The Hill: "Clinton camp: Sanders engaging in negative attacks"

[99th_Monkey]

This article accuses Bernie of "reneging on his pledge not to engage in negative political attacks";
but what Bernie said he wouldn't do is engage in "personal" attacks, not that he would never
point out their differences on issues, so voters are not left completely in the dark about them.

On the gun thing, seems to me Bernie was actually talking about how too few candidates and people in general,
are rolling up their sleeves to do the hard work of engaging in constructive dialogue to cultivate a sufficient
consensus on a set of policies to reduce gun violence in ways that both sides agree will help.

And for that he gets personally attacked by Hillary for being "a misogynist", which is patently absurd
and over-the-top ugly. But hey, Hills gets a pass on that, while Bernie's accused of doing the very thing Hillary
is doing.
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Clinton camp: Sanders engaging in negative attacks
By Bradford Richardson * The Hill * 10/25/15

The chairman of Hillary Clinton’s presidential campaign says Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) has reneged on his pledge not to engage in negative political attacks.

John Podesta said Sanders went on the offensive against Clinton in his speech at the Iowa Democratic Party’s Jefferson Jackson dinner on Saturday.
“I think Bernie Sanders seemed to have a course correction in the [Jefferson Jackson] dinner from one in which he said he wasn’t going to go negative to – to obviously focusing his, you know, his fire on her,” Podesta said on ABC’s “This Week” on Sunday.

Podesta said Clinton, on the other hand, refrained from partisanship and focused on painting a positive vision for the future of America in her speech.

“I think she’s looking to the future,” he said. “I think her speech last night really put forward a positive vision of where the country can be.”

Clinton appeared to accuse Sanders of sexism in her speech at the dinner.

She said she was told to stop “shouting about gun violence,” quoting Sanders.

“Well, first of all, I’m not shouting. It’s just when women talk some people think we’re shouting,” Clinton said.

Sanders is disputing that allegation.

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/258044-clinton-camp-sanders-engaging-in-negative-attacks

[JaneyVee]

1. What else can he do with his polls numbers stagnant, if not receding?

[RobertEarl]

3. Clinton's are crybabies

Lets hope they grow up soon. And then their supporters get some smarts.

[MohRokTah]

6. I've got no problem with these negative attacks. In fact, I welcome them.

They prove he is willing to make himself a liar because his campaign is desperate now.

[RobertEarl]

22. You calling Bernie a liar?

That's the type of reaction that we hear from crybabies all the time.

Void of facts, just shouting words, is what we've come to expect from certain factions who are upset there is no coronation.

[MohRokTah]

23. Yep, he LIED.

That makes him just another Washington insider politician, and nothing more.

[RobertEarl]

60. Your opinion is worth nothing

The insider politician is Hillary, who is reduced to complaining that someone claims she is shouting.

[Skidmore]

95. Sanders is a career politician

in Washington. He's not an outsider no matter how much he tries to pose as one.

[Armstead]

147. Pssst. I think people realize that.

[Skidmore]

151. Do they?

It's hard to tell sometimes.

[Armstead]

155. Anyone who doesnt realize he's been a Senator and long term Congressman has been living in a cave.

And anyone who doesn't understand that means being on the "inside" in one respect is dumb.

And most think that's a good thing, in terms of experience. And if he knows how to work the system, so much the better.

But the question of whether he's been a member of "the club" who do the bidding of the wealthy and powerful, and cycle through the revolving door....That's another mattr

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

92. Then you are either ill-informed, or a liar yourself.

[John Poet]

162. +1 !!!

Wait, didn't you get the memo? The primaries have been cancelled... again...

[Politicalboi]

24. LOL!

He's not desperate, he's telling the truth. Can't help the truth is looked at as attacking Hillary. Sniper fire ANYONE??????

Bernie is not the liar, it is Hillary time and time again.

[MohRokTah]

28. He's desperate. He just had the worst week he has ever had in any campaign.

His campaign is floundering. At best, his numbers are stagnant while his main opponent rises every day in the polls.

He promised he would never go negative, now he's gone negative.

He's desperate.

[azmom]

36. You sound desperate. Stop complaining.

You are no victim.

[MohRokTah]

42. Who's complaining!

This is the best proof that Hillary is a shoe-in for the nomination yet!

I am GLAD Sanders is a liar!!!

[Kentonio]

54. Disgusting attack against one of the parties two candidates.

If something causes Mrs Clintons campaign to fail now, you've just spat on the next Dem nominee, and a deeply principled and good man. I hope you're very proud of yourself.

[azmom]

59. How do you feel about Hillary being a liar?

Cause I hate that.

[BeanMusical]

79. Lol, you're absolutely hilarious.

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

96. You sound very desperate

Bernie doesn't lie. Hillary does it quite often.

[Politicalboi]

62. No he's not

Just pointing out the difference between Bernie and Hillary is NOT an attack. The more people hear about Bernie, the more Bernie Rebels are created.

[azmom]

31. The truth hurts sometimes. Sorry, but

Hillary needs to own her record.

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

94. Hillary CAN'T HANDLE the truth!

[Fawke Em]

91. Comparing records isn't an "attack."

Period.

It's what candidates should do.

He didn't call her names, but she called him one. She's the attack dog here.

[SusanCalvin]

115. Exactly. nt

[modestybl]

130. Unless, of course, Hillary wants to go the vulnerable little girl route...

... and play victim anytime someone questions her ACTUAL record (as opposed to the clown car spectacle she was gifted with this past week).

[99th_Monkey]

11. Yes, sticking to conversing on issues voters care deeply about is Bernie's forte

and has been from day one.

Do you expect Bernie to stop talking about key issues of his campaign, just because
Hillary started mimicking Bernie's positions on a whole string of key issues?

Ever changing position on issues, based on polls and public opinion not personal conviction,
is increasingly becoming Hillary's trademark.

[jkbRN]

12. Have you seen the polls out today?

You should really pause, and take a closer look.

[workinclasszero]

13. Reeks of desperation

Bernie sees the writing on the wall just like we do.

He is a smart man that doesn't believe in magic clickbait polls.

He can see he's goin down. So now he gets desperate.

Attacks against Hillary and the democratic party will be escalating.

[Politicalboi]

34. Again LOL!

So much time for Hillary's numbers to sink, and they will.

Bernie is a working class hero, Hillary got everything handed to her.

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

97. Nice that they live in their own Hillary fantasy world

I hope their heads don't explode somewhere down the line in the next several months.

[kristopher]

129. ?

https://www.ijreview.com/2015/10/449123-prez-candidate-seeing-biggest-uptick-favorability-answer-will-surprise-conservatives/

[840high]

144. He's picking on me. Vote for me. I am a woman.

[haikugal]

2. Yeah, Clinton and her victim schtick...

I'd clutch my pearls if I had any....lol

[MohRokTah]

4. Yet Sanders supporters deny he is doing this because if he is doing this, he lied to them.

This is a sign of desperation in the Sanders campaign.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

9. He said no personal attacks but he would on the issues

[MohRokTah]

10. HE lied. eom

[Ed Suspicious]

15. Did he?

[workinclasszero]

16. Flip flop

The Messiah has fallen to earth.

So sad.

[MohRokTah]

18. Just another Washington politician.

Oh how the sainted have defiled themselves.

[azmom]

40. Liar and a flip flopper, yeah that would be

Your candidate. And Bernie pointing out her record is valid.

[jkbRN]

20. You again,

If he lied, so did Hillary (after she said she would not attack him). Moreover her attacks were based on comments he made, that had nothing to do with her. But, she went on to frame the comment and capatilize on misconstruing his comments. He pointed out the differences on their voting records--when using your theories, please make sure to apply them to all candidates.

[99th_Monkey]

33. ANYthing Bernie says now on issues, that contrasts with Hillary, is ipso facto an "attack"

BUT when Hillary calls Bernie a "misogynist", she gets a pass because ...well, just because.

Ha, like no one's supposed to notice these glaring disparities & flip-flops?

[Rosa Luxemburg]

26. so you think highlighting policy difference is a personal attack?

[MohRokTah]

32. He went negative after promising he wouldn't.

He's a desperate liar now.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

37. There's nothing negative about policy differences

so what is he going to say - yes Hillary you were right to vote for the Iraq war.

[Ed Suspicious]

44. That would be a positive attack.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

46. LOL!

[malokvale77]

143. So you think her policy stances are negatives.

I agree.

[Oilwellian]

156. Indeed

I can just see the next headline! "Clinton Camp Cries Foul On Bernie For Discussing Her Negative Policy Positions"

[Rosa Luxemburg]

30. Lied on what?

[Fawke Em]

98. No. He didn't. You need to use a rag and wipe your glasses.

“I’ve known Hillary for 25 years. I am not going to be waging personal attacks against her. We differ on issues, and those are the areas that I’ll be focusing on,” Sanders said.

http://www.msnbc.com/andrea-mitchell/sanders-i-wont-wage-personal-attacks-hillary-clinton

[99th_Monkey]

14. Exactly!!! but as we see, Clintonistas insist on having it both ways

they just want Bernie to STFU, period; ESPECIALLY about their differences on issues,
and when they arrived at those positions ON ISSUES (not personal attacks),

[SusanCalvin]

119. Exactly.

Reminds me of this other political par.... oh, wait - can't say that.....

[Live and Learn]

5. LOL Hillary thinks everything is about her.

And she is always being picked on because she is a woman. Poor Hillary.

[Robbins]

7. Oh jesus

saying he has been consenst and she isn't is not neagtive attacks.and her camp started it.

if you think bernie is being negative just wait for republicans.Hopefully it will be bernie instead of her facing trump.

[ucrdem]

8. That Guardian headline is gonna leave a mark:

"Sanders tears into Clinton's ambitions and record at Iowa Democrat fundraiser"

True or not, the Guardian is generally seen as reliable and that one's not gonna go away.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

17. One of the Vermont senator's greatest assets was that he was above negative campaigning.

eom

[ucrdem]

27. It seemed to be one of his calling cards.

Frankly he's done little else, but yeah that was the perception, and it appears the Clinton campaign has decided to put it to rest. Well, it's not like he didn't make his own bed, so it's hard to feel sorry for him, but this isn't going to be pretty.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

64. I suspect this is the handiwork of Tad Devine...He did wonders for President Gore.

Watching Team Clinton in action I can assure you they will respond to these attacks with the same adroitness they responded to all the previous attacks on them, the lion's share of which ended in tears for the attackers...

It will be watching General Eisenhower against Corporal Agarn.

[workinclasszero]

111. Was is right

Now we will get to see Bernie in full attack mode against democrats.

A favorite target of Bernie apparently

[ucrdem]

114. Clinton Foundation, TPP, Keystone, NAFTA, and before that TARP, drones, chained CPI, the works

yeah he's been playing this game for decades.

[workinclasszero]

124. Then why does Bernie seek the democratic

nomination of a party he so obviously hates?

I don't get it.

Just bald naked ambition for the presidency?

[ucrdem]

131. Head scratcher.

All I can figure is he's listening to the wrong people.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

118. Well, he hasn't been one long enough for the ink to dry on the papers.

Maybe that has something to do with it...


In any case I am sure Team Clinton has a plan.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

25. Bernie is Bernie he's not going to change

He doesn't believe in personal attacks but he believes in outlining differences between other candidates not just Democrats.

[ucrdem]

43. Could be,

but realistically, having Bernie out there "being Bernie" about Clinton foundation donations etc is a problem.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

45. talking about someone else's donations is not being negative

[ucrdem]

52. It's a problem.

It probably isn't going to get mentioned in this particular fracas but I imagine it's the actual issue.

[hootinholler]

72. How so?

Any candidates ambitions and record seems like fair game to me.

[ucrdem]

108. That's what Trey thought too. nt

[Thinkingabout]

19. Sanders opened the door, not only about the shouting (which I did not know was an issue)

But he has also brought up her spouse which opens the door to talking about the spouses. These was not the first time but we let it go.

[zalinda]

135. It wasn't an issue

until it was twisted by Hillary's people. He SAID, that if people would stop shouting on both sides that maybe something could be done about it. He wasn't quoting her at all. It was all about the repubs and dems shouting at each other.

Z

[Thinkingabout]

152. Twisted, go tell Sanders.

[malokvale77]

146. Hillary in her own words on guns (and her spouse).

“You know, my dad took me out behind the cottage that my grandfather built on a little lake called Lake Winola outside of Scranton and taught me how to shoot when I was a little girl,” she said.

“You know, some people now continue to teach their children and their grandchildren. It’s part of culture. It’s part of a way of life. People enjoy hunting and shooting because it’s an important part of who they are. Not because they are bitter.”

Clinton touted her husband's record on gun control during his administration, and said "there is not a contradiction between protecting Second Amendment rights" and the effort to reduce crime.

Of course we can't hold her accountable for her own words.

[Thinkingabout]

150. Explain the deaths from guns since the Brady Bill was passed, we have more deaths from guns in the

US than Americans was lost in Iraq, shameful.

[malokvale77]

159. Explain how using her own words and policy stances ...

should be considered personal or negative attacks. Unless you believe those words and stances are negative ones.

Frankly, I find all lives lost by violence to be shameful.

[John Poet]

163. So do all the Iraqis killed not count for anything?

Guess if they're not "Americans", they're sub-humans?

[azmom]

21. Clinton doesn't want her record

To be spoken about?

I can see why, but isn't this what we need to know about candidates. How they voted on key issues.

Sorry your record sucks Hillary, but you need to own it.

[99th_Monkey]

39. Yep. Which choice did each candidate take, at that critical fork in the road, first time around.

What? This is not forbidden to talk about? .. and called an "attack" when we do?

oh please.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

41. she doesn't like it when people point out her weaknesses

pointing out weaknesses is not going negative - it is pointing out fact.

[azmom]

48. She fucked up on some critical votes. She

Needs to own it. It's not an attack to point that out.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

51. No it is not an attack as the votes are well published

[stillwaiting]

29. Drawing distinctions is not going negative.

Pointing out policy positions that Hillary held that were WRONG at the time is not going negative.

He's not the one that is throwing out accusations that the other is sexist. Or racist.

Bernie absolutely MUST point out all of the times that Hillary was wrong in the past. Because there were MANY. And Sanders was right on many of these issues. Pointing this out is not negative. It's comparing and contrasting political wisdom over the years.

I realize that the Clinton camp does not want Sanders to do this for obvious reasons, but the way Sanders is going about this is completely fair and above board. This is much different than how the Clinton camp will (and has) treated Bernie during this primary.

[99th_Monkey]

47. How is this not a double standard?

Bernie talks about issues and their differences over time on them, and it's called an 'attack'

Clinton goes personal, accusing Bernie of being a 'misogynist', sexist, racist, etc. and it's all good.

rather mind-blowing really.

we have our work cut out for us.

[stillwaiting]

58. It's worse than a double standard.

Because Bernie isn't doing what Hillary is doing.

Hillary (and some of her surrogates and some of her supporters) is lobbing unfair attacks at Bernie and will continue to do so.

Bernie will continue to focus on ISSUES and compare and contrast their records. That is something that Hillary will not like one bit for clearly obvious reasons. She and her supporters will claim that's an unfair attack to get him to stop or to get some to dismiss what he's saying, but they're just spin, spin, spinning away.

[azmom]

55. It's not only fair, but it's what campaigning is

About. Voting records are voting records. She needs to own her failures and stop crying fowl.

[orpupilofnature57]

35. Pointing out Facts is the best negative campaign ad he'll ever need .

[frylock]

38. Citing your opponent's record is only negative if you're ashamed of that record.

[winter is coming]

66. ^^ Thread win! n/t

[Dont call me Shirley]

67. Bingo!

[Indepatriot]

74. KABOOOOOOOOOOOM!

[Aerows]

103. Precisely.

They are doing everything possible to detract from her record, from attacking Sanders supporters to *this* now.

I say let them keep swatting at gnats, while ignoring the tigers about to eat them.

[Oilwellian]

158. Thank you

You said it far better than I did up thread.

[pa28]

49. They're desperate to avoid talking about Hillary's record.

Hillary knows she loses on her awful record. Her actual positions on civil rights, on welfare reform, on the Iraq war. As long as they can keep divisive smears running on Bernie they don't have to discuss her actual record.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

50. Democracy isn't about being polite and passive.

Moderation in temper is always a virtue; Moderation in principles is always a vice. Thomas Paine

[99th_Monkey]

56. great quote. Thanks. -nt-

[SusanCalvin]

125. What a fine quote.

I love Thomas Paine so much. Horrible the way he was abandoned by his "friends."

http://www.ushistory.org/paine/

[DrBulldog]

53. Did any of the Clinton supporters happen to notice the name of the bridge ...

... over which Bernie Sanders led over 2,000 supporters on his walk to the JJ dinner? (Yes, he WALKED WITH THE PEOPLE all the way to the event.)

The Women For Achievement Bridge.

[in_cog_ni_to]

57. Here's how it works - the female can attack the male on anything she chooses, but as soon as the

male challenges the female on any issue whatsoever, he's a sexist, racist dog who engages in negative attacks.

Everyone knows his use of the word "shouting" was used as an "in-general", for everyone, male or female who were talking about his gun position. Now she calls him sexist. He should challenge her with that. She's playing her "woe is me", gender card. How pathetic.

I hope Bernie doubles down on calling Clinton out on all of her wrongheaded positions -

PRISONS FOR PROFITS
TPP
XL PIPELINE
WALL ST. GREEDY THIEVES
THE IWR
THE PATRIOT ACT
THE BANKRUPTCY BILL

[djean111]

61. I find it hilarious that Hillary's supporters cannot make a distinction between personal

attacks and attacks on the issues. It doesn't surprise me, remembering Hillary's last, failed, campaign, though.
Kinda fun to watch.

[pa28]

65. Pointing out facts about her record SOUNDS like a negative attack.

That's the problem.

[djean111]

70. Oh, absolutely. Maybe that line was permanently blurred for some, last time around?

A politician runs on their record, for better or for worse. I am getting the impression that Hillary's campaign was intended for a race that was basically just for show.

[Ed Suspicious]

99. When her record is negative, I guess it would.

[onecaliberal]

63. Pointing to differences in issues and policy is NOT a personal attack.

It's too bad that things are spun that way. It really is no surprise who they're voting for. Their candidate does the same thing.

[Aerows]

68. Attacks on the CHARACTER of Bernie Sanders SUPPORTERS

have been front and center since he announced.

Hit me with your best shot.

Now try actually hitting the candidate, Bernie Sanders, on the ISSUES. On his record. You can't. Sanders supporters know it, O'Malley supporters know it (O'Malley is also awesome by the way and his record is superior to Hillary's, too), and Clinton supporters know it, too.

All the Clinton campaign has is to make mountains out of molehills to divert attention away from her record.

I have to admit, it was an ingenious plan to attempt to label Sanders supporters as Bernie Bro white, straight males. It failed spectacularly, and now there is a new cry, "Bernie said something negative about me!".

No, he said something negative about your position, and has been saying negative crap about your position since the beginning because he is opposed to your agenda. Which is why he is running in the first place.

If you can't attack his record, have to attack his supporters, and THEN attack him for standing up for his views and claim it is a personal attack, you have got to know you are charging off of the cliff while trying to chase an imaginary opponent. Hell, he's had the grace to stretch out a hand to keep her from plummeting, but at some point, if your opponent is determined to go over the edge, you have to let them.

Frankly, I welcome the HELL out of this latest "allegation" from the Clinton camp. Attack the shit out of his supporters. Attack the shit out of him. Attack the shit out of his record and his views that have been consistent.

Please proceed.

[99th_Monkey]

73. +100 - great post! Well said. -nt-

[sabrina 1]

87. I just said the same thing, only you said it a whole lot better. ALL the Clinton Camp has done from

the beginning is to attack and smear Sanders and his supporters.

Great Post!

[madfloridian]

105. Well said.

[DianeK]

139. Thank you!

If Hillary's intention is to alienate those who support Bernie, this is a pretty good start

[Dont call me Shirley]

69. She's trying with the "Shouting" comment to link Bernie to Howard Dean's Iowa Scream! Ha!

Low Blow!

[cui bono]

71. Projection. Clear and simple.

Except that Hillary never promised to not go negative and we all know why. She revels in it.

Projection by the Hillary camp ana her supporters. It happens in the real world and it happens on DU. All the time.

[Mass]

75. They call that negative attacks? Wait until the GOP starts attacking them.

If stating your record is being negative, what are people supposed to say.

As for "shouting", even if Hillary Clinton seems stupid claiming it was a sexist attack (there was nothing sexist here),her attacking Sanders on that is hardly a big thing. (Will she call Hilary Rosen sexist next, because Rosen told her to shut up on DOMA?). All attacks are not sexist.

[RandySF]

76. Minor compared to the Republicans.

[DURHAM D]

77. Any way you want to slice and dice it

Bernie is off message.

Well done Hillary.

[Aerows]

101. Off message?

Oh, I do agree, though, well done Hillary. Here's a fork.

[Fawke Em]

104. No - he's not.

He always outlines the differences on the issues and how they effect the people.

This IS his message.

Well done, Bernie.

[paleotn]

107. The Goldman Girl strikes again....

...same bullshit politics that won her nomination in 2008...oh, wait....

[Jackilope]

109. If he is "off message", how come she is adopting his platform and stances?

Well, at least for the time being. You know she'll be embracing TPP again pretty soon.

[DURHAM D]

116. In his Jake Tapper interview he had to defend himself.

That is off message. Pretty simple really.

[Aerows]

142. You can pretend that she isn't adopting his messaging

like everybody else won't notice, and hey, maybe they won't. Did you think DU wouldn't notice?

Seriously?

[DURHAM D]

145. Your comment makes no sense.

Done

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

78. How many times am I going to have to pull out my 'Shocked, I'm simply shocked!' comment this season?

But no, I'm not surprised at all that Hillary is pulling out either the 'He broke his promise!' bit or the 'He's being sexist!' routine.

Nevermind the fact that O'Malley was going on and on about guns too. Hillary seems to be confused about O'Malley also being a female, I guess.

[Joe Turner]

80. Bernie needs to go negative

in a big way. Hillary's smear machine attacks have gone on long enough. In Bernie's case fortunately he won't need to resort to unfounded smears. Relentlessly exposing the truth about Hillary's past will be more than enough to sink her chances.

[Truprogressive85]

81. She goes negative and accusation of sexism , yet its Sen. Sanders that going negative ?

Give me a break

If calling out HRC's record is going negative than drop out of the race

maybe she should go to him and tell him to "cut it out" like she did with her Wall st. buddies opps I mean constituents

[LongTomH]

82. I heard nothing negative in Bernie's speech, he just pointed out the issues where his votes......

......differed from Hillary's votes and stated positions.

The Clinton campaign does seem to be getting nervous.

[sabrina 1]

83. Oh that's funny He tells the truth and it's negative??? I guess it is if you are not used to hearing

it!

Why don't they just talk about ISSUES? Clinton and her surrogates and followers are always whining about EVERYONE ELSE and attacking and smearing other candidates.

But they RARELY talk about ISSUES!

Why is that?

[BeanMusical]

85. +1

[davsand]

84. Sanders never used her name, spoke ONLY about his own voting record.

Can't say I see much of an open or negative attack in that. Sucks only when your own record stinks.


Laura

[Geronimoe]

86. Here comes the Hillary victimhood

It must be another of her vast right or left wing conspiracy theories.

Her polishing must be wearing off. The last thing the Clintons want is to talk about actual policies.

[FreakinDJ]

90. I must say she is consistent

didn't she play this card in the 2008 campaign too

[Jack Rabbit]

88. Podesta is just being a typical campaign spokesman

They don't make reliable sources.

[cantbeserious]

89. Pot Meet Kettle

eom

[SandersDem]

93. This is an excuse

for HRC to dial up her own campaigns personal attacks on Bernie. Why? I am certain, it is because of political calculus based on internal polling as well as her own burn rate regarding her funding.

If you look at the polling showing the Hill bump, notice something....Bernie's numbers haven't exactly plummeted. HRC picked up a benefit from the debate among undecideds and potential Biden voters, with Biden not running, she further gained as people went to her, however....bumps do not last, HRC is vulnerable on the ISSUES. (Just wait until the general if she is the candidate)

So, I welcome Hillary delving into another personal attack on Bernie Sanders, because what happened last time???

If she sticks to issues, fair enough. If she trots out socialist buggabooery, shame on her and it will blow her campaign apart if not in the primary, later on should she win the primary. If you think that is not a big IF, you have your head in the sand.

Dangerous game Podesta, dangerous game....inflame the Bernie supporters and you are going to lose many of them. You've already lost me, I will not cast a vote for HRC, not now, not ever. If she gets to the general, I will write in Sanders or if he says not to, I'll write in warren or just leave the top blank.

[MissDeeds]

100. Hillary is the master of negative attacks

Bernie (and O'Malley) should confront her on the issues. So, these big bad men can't say anything about her or she cries sexism? Please. If she can't take the heat, she should get out of the kitchen. If she's so fragile she should get out of the race. It's a rough and cutthroat world. Will Putin and the rest of the world powers treat her with kid gloves?

Pathetic.

[cantbeserious]

102. Why Is The Democratic Party (HRC) Afraid Of Larry Lessig?

[modestybl]

123. They aren't ... He brings nothing to the table...

Up front he says he only wants to deal with one issue and then resign... he's a clueless moron. One can only use the bully pulpit if one has POWER... you've pre-empted your power and your negotiating chips if you limit your purview as president.

Besides which, Bernie Sanders already has this. He is running a VIABLE campaign off of ZERO dollars from super PACs. He has a comprehensive set of proposals from minimum wage to the environment o foreign policy... and a coherent philosophy regarding democracy vs. oligarchy.

If Lessig wants to be serious, he should start here: http://www.wolf-pac.com

[cantbeserious]

160. Sadly - One Is Wrong

eom

[Fawke Em]

106. Apparently, all the commenters think that headline sucked.

Nearly all of them (minus the obvious Republican trolls) point out that this isn't an attack - that she attacked him by making it about her.

Seems the only people who can't see threw this bullshit are Hillary supporters.

[DianeK]

110. Lots of whining going on in this political season

I guess Hillary has just joined that club..pathetic really..beneath her I would have thought

[SusanCalvin]

112. This is disgusting.

He never said he wouldn't point out policy disagreements - who in their right mind would do that? He also never said Hillary was "shouting."

This reminds me of the 2008 primary episode that caused me to make my first-ever primary donation, to Obama. She basically said, "I'm good (I believe it was on foreign policy), McCain's good, but I don't know about that Obama guy."

Every time I think I might like her, sorta, something like this happens.

[Major Hogwash]

113. John Podesta is a pimp.

I wouldn't loan my car to him.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

121. Reprise

As Hillary Clinton 's march to the nomination and the presidency becomes more and more unstoppable, expect the attacks on her, her staffers, and her supporters to become more vitriolic as they grow exponentially...

[Major Hogwash]

126. John Podesta reminds me of those weasels in Roger Rabbit.

I have never liked him. He's arrogant to a fault.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

128. He strikes me as no better or worse than your average political operative...

If you agree that the whole lot of em are , regardless of party affiliation, a less than savory lot you have an ally... All of em love the game...

[modestybl]

117. The only problem Hillary has EVER cared about is how she gets to be POTUS.

Like the Repubs, Hillary's concern about Benghazi has always been her poll numbers... not that the Obama admin.'s policy of regime change in Libya has been a complete and utter disaster.

Her stances on Keystone and the TPP are transparently opportunistic. She is still lying about her Iraq War vote (or is hopelessly naive and stupid). Her answer about the big banks was downright cringeworthy...

Being annoyed is NOT being oppressed or put upon. Hillary is just stamping her foot and screaming "my turn!! my turn!!" because she may not get a coronation...

[bigdarryl]

120. Funny how Sanders supporters now accept his going negative on Hillary

After he's said I've never ran a.negative campaign.This isn't helping Sanders he seems off his game and isn't going to win a negative back and forth contest with the Clintons.The Clintons are the best in the business at negative campaigning if he wanted to go after Hillary he should of let the serogates do it.

[modestybl]

127. You are confusing "going negative" with debating...

...or are you only going to be happy if everyone in the Dem Party now bows their heads to Hillary's coronation? There are serious differences between Sanders and HRC in war, trade, Wall Street, healthcare, environment, and being confronted on them is NOT the same as being attacked. What and when did Sanders "go negative" , in your view?

[99th_Monkey]

133. Stop trying to put retroactive words in Bernie's mouth. Bernie refuses to make PERSONAL attacks

You know, like calling an opponent a racist, a misogynist, etc. <-- THESE are personal attacks

Bernie said he wouldn't do is engage in "personal" attacks,
he never said that he would never point out their differences on issues.
both historically and currently. Otherwise many voters would remain <-- this is about ISSUES
completely in the dark about them, which of course is what Hillary
wants because of all her recent 'me too' flip-flopping on a string of
key issues where she and Bernie previously had stark differences.

[jwirr]

161. Talking issues is never negative. That is what voters want

to hear.

[AlbertCat]

122. But hey, Hills gets a pass on that, while Bernie's accused of doing the very thing Hillary is doing

I know!


It's like being for Hillary is a religion. No criticisms are allowed. If you do criticize, its all personal and "absurd!". Just gaze starry eyed at her majesty!

[forest444]

132. Hmm. It worked soooo well the last time...

http://usuncut.com/politics/backfire-sanders-raises-1-2-million-in-two-days-after-pro-hillary-attack-ad/

[PatrickforO]

134. This article is a joke, ginned up by a dutiful reporter to give Clinton that

'when women talk some people think they are shouting' sound byte.

Sanders said he would not engage in PERSONAL attacks on Clinton, but has always said he would talk about the issues and point out where the differences are. Attacking Clinton's stance on issues is NOT a personal attack.

That last line, "Sanders is denying the allegation."

Straight out of the Book of Rove - throw the spaghetti on the wall and go with whatever sticks. Right? Because if they are explaining they are losing. Right? Because no politician in this happy little neoliberal utopia is really allowed to talk about issues. Nope. We want dirty laundry. Sound bytes. Slogans. That is what is troubling to me about things like this.

But then, I suppose on the bright side is that Bernie is getting attacked this way because Clinton will never go nose to nose with him on actual issues because that is Bernie's strength. So we just gotta keep on supporting Bernie every step of the way.

I guess it is good politics, and Clinton is a first class politician. Too bad its bad for the people...

[GeorgeGist]

137. Another day ...

another meme.

They will run out someday. Right?

[workinclasszero]

141. Yup. March 1st 2016

Super Tuesday.

It ends in the ballot box.

[bowens43]

138. sometimes the truth hurts...but it's still the truth

telling the truth is not negative campaigning

[mhatrw]

140. Clinton and her supporters think they should be able to cook the gander

without ever getting goosed.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251724732

[dsc]

148. I have no problem with him attacking her on issues

but it is absurd to argue that he isn't doing so. He is.

[bravenak]

149. It is the Peter Principle. It affects Third Way Progressives terribly.

[Armstead]

153. MY gawd! This is an "attack"?!?!I thought Hillary was "tough."

Geeze the double standards and mixed messages are flying around fast and furious.

Poor Hillary being attacked by that Mean Old Man.

Hillary is the only candidate strong enough to stand up to the GOP.

She's the best hope to prove that women can succeed in the arena.

Hillary has to be treated "special" because she is a woman, and bernie has to "watch what he says" very carefully.

[HassleCat]

154. We're approaching the foolish season

Where various people in various campaigns erect various straw men, and demonstrate their enthusiasm by turning the flame thrower on said straw men. Cue the fake umbrage. Cue the phony outrage. Cue the sputtering denials. Cue the blank expression that precedes the "I can't understand why they're picking on me" demurral.

[AgingAmerican]

157. Wow, so it comes all the way from the top?

So much for being 'above the fray'. Guess she just can't help herself.