2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumFrom Daily KOS, article from a Bernie Supporter:
"The Zealotry is Getting Out of Hand"
Author: Chris Reeves's Profile:
http://www.dailykos.com/user/Chris%20Reeves
Full Disclosure: I have attended numerous "Bernie" events. I was also at the rally and Netroots Nation in Phoenix, and I have donated money to those who are working on behalf of Bernie and the campaign.
While that is true, I'm finding that the commentary of several - not all - supporters of Bernie Sanders is not nearly as informative - and sometimes intellectually dishonest - in a way that is not making for a battle of ideas, but rather a demonizing of those who do not support Bernie as much as you do. It is also running over those ideas and important issues while we fill up the REC list with generic daily BERNIE IS AWESOME! material while many great stories that need attention should get them."
This morning, during a conference call, the joke came up that in order to get attention, the quickest way was to put BERNIE! in some fashion in their title. While I am all for rah-rah we support Bernie as a Bernie supporter, too much of this has also turned into: "Hillary is SO unacceptable I will quit if X" or "Hillary is borderline evil" which several comments have filled with seeming scorn of Hillary supporters.
While I support Bernie, I have no problem saying I would gladly, happily vote for Hillary in a general election. Her stances on many issues are VERY progressive, and her direct track record includes something I can't forget: by all accounts, her work on helping select and manage judges for the Clinton administration brought us names who have shaped the courts we have in a very positive way. Does anyone doubt that the selection of Ruth Bader Ginsburg is a significant moment for progressives? Or that the choices made to go away from insider "preferred" picks - like George Mitchell?
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http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/07/29/1406873/-As-a-Bernie-Supporter-The-Zealotry-is-Getting-Out-of-Hand
cali
(114,904 posts)beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)She appreciates the announcer's comments!
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)Ino
(3,366 posts)just because she's Hillary, and Bernie's not.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251604135
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)i am in awe.
LWolf
(46,179 posts)Autumn
(45,108 posts)Runs off to find a Bernie OP I might have missed reccing.
questionseverything
(9,656 posts)Autumn
(45,108 posts)Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)There are actually issues related ops in GD P but they're all from Sanders and O'Malley supporters.
Autumn
(45,108 posts)about her, and even fewer rec the ones that do. There are times I'm almost tempted to give them a pity rec. I guess Bernie must be more interesting because they just love spending all their time posting about Bernie or in this case Bernie's supporters.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)I stay out of them because it's too easy.
enigmatic
(15,021 posts)I voted to LEAVE IT.
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On Fri Sep 18, 2015, 06:53 PM an alert was sent on the following post:
I know I saw that, I almost feel bad that so few Hillary supporters post positive Ops
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=605053
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Is it really necessary to personally attack all the supporters of a candidate. This is just a divisive post.
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Explanation: This isn't referring any individual so I don't see this a personal attack.
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Autumn
(45,108 posts)Aerows
(39,961 posts)hifiguy
(33,688 posts)malokvale77
(4,879 posts)I just logged in a few minutes ago. Now I must find all the positive Bernie OPs to rec.
Go Bernie.
mcar
(42,334 posts)Number23
(24,544 posts)to change the subject.
SonderWoman
(1,169 posts)Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)Is this your personal view, or can we count you as a campaign spokesperson?
SonderWoman
(1,169 posts)Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)roguevalley
(40,656 posts)thread title, then this following (Normal People Group)
I find that the side that whines first and loudest is the side losing biggest. Tout your own candidate. Tell us why we should give a shit rather than pouting about how someone else has nicer things. Really ... whiners. So sad.
malokvale77
(4,879 posts)I've been working long hours.
Speaking of nicer things - The hope of nicer things is why I support Bernie Sanders.
roguevalley
(40,656 posts)die in a country with no hope railing at the sky in my chains. I have babies that need a bigger future than Hillary is prepared to give. Hugs to you and yours.
malokvale77
(4,879 posts)I'm old, so for me it is all about my children and grandchildren (great-grandchildren if the world becomes less hostile).
TY roguevalley for such a kind reply.
back-atcha to you and yours.
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)Seems a bit early. I thought this week was gonna be "Bernie's a racist" again?
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)They're churning, trying to keep it fresh.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)They just can't bear to part with those rotten old memes even though they stopped working a long time ago.
malokvale77
(4,879 posts)JackInGreen
(2,975 posts)Like...nope, lost it.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)of the shit-losing some of her DU supporters are going to experience?
Be honest, now.
roguevalley
(40,656 posts)malokvale77
(4,879 posts)so he doesn't have to suffer such zealotry.
(a smiley I rarely use)
Tierra_y_Libertad
(50,414 posts)Armstead
(47,803 posts)Hookay
YabaDabaNoDinoNo
(460 posts)Sanders = People
Clinton= Corporations
I choose PEOPLE and REJECT Corporations.
So do most sane people.
raouldukelives
(5,178 posts)They care about elections and democracy, up to a point. That point is Wall St investments.
The more wealth and individual backing Wall St has, the less democracy for all people.
YabaDabaNoDinoNo
(460 posts)they will just have to STFU when they get f-ed over by the corporations/wall street and their toadys in congress.
raouldukelives
(5,178 posts)The more backing and wealth corporations have, the less democracy we live in.
There are those who wear the badge of democracy proudly and there are those who invest against democracy for all people.
delrem
(9,688 posts)I can predict these "Bernie supporters" as in queue the music time.
I've seen so much of Hillary already, this primary. The "Bernie supporters" are the best of them.