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If Obama Wins Any One of These States: VA, OH, NC, or FLA, Then... (Original Post) Yavin4 Aug 2012 OP
well, he actually can win without any of those states: WI_DEM Aug 2012 #1
Nate Silver's most recent projections JenniferJuniper Aug 2012 #4
I play around on the "270towin.com" site, and- you are overall correct. richmwill Aug 2012 #2
Make it so, DU. FSogol Aug 2012 #3
election may well be decided by unprovable electronic vote machine rigging nt msongs Aug 2012 #5
there are many paths to 270 for Obama cheezmaka Aug 2012 #6
Yes--that's what I came up with ailsagirl Aug 2012 #7
The fact is he has a much better shot at winning 270 in a close race. hrmjustin Aug 2012 #8
Obama has way more paths to 270 than Romney has. JoePhilly Aug 2012 #9
Assuming Obama gets all Gore state (excluding FL) fujiyama Aug 2012 #10
no republican has EVER Dustin DeWinde Aug 2012 #11
welcome to DU and you are correct grantcart Aug 2012 #12
thanx Dustin DeWinde Aug 2012 #13
That assumes his supporters actually get to vote TrogL Aug 2012 #14

WI_DEM

(33,497 posts)
1. well, he actually can win without any of those states:
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 03:25 PM
Aug 2012

If he wins traditionally blue states plus IA, NH and western states like CO, NM & NV--he will have 272 electoral votes.

Obama has several paths to 270--Romney doesn't.

JenniferJuniper

(4,512 posts)
4. Nate Silver's most recent projections
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 04:06 PM
Aug 2012

NH - 72.0% chance of an Obama win.
IA - 65.6% chance of an Obama win.
CO - 63.5% chance of an Obama win.
NV - 78.3% chance of an Obama win.
NM - 91.3 % chance of an Obama win.

richmwill

(1,326 posts)
2. I play around on the "270towin.com" site, and- you are overall correct.
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 03:26 PM
Aug 2012

Romney could win all 4 and still not win, however at that point it all comes down to what NH, WI, IA, CO, and NV do. Romney gets OH, VA, FL, and NC and any of those states listed in the first part of this post, he wins. If Obama wins any of the 4 you listed, then it's obviously very good for his chances but he still needs some help from the first group. Most of those states lean Dem though.

cheezmaka

(737 posts)
6. there are many paths to 270 for Obama
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 06:45 PM
Aug 2012

but if Obama wins FL and OH he will have a SOLID win. These two states will give him 270 even if the "rest" of the BATTLEGROUND states were RED. (go to LA times: Predict a winner "Battleground States&quot

 

hrmjustin

(71,265 posts)
8. The fact is he has a much better shot at winning 270 in a close race.
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 08:55 PM
Aug 2012

but if the trends go more towards ne direction then the states will follow.

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
9. Obama has way more paths to 270 than Romney has.
Tue Aug 7, 2012, 10:12 PM
Aug 2012

The media does not want to talk about it ... it ruins their "its neck and neck" meme.

fujiyama

(15,185 posts)
10. Assuming Obama gets all Gore state (excluding FL)
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 12:49 AM
Aug 2012

Last edited Wed Aug 8, 2012, 01:29 AM - Edit history (1)

he will need to take NV, NH, and CO. Recent polls show him leading in all three...Granted, IA was very close in '00 (and Kerry actually lost it by a small margin)...but does anyone see a Gore or Kerry state flipping at this point?

I hadn't realized how truly awful and difficult it is for Romney until playing around with the maps...Unless there is a truly disastrous turnout on the part of Democrats, Romney needs to run the map. It makes it worse for him that Obama has led most polls in the other large swing states (with the exception of NC and FL being consistently close)...

Still, I think the republicans are motivated by hate. They really despise Obama. So there are still some real challenges.

Dustin DeWinde

(193 posts)
11. no republican has EVER
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 01:28 AM
Aug 2012

won the Presidency without winnig Ohio. Obama leads Romney by six points in Ohio. Just saying....

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
12. welcome to DU and you are correct
Wed Aug 8, 2012, 01:58 AM
Aug 2012

If Romney doesn't take Ohio then it is almost impossible to see how he makes it.
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