, 2015, 06:46 AM
Sep 2015

I can predict these "Bernie supporters" as in queue the music time.

I've seen so much of Hillary already, this primary. The "Bernie supporters" are the best of them.

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