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Related: About this forumMika Brzezinski slams Hillary for playing sexism card on Morning Joe
So, this happened this morning on Morning Joe on MSNBC.
"I know sexism. Hillary Clinton knows sexism. She should know better!"
She goes on to call the whole thing "pathetic".
Ouch!
bigdarryl
(13,190 posts)Why do people assume I watch Morning Joe because I posted a YouTube video? Who's "you people"?
berni_mccoy
(23,018 posts)Do we really need this shit...
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Seems to be directed at the op and those who watch. Is their something wrong with addressing people who watch the main stream media as "you people?" I can't for the life of me find offense at those two words as you are. Why do people still watch that crap. That is the exact same thing. Where is the offence?
Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)leftofcool
(19,460 posts)BWHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
What exactly is your problem with that? http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/why-mika-brzezinski-wont-stop-until-women-know-their-value
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)sure, alrighty then.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)women who were deeply offended by Hillary, of all people, claiming to be a victim. I do not watch MSM so am not familiar with her other than what I read here.
But on this, and her added comment that she 'will be killed for this' I could not agree more with her.
It is nauseating to constantly see women portrayed as victims, when we fight so hard to demonstrate that we are anything BUT weak, scared, shouted down, '50s era stereotypes of what women really are.
boston bean
(36,221 posts)She can't recognize a damned thing.
pinebox
(5,761 posts)if you were chiming the same song when she was fighting for feminist issues? Doubtful.
boston bean
(36,221 posts)Can you show me where in the video she is defending sexism?
Thank you.
Gore1FL
(21,130 posts)Saying that only women shout is pretty sexist on yours and her part, however.
Why do you and Hillary equate shouting with only women? Do you consider them to be inferior?
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)card" are only attempts by HRC to gain political favor. It reeks of desperation.
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)You don't find it a bit hypocritical that the same woman you say "fights for women's issues" sits next to a man every morning who makes continuous sexist comments? Okay, whatever!
pinebox
(5,761 posts)I'm guessing no.
Look, Obama must be a Republican.
Case closed.
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)pinebox
(5,761 posts)I wasn't aware Tea Party people watch MSNBC. Hmmm that's a new one.
Now are you going to talk about what was said and what Mika said or are you going to continue to deflect and spin it? Concentrate. Focus. I know you can do it.
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)pinebox
(5,761 posts)Uh sure.
Quick! You better go troll this thread too! It's the same thing! Run! Run fast! lol
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251732117#post5
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)Hillary playing the victim. We don't need victims leading this country. And I can only imagine what Limbaugh and the rest of the Right Wing Noise Machine will do with this to slam women in general with, especially women who have fought to NOT be viewed as weak, whining victims.
DanTex
(20,709 posts)It was just a few weeks ago they were saying that all the corporate bosses were forcing pundits to support Hillary.
The mental gymnastics... impressive!
So is that your new thing now, attack people and deflect from the issue at hand, in this case, the video? Gotchya. That's pretty legit.
DanTex
(20,709 posts)pinebox
(5,761 posts)It is what it is.
DanTex
(20,709 posts)pinebox
(5,761 posts)but so have you too. Let's cut the bullshit Dan. Your commentary on internet polls wasn't exactly stellar.
Now are you going to discuss the issue here and the reason why I made the post or are you going to spin it into some splintering access point that leads to Saturn?
Mika has a point.
DanTex
(20,709 posts)My commentary on internet polls was spot-on, and vindicated when the scientific polls came out.
The issue I'm interested in is how quickly Bernie fans switch from conspiracy theories to cheering on the MSM depending on what the MSM is saying.
I think it's comical how'd you'd like to get into an online pissing contest of "You did and I didn't" rather than discuss the video and story which I posted. One custom Google search says it all but het I'd rather discuss you know, things which matter, like the video I posted.
Thanks for playing! That says a lot. You can't defend it.
Cheers!
DanTex
(20,709 posts)You're wrong about one thing, though: that video you posted is not something that matters.
pinebox
(5,761 posts)Then why are you posting in my thread about it? You should probably move along then, eh?
DanTex
(20,709 posts)I think Katy Perry sang about it at that Iowa event. Here's a video that matters...
You can have Katy, I'll take the people. We don't need a pop stars to get a crowd to be the same size as the person who's running against us
Quackers
(2,256 posts)leftofcool
(19,460 posts)Mika's only point is what Joe tells her to think.
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)Dawgs
(14,755 posts)pinebox
(5,761 posts)Like you know, actually trying to talk about what I posted? Guilty as charged bud. Pencil me in!
Logical
(22,457 posts)DanTex
(20,709 posts)Logical
(22,457 posts)DanTex
(20,709 posts)Logical
(22,457 posts)treestar
(82,383 posts)How can they be saying anything not in tune with what the oligarchs require?
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)campaign donors.
bahrbearian
(13,466 posts)zappaman
(20,606 posts)workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Why don't you take this **** to freakrepublic where it belongs?
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)pinebox
(5,761 posts)You're hilarious! Why don't you watch the video from MSNBC's Morning Joe this morning and comment on that. It's all right there, live from this morning on MSNBC. Or do you have no defense of this? It is what it is and it's all there.
Have at it. Or does MSNBC scare you?
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)hate radio or fox news.
Apparently Bernie fans are good with those right wing propaganda sources.
pinebox
(5,761 posts)MSNBC is a right wing propaganda source?
Utterly fascinating. I didn't know that. Wow I better write that shit down.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Charles Joseph "Joe" Scarborough is an American cable news and talk radio host, lawyer, author, and former politician. He is currently the co-host of Morning Joe on MSNBC, and previously hosted Scarborough Country on the same channel. Scarborough served in the United States House of Representatives from 1995 to 2001 as a Republican from the 1st district of Florida.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Scarborough
This will make it easier for you. Make sure you write down this part:
Scarborough served in the United States House of Representatives from 1995 to 2001 as a Republican from the 1st district of Florida.
pinebox
(5,761 posts)Was this a republican show too?
Interesting.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Okay.
zappaman
(20,606 posts)Response to workinclasszero (Reply #55)
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workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)You better turn it on and get the latest Hillary talking points from the RNC
Mendocino
(7,488 posts)n/t
tishaLA
(14,176 posts)Sure, we have Chris, Rachel, and Lawrence in the evening, but that's offset by three hours of Morning Joe (which is conservative TV and hues closely to republican narratives/framing even when it has progressive guests), an hour of Andrea Mitchell, and another hour of Chuck Todd
ProudToBeBlueInRhody
(16,399 posts)JESUS, JOE, GET A SHOVEL!!!!
silenttigersong
(957 posts)yeah Mika Shut-up you know only democrats experience sexism
pinebox
(5,761 posts)malachi
(732 posts)leftofcool
(19,460 posts)is republican? Fascinating.
So you can't rebut her comments?
Thanks for playing.
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)pinebox
(5,761 posts)or are you just going to continue to get mad and rage?
Clock out dude if you can't actually discuss things in a civil manner.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Ridiculous that this right wing trash get posted here as truth.
ProudToBeBlueInRhody
(16,399 posts)Morning Slow is the worst fucking show on MSNBC, and they are doing everything they can to make every show on MSNBC more like it as they trend right.
Joe Scarbourough murdered an intern, and is now treated like a political savant. Meanwhile Mika is his "liberal" enabler. She is Alan Colmes in a dress.
I understand you're probably new to this politics thing, but everyone here knows Morning Blow sucks!
Gore1FL
(21,130 posts)Nice try.
What will you do when the transparent slurs don't work? (Like this time.)
NorthCarolina
(11,197 posts)are about the same political stripe as Hillary I believe, so I think your mention of "teapublicans" is a bit disingenuous. Why not just admit you don't like that Hillary got called out on her attack? Constantly attacking the source, and NEVER addressing the actual issue being raised in a coherent manner is EXACTLY what "teapublicans" do.
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)..just because of it's source ... The truth is the truth.
pinebox
(5,761 posts)yet they fail to realize the actual REAL source is MSNBC! It's comical as hell.
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)like Chuck Todd or whoever, then that ipso facto means I can NEVER agree with
ANYthing said on MSNBC, or I'll be attacked for being duplicitous ... or something.
pinebox
(5,761 posts)Stupid people playing stupid games to win stupid prizes.
That's all it is.
Vattel
(9,289 posts)azmom
(5,208 posts)I know she is trying to fire up her women supporters, but she needs to leave Bernie out of that.
Hillary is off base on this one.
Snotcicles
(9,089 posts)tishaLA
(14,176 posts)In fact, I don't think I'd turn to her to discuss any serious matter.
riversedge
(70,204 posts)JoePhilly
(27,787 posts)Maybe Joe can be the White House press secretary.
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)oasis
(49,381 posts)JTFrog
(14,274 posts)Wow, you really love your assholish sources don't you?
moobu2
(4,822 posts)she'll be replaced as Joe's 'yes girl' by that dimwit obnoxious Republican harpy they have on the show every other day. She worked in the Bush jr. administration. I stopped watching that show several years ago. It's awful.
ProudToBeBlueInRhody
(16,399 posts)I wouldn't be surprised if she and Joe are "good friends".
72DejaVu
(1,545 posts)randys1
(16,286 posts)On Tue Oct 27, 2015, 08:38 AM an alert was sent on the following post:
Mika Brzezinski slams Hillary for playing sexism card on Morning Joe
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251732136
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ALERTER'S COMMENTS
First this guy attacks Hillary using an Ann Coulter video... now he's attacking Hillary using Mika. Why on earth are we using Republicans and assholes to attack our Democratic candidates? This is completely inappropriate for DU.
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Quackers
(2,256 posts)Although, it doesn't look like my vote was needed.
Good explanation, too. I could understand their issue if I was posting something straight off Limbaugh or Alex Jones but MSNBC? Come on now.
sarge43
(28,941 posts)leftofcool
(19,460 posts)For me personally, it is hilarious that some people link to right wing resources.
randys1
(16,286 posts)sites, hell all of it really.
It isnt fooling me, but I have a high bar for hiding a post.
Quackers
(2,256 posts)All of this stuff will be churned up and used. Might as well debate and squash the lies here and now then waiting till the general. It makes me kind of sick to my stomach though to see all of this in-fighting. I actually can't wait till the primaries are over. Just because someone doesn't support the candidate that you do, doesn't make them a bad person. hrmjustin for example, I still don't understand how he got 5 hides.
lark
(23,097 posts)Unfortunately.
99Forever
(14,524 posts)Never address the issue, instead character assassinate the messenger.
Birds of a feather.
Amimnoch
(4,558 posts)It's usually because that card IS being played.
SunSeeker
(51,550 posts)Anyone who watched the debate saw that. Right after she zinged him on his gun stances, he says, "What I can tell Secretary Clinton is that all the shouting in the world will not do what we want..."
He absolutely was accusing her of shouting. It is along the lines of the typical misogynistic attempt to shut uppity women up, accusing them of being "emotional" or "hysterical." Sanders later on CNN says he didn't mean Clinton but meant "people across the country" calling for gun control. Not only is this an unfair dig at gun control advocates, but he didn't say "people across the country," he said "Secretary Clinton."
And on top of that, the whole "people need to stop shouting about gun violence" meme is bullshit and offensive. People DO need to shout about gun violence. We have been silent too long. We have ceded the podium to the NRA. Enough.
It is Mika who is pathetic here, acquiescing to Joe Scarborough's assertion that Hillary was "pathetic" and nodding to Scarborough's disgust with "political correctness."
Android3.14
(5,402 posts)Calling Bernie sexist is like calling Obama an immigrant. Only stupid and/or unethical people play that sort of game.
Geronimoe
(1,539 posts)Hillary slinging mud so she doesn't have to discuss her record and policies.
She had Obama associating with extreme radicals. Michelle hating America. Edwards and Obama beating up on her because she is a female. With Rev. Wright highly edited clip he appeared to hate America and was questioning Obama's religious beliefs.
Fortunately, the muddling even hit the Kennedy family and Edwards decided to back Obama and campaigned with him.
LexVegas
(6,060 posts)Response to pinebox (Original post)
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6chars
(3,967 posts)raindaddy
(1,370 posts)I guess Hillary could've pulled the vagina card when Sander's stood up for her after she was being grilled on her e-mail issue. I was surprised she gratefully accepted the help from such a women hating misogynist as Bernie Sanders.
MisterP
(23,730 posts)REASON FOR ALERT
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"vagina card" Really? need more be said? Forget Hillary.. forget Bernie.. forget election stuff. This should never be acceptible on any site that would call itself liberal or progressive. This is a right wing, misogynistic insult no matter who it is aimed at.
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Beausoir
(7,540 posts)How cowardly.
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)Beausoir
(7,540 posts)raindaddy
(1,370 posts)for personal political gain is acceptable?
I'll apologize if I offended anyone's sensibilities, but I won't apologize for my personal disgust with Hillary's dishonest and manipulative campaign tactics..
Thespian2
(2,741 posts)the more I understand why I don't want the Goldman-Sachs water-girl as president...
Oh, I listened to the 1%er, not Mika...
whathehell
(29,067 posts)I hope, the supposed "balance"? Ninety percent of the time she agrees with Joe
or plays "the little woman" in silence.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Doesn't she realize how it sounds when you string together clips repeating the same thing over and over?
TheKentuckian
(25,026 posts)silenttigersong
(957 posts)have a sexist double standard.Calling Monica Lewinsky "That Woman"sure sounds misogynist.
senz
(11,945 posts)I realized it during the 2008 primary campaign. I hope she goes down in flames this time just like she did then.