If Hillary wins the election the transition team will give the first indication of how

[JRLeft]

she will govern if it's Wall Streeters we're fucked but if she hires progressives that will give us an indication she's changed. The cabinet is confirmation.

[villager]

1. Was thinking the same thing -- we knew how little "hope and change" we were actually in for...

...once the first raft of cabinet appointments was announced last time...

[SheilaT]

2. And of course we'll have to wait until

after the election to find out if it's Wall Streeters or real progressive. I don't think I want to take that chance. I'd rather support and vote for someone I already know is a genuine progressive who will do everything he can to make life better for the 99%.

[JRLeft]

5. I agree with you, but it is likely she wins. I'm not saying it's a lock

but at the moment it's close. I will keep fighting until it's over. I will vote for Hillary, but I won't donate to her or the party.

[SheilaT]

9. I get so freaking tired of

the Inevitable Hillary bullshit that I could scream.

I keep on remembering -- do you remember that really nice African American in 2008 who was silly enough to think he could run for President? He was a newly elected Senator, had a weird name. Of course, it was obvious to the most casual observer that the country wasn't even remotely ready for a Black President. Wonder whatever happened to him.

It's the same thing now. Hillary is too old in important ways that have nothing to do with the fact that she's several years younger than Senator Sanders. She has somewhat limited experience on Capitol Hill herself, and her time as Secretary of State does not leave me with a warm and fuzzy feeling. She'd continue and probably even expand our wars around the globe, and then totally buy into the idea that we can't afford Medicare and Social Security at the current rates. I don't trust her not to shrink them as much as the Republicans want. I don't trust her to stand up to their insistence at cutting taxes for the wealthy. In short, I see very little genuine good coming out of a Clinton 2 Presidency. She'd be better than the extremes of Republicans currently running, but even that is not saying much.

[JRLeft]

12. Oh I agree, but with the media pretty much ignoring Bernie his uphill

climb is steeper than Obama add in the fact he's an outsider and you have Bernie's situation. Not mention his wanting to make major changes to industry.

[artislife]

20. At this moment

I cannot see me voting for her.


At all.


But my heart might heal by the time November rolls around.

might do, could happen, can't know yet.

[winter is coming]

3. I see no reason, none, to believe she's changed.

And no reason to gamble on it, either, with Sanders in the race.

[Half-Century Man]

4. When to find out the bottom is shallow and rocky is before diving in, not after. nt

[treestar]

6. I saw this one applied to Obama, too

They just want to get the ball rolling and get the job done, not create popularity contests and give jobs for political reasons rather than who is qualified to do the job.

[JRLeft]

7. I knew we were bamboozled when he selected a bunch of Wall Streeters to his

transition team.

[treestar]

10. you expect us to immediately label people "Wall Streeters"

and the means what? They are only taking on a job that the President is in charge of. Obama got a lot of crap from the right for appointing "communists" too. Are you not ready to praise him for appointment of Communists?

It's hilarious how we are to hate people and suspect them simply for having experience in finance. Not in the real world.

[JRLeft]

13. Larry Summers, Timothy Geithner, Ben Bernanke.

[treestar]

14. So these people did what?

They did a job they were qualified to do.

And you ignored my point about the communists. I talk to right wingers, and learned from them that Obama also appointed communists. Please give Obama credit for appointing these communists. It makes about as much sense (well less, since right wingers have less sense). One of these was named Van Jones. I was assured by my right wingers this proved Obama is a communist. Indeed, Obama has turned us into a Marxist State.

[JRLeft]

17. The Republican establishment doesn't believe that, why do you think Obama and Boehner golfed

regularly? Obama wanted the grand bargain, and so did the GOP establishment, but the crazies hated anything he did. By the way the grand bargain big pile of austerity.

I don't vote people because tea baggers hate them, I vote for candidates who represent me.

[treestar]

19. We vote for candidates to represent us

all together. The idea I could find one to represent "me" is beyond my comprehension. I'm not that egotistical. Whoever is in office gets to consider others besides me.

And some of those others insist Obama has turned us into a Marxist State. Well good. It is nice to listen to the opposition sometimes. You realize you are winning.

[imthevicar]

15. Followed By.

OH Shit we should have voted for Sanders.

[Avalux]

8. If she wins, we're fucked. There's no way she'll go against Wall Street.

Hillary Clinton will do nothing to change the status quo.

[artislife]

21. I don't see her changing into

something wonderful.

[AgingAmerican]

11. It will be time to pay the piper

[Bernblu]

16. She will hire the Wall Street guys.

Is their any doubt about it??? It's what the 3rd way Democrats do. We should not be politically blind and naive. I say to Hillary supporters vote for Hillary if you must but do so knowing full well that she will fully support Wall Street. Do not insult my intelligence as a Sanders supporter and tell me she will be a progressive. She has been DLCer and is now a third way Democrat and is only progressive on social issues and even then she follows behind the populace.

[JRLeft]

18. Some will tell you she just wants to get things done.

[jfern]

22. Of course it'll be Wall Streeters

Look at Larry Summers and the like getting very prominent roles.

[JRLeft]

24. Her campaign chair John Podesta is a charter school hack.

[zappaman]

23. Ok. n/t