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ClarkJonathanKent

(91 posts)
Fri Oct 23, 2015, 10:01 PM Oct 2015

Observations from the front lines....

I am a mailman in Gainesville, Fl where the University of Florida is located. Although the college kids are very liberal, most of the population here is not. As a mailman, I talk with a wide variety of people on a daily basis, and because I have been at the job for less than two years I do a different route almost every day and speak to people across the whole town. As such, I felt compelled to share with all of you a few observations I have made over the past 6 months.

From what I can see, I think Bernie is going to win the primary, and then the Presidency. I see probably 20 Bernie Sanders yard signs a day, and zero Hillary signs. I haven't seen any Hillary signs in 6 months. That says something to me. Enthusiasm plays a big part in winning a primary obviously, and Bernie supporters have most of the energy. Hillary supporters may like her a lot with their brains, but I know several that aren't even going to vote in the primary and I think it is because Hillary doesn't inspire them or appeal to their hope.

I saw a person the other day with some Hillary stickers on her bumper, and Bernie stickers on the back facing part of her trunk. I asked her what the deal was, and she said that she used to be for Hillary, but has decided to vote for Bernie in the primary. If he loses the primary, she will vote Hillary. Fortunately, 99% of the people I have spoken with will vote Democrat no matter who the nominee is. And some of these people are former Republican voters. Bernie did an amazing thing, and not a lot of people are recognizing this. A lot of policies appeal to old-school Goldwater Republicans, which there are still many. Those people finally pulled their heads out their asses regarding the CURRENT Republican party, and were enticed by what Bernie was saying. Now that they finally considered a "liberal," the realized that Democratic policies nowadays actually more closely resemble traditional Republicanism, at least more than the current Republican party does. People that haven't voted Democratic in ages are practically eager to vote Democratic this time. I have several theories on why old people like him, but regardless, they like him, and most don't like Hillary, usually for dumb reasons.

He has the support of young people. I don't know the average age of a DU poster, but I am 34. Most of the people I hang out with are approximately 45 years old, but due to my fiance's job, I socialize with many people in their late teens to late 20's. Bernie is, by far, the preferred candidate among all these different age groups. College kids love him. Period. Most of them will not even consider Hillary. As for the people in their mid-twenties to mid-thirties, literally every one I know is going to vote for Bernie in the primary. Many of them are even changing their party affiliation just so they can vote for him in the primary, as many of them were previously No Party Affiliation or Green Party. Most of these people will vote for Hillary if she wins, but they are doing every thing they can to prevent that. As for the people in their 40's, most of these people are hippies artists, so it isn't surprising that they prefer Bernie. I suspect marijuana legalization is a big reason for that.

Whatever their individual reasons, Bernie seems to be the only candidate I hear people talking about in my real life. Six months ago, I was the only person in my sphere talking about him. Now, everyone is. Additionally, I have it on good authority that the Postal union will be endorsing Bernie Sanders very soon, which isn't surprising, but is surely welcome. Just wanted to add my two cents for any Democrats that aren't feeling pumped for this coming election cycle! Have a good weekend everyone.



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snagglepuss

(12,704 posts)
2. You have a terrific writing style. Very engaging. Thanks for
Fri Oct 23, 2015, 10:18 PM
Oct 2015

posting your observations and welcome to DU


Go Bernie Go

 

Doctor_J

(36,392 posts)
4. Thanks for the update
Fri Oct 23, 2015, 10:57 PM
Oct 2015

In the rural area where I am, I think Hillary would lose to the republican but Sanders would have a good chance of winning. I am seeing plenty of Sanders bumper stickers, a few Carson, and that's it. We will see.

 

CheshireDog

(63 posts)
5. I think Bernie supporters are more vocal
Fri Oct 23, 2015, 11:03 PM
Oct 2015

Florida is really fertile ground for Hillary - older, more moderate Democrats and a lot of Hispanics. There was a recent poll of Florida and its really no contest there right now. Hillary is way ahead

 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
6. Quote "A lot of policies appeal to old-school Goldwater Republicans" KJK
Fri Oct 23, 2015, 11:08 PM
Oct 2015

Yes, I see it, too.

Especially one old-school Goldwater Republican---Hillary. She has been shifting her stand on issues for the last two weeks.

He is really good and appealing.


Thanks for the OP!

LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
7. K&R - I suggest you
Fri Oct 23, 2015, 11:08 PM
Oct 2015

check out the Bernie Sanders group here (in case you haven't already) click on Democrats under the Topics list on the left.

SandersDem

(592 posts)
9. I really needed that right now!
Fri Oct 23, 2015, 11:32 PM
Oct 2015

TY TY TY TY TY!!!!

I listened to a little bit of Hillary today and it just sounded like the words were simple cookie cutter nothingness.

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
10. The problem is you are in a "university town" which probably differs significantly
Fri Oct 23, 2015, 11:41 PM
Oct 2015

from the rest of the country (and even from the rest of Florida).

Note the polling from Florida:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/fl/florida_democratic_presidential_primary-3556.html

Thanks for the interesting post.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
15. Sanders support absolutely never counts
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 02:09 AM
Oct 2015

Funny how that works. No matter what, someone comes out to wave your arms and go "nope! doesn't count, nothing to see!"

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
17. Of course it counts, the question is in the "how much" counting.
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 02:23 AM
Oct 2015

Supporters of a candidate almost always think polls are wrong and their candidate is really doing
better than the polls show.

I like to be reality based though. Perhaps I take a more critical view of the "everyone I know is for"
posts because of that time I thought Michael Dukakis was going to be the next President because
all I ever saw were Dukakis for President signs. It turned out that my view was skewed as I lived
in a Greek neighborhood though.

Puppyjive

(508 posts)
13. Power of the People
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 12:55 AM
Oct 2015

I think Hilary is winning in the minds of those who control the media. But Bernie is winning the hearts of the American people because he embraces everyone. We want a change from the status quo in politics. The media should never underestimate the power of the people. Our paychecks are not signed by big pharma or billionaires.

BeanMusical

(4,389 posts)
14. "There Really Are Republicans for Bernie"
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 02:08 AM
Oct 2015
So who are these Republicans who want a very left independent for President? Take Darren Remington, age 49, from Memphis, Tennessee. He is a college graduate and ex-military, registered Republican in 1994 when he left the Air Force, and describes himself this way:

“I am an Eisenhower Conservative. My personal outlook is most closely aligned with that of three presidents (two Republican, one Democrat): Teddy Roosevelt (“Square Deal”), Truman (“the buck stops here”), and Eisenhower (five balanced budgets out of eight, understood that we must have adequate infrastructure to support a thriving economy).”

And why is Remington for Bernie Sanders?

“He’s an independent who has spoken up for veterans’ issues, rebuilding a strong middle class, and re-introducing the “common sense” that Thomas Paine wrote about into our modern government. Bernie Sanders seems to me to be to the 21st Century what Teddy Roosevelt was to the 20th Century.”

And does the word “socialist” bother him?

“I will support anyone who not only “talks the talk” but also “walks the walk” regarding the issues that I consider to be important. With that in mind, the phrase “democratic socialist” does not bother me—because I happen to know that two of the most prosperous nations in Europe are “democratic socialist” (Denmark & Sweden.) There is nothing intrinsically wrong with“socialism”—all effective government is socialist to some degree: Public Education; Public works (utilities and roads); Public institutions such as museums, theaters, and libraries. Social involvement does NOT equate to control of society.”


https://www.laprogressive.com/republicans-for-sanders/

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
18. It's not that surprising that there are many Republicans that a fed up with politicians
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 02:27 AM
Oct 2015

and their party specifically and are looking for a real change. Sanders is certainly the major
candidate offering the biggest change from the status quo.

TheFarS1de

(1,017 posts)
19. That is the part of the political spectrum ...
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 02:39 AM
Oct 2015

that will either help slingshot Sanders into office or prove to be Clinton's Achilles heel imo .

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