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RandySF

(59,772 posts)
Mon Oct 5, 2015, 12:59 AM Oct 2015

Hillary to call for end of legal immunity for gun manufacturers and dealers.

Finally, Clinton will call for a repeal of the legal immunity that gun manufacturers and dealers currently enjoy under a 2005 law called the Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act. This could be the most politically provocative of the four proposals. Not only is the immunity a prized possession of the NRA, but it is something that Sanders voted for while a member of the House of Representatives. Clinton, who was a senator representing New York at the time, voted against it.

Sanders has defended his vote by arguing that the alternative would be akin to punishing a hammer-maker if someone used a hammer as a weapon. But gun control advocates argue that the law opens the door to negligent manufacturers who don't fear being penalized when their firearms flood a community or market.

Clinton’s gun control push doesn’t appear to be an attempt to out-progressive Sanders so much as a thorough rethinking of how to patch up a hole-laden system of gun laws.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/hillary-clinton-gun-control_5611d70ae4b0dd85030c6b3b?9lpojemi

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Hillary to call for end of legal immunity for gun manufacturers and dealers. (Original Post) RandySF Oct 2015 OP
If she does that artislife Oct 2015 #1
Good. The PLCAA is a craven gift to the gun industry. nt SunSeeker Oct 2015 #2
Thank you Hillary. You got guts riversedge Oct 2015 #3
It won't happen because six exceptions for immunity are already in the PLCAA. ancianita Oct 2015 #4
Here's were Sanders stands with corporations and I say again that no candidate can throw stones uponit7771 Oct 2015 #5
K&R. WTG, Hillary! lunamagica Oct 2015 #6
She really had her people dig for that one. Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2015 #7
Good for you, Hillary! leftofcool Oct 2015 #8
Hmmm. This is interesting. Midnight Writer Oct 2015 #9
Political Pandering EdwardBernays Oct 2015 #10
Those focus groups sure help, eh? Katashi_itto Oct 2015 #11
Yeah right. That's gonna happen. 99Forever Oct 2015 #12
 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
1. If she does that
Mon Oct 5, 2015, 01:07 AM
Oct 2015

it will be the most ballsy thing she has done. And it would chip away some of the timidness she has shown in actually standing in action for something that is out of step with conventional wisdom.

I like the other things, too.

ancianita

(36,225 posts)
4. It won't happen because six exceptions for immunity are already in the PLCAA.
Mon Oct 5, 2015, 01:20 AM
Oct 2015

She won't get anything but media coverage for a promise she won't be able to deliver on.

uponit7771

(90,371 posts)
5. Here's were Sanders stands with corporations and I say again that no candidate can throw stones
Mon Oct 5, 2015, 02:39 AM
Oct 2015

... good for Hillary

Midnight Writer

(21,855 posts)
9. Hmmm. This is interesting.
Mon Oct 5, 2015, 04:17 AM
Oct 2015

The fact that we had to pass a special law to protect gun manufacturers and dealers is in itself an indicator of how vulnerable they are to civil liabilities.

Just as automakers are now so much more mindful of their liabilities (witness the rash of recalls and the new commitment to quality control), perhaps if negligent and malicious gun marketeers are held to the same standards of civil responsibility as every other citizen and business we can see change. If we can sue a bar for over serving a customer who has clearly over indulged to the point of endangering themselves and others, then we can surely find a legal standard of liability for over serving the gun fanatic.

Now if we can just apply the same standards to bankers and money managers and financial advisers.

EdwardBernays

(3,343 posts)
10. Political Pandering
Mon Oct 5, 2015, 04:30 AM
Oct 2015

This will do almost nothing to stop the deaths of 30,000 a year.

Sanders, btw., is also offering no solutions... and I would be a big Bernie fan... I just don't buy that any US politician is offering any meaningful solutions.

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