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TroyD

(4,551 posts)
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 12:00 AM Aug 2012

Newsweek goes negative on Obama: 'Hit The Road, Barack'

Niall Ferguson's piece is on the Newsweek cover

He is one of only a handful of politicians in Washington who is truly sincere about addressing this country’s fiscal crisis....But one thing is clear. Ryan psychs Obama out. This has been apparent ever since the White House went on the offensive against Ryan in the spring of last year. And the reason he psychs him out is that, unlike Obama, Ryan has a plan—as opposed to a narrative—for this country.

The voters now face a stark choice. They can let Barack Obama’s rambling, solipsistic narrative continue until they find themselves living in some American version of Europe, with low growth, high unemployment, even higher debt—and real geopolitical decline.

Or they can opt for real change: the kind of change that will end four years of economic underperformance, stop the terrifying accumulation of debt, and reestablish a secure fiscal foundation for American national security.



http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2012/08/19/niall-ferguson-on-why-barack-obama-needs-to-go.html
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Newsweek goes negative on Obama: 'Hit The Road, Barack' (Original Post) TroyD Aug 2012 OP
One week then bird cage liner just like the negative Romney covers. demgrrrll Aug 2012 #1
Fucking disrespectful! liberalmuse Aug 2012 #2
Niall Ferguson TroyD Aug 2012 #3
Ferguson is a total hack One of the 99 Aug 2012 #9
Newsweek will no doubt lose a lot of readers over this one. JDPriestly Aug 2012 #28
Lost me after being a 30 year subscriber during the 2008 election. Fla Dem Aug 2012 #40
I'm confused... Andrew08 Aug 2012 #34
Post removed Post removed Aug 2012 #39
The GOP... dennis4868 Aug 2012 #4
So Newsweek is a porno rag now? Scootaloo Aug 2012 #5
Newsweek is acting like it endorses the article TroyD Aug 2012 #6
I mostly read Newsweek while taking a dump. FightingIrish Aug 2012 #7
Negative reactions TroyD Aug 2012 #8
Ryan does have a plan, dos obama OR the democrats have an actual plan of action? msongs Aug 2012 #10
Ryan has a bogus, fake plan fasttense Aug 2012 #17
Yes. Have you not been paying attention the last 3.5 years? NYC Liberal Aug 2012 #33
Disrespectful TroyD Aug 2012 #11
Fuck Newsweek Zoeisright Aug 2012 #12
Niall Ferguson has been and is always the tool, Pay no mind to the fool. nt mikekohr Aug 2012 #13
Obama has a plan and agenda but the repigs blocks the jobs bill. craigmatic Aug 2012 #14
People still read Newsweek??? Warren DeMontague Aug 2012 #15
We ended our Newsweek subscription a couple of years ago: blkmusclmachine Aug 2012 #16
And if Mitt wins DonCoquixote Aug 2012 #18
Newsweek? I thought they went out of business years ago thecentristword Aug 2012 #19
I line my birdcage with the pages of Newsweek!! center rising Aug 2012 #20
Spell it right--it's been NewsWEAK for a long time! eom Maeve Aug 2012 #21
Nasty article (from what I skimmed over) Proud Liberal Dem Aug 2012 #22
boycott outsideworld Aug 2012 #23
Blame it on Tina Brown. Jennicut Aug 2012 #24
they had a 'Mitt the Wimp" cover a couple of weeks ago, too, so they are going negative on both of WI_DEM Aug 2012 #25
Krugman and Andrew Sullivan (on his blog) dennis4868 Aug 2012 #26
Why does the media ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2012 #27
The MSM wants the horse race. Flatpicker Aug 2012 #29
Post removed Post removed Aug 2012 #30
3 and out. Ruby the Liberal Aug 2012 #31
Expect more. pintobean Aug 2012 #35
They did? Ruby the Liberal Aug 2012 #36
Post removed Post removed Aug 2012 #32
Timing is everything...given the Akin uproar, Newsweek just rendered itself irrelevant n/t Sheepshank Aug 2012 #37
Tina Brown strikes again leftynyc Aug 2012 #38
He knows what he is doing. Flatpicker Aug 2012 #41
A Full Fact-Check of Niall Ferguson's Very Bad Argument Against Obama from the Atlantic Douglas Carpenter Aug 2012 #42
Newsweek hasn't been worth the paper it's printed on for a long time. Beacool Aug 2012 #43

liberalmuse

(18,672 posts)
2. Fucking disrespectful!
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 12:04 AM
Aug 2012

Who is this piece of shit writing this pile of garbage?

Arrrrrgh! I think I've had my fill of outrage for the next month - and that was just from crap I've read in the past hour. Fuck Akins and fuck Ferguson.

TroyD

(4,551 posts)
3. Niall Ferguson
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 12:05 AM
Aug 2012

He admits at the beginning of his piece that he is a Republican and worked for McCain in 2008, but what surprises me is that Newsweek would put this on their cover. It really should just be an opinion piece inside. Putting it on the cover makes it look like the magazine is endorsing his views.

It's also somewhat disrespectful to refer to the President by his first name on the cover.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
28. Newsweek will no doubt lose a lot of readers over this one.
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 04:23 PM
Aug 2012

Unless it has already lost all the liberal subscribers.

Fla Dem

(23,711 posts)
40. Lost me after being a 30 year subscriber during the 2008 election.
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 02:01 PM
Aug 2012

They weren't as bad as TIME but they sure weren't giving the liberals any breaks.

 

Andrew08

(4 posts)
34. I'm confused...
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 07:22 AM
Aug 2012

How is it disrespectful to refer to the president by his first name? He's just a man, a public servant actually. I'm pretty sure we've all been calling the former president "W," "George," and "Junior" for the past decade. They're not kings or the Pope, they're elected officials, nothing to revere.

Response to TroyD (Reply #3)

dennis4868

(9,774 posts)
4. The GOP...
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 12:08 AM
Aug 2012

who planned total obstruction to any progress on the night of the Inauguraton in 2009 must be laughing at this cover story...their plan worked better than thety could ever have imagined that it would work. This article is the most fact free and utter nonsense I have ever read.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
5. So Newsweek is a porno rag now?
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 12:09 AM
Aug 2012

'Cause that's the only place for a pro-Republican puff piece like that.

FightingIrish

(2,716 posts)
7. I mostly read Newsweek while taking a dump.
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 12:13 AM
Aug 2012

I'll find something else. This is beyond bad journalism. It's a rag in distress.

TroyD

(4,551 posts)
8. Negative reactions
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 12:15 AM
Aug 2012

It's getting some negative backlash on Twitter. Quite a few people are objecting to the cover and saying they will not be supporting Newsweek anymore.

It's also disrespectful to call the President by his first name like that.

msongs

(67,421 posts)
10. Ryan does have a plan, dos obama OR the democrats have an actual plan of action?
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 12:19 AM
Aug 2012

The democrats want 4 more years, so what do they intend to do if they get them? It can't be all about attacking romney/ryan

as in "If I am elected here is what I want to accomplish in the next 4 years"?

 

fasttense

(17,301 posts)
17. Ryan has a bogus, fake plan
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 07:44 AM
Aug 2012

whose numbers don't add up and who wants to steal from the middle class and poor to give to the uber rich. He wants to put woman back into the year 1800 and make sure everyone but the uber rich suffer austerity.

You want to know what Obama's plan is? Pay attention. If you don't know what his plan is it's because you have not been paying attention. Here's a link.

http://www.democrats.org/about/party_platform

Merely repeating a RepubliCON talking point does not convince anyone of anything.

TroyD

(4,551 posts)
11. Disrespectful
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 12:21 AM
Aug 2012

What I think is most disrespectful is that it says 'Hit the Road, Barack'.

You shouldn't call the President (or anyone else for that matter) by his first name unless you know him personally.

If you want to write something like this you should at least say 'Hit the Road, Obama'.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
15. People still read Newsweek???
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 02:33 AM
Aug 2012

Wow.

I mean, if I need to get the fresh pop on Pippa, or the dish on Kate's new Posh trouser ensemble, sure. But for actual, real News pertinent to politically-minded citizens of the USA?

Pffffffffffffffffffffffffffft. That thing is a fucking JOKE.

 

blkmusclmachine

(16,149 posts)
16. We ended our Newsweek subscription a couple of years ago:
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 04:50 AM
Aug 2012

We saw the kind of worthless Rag Newsweek was becoming way back then.

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
18. And if Mitt wins
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 08:27 AM
Aug 2012

Watch these same bastards call for a new respect for the president, which is a nice way of saying "ya'll know Barack was never legit."

thecentristword

(187 posts)
19. Newsweek? I thought they went out of business years ago
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 08:32 AM
Aug 2012

Desperate attempt to be relavent? If anybody read it, it might be a problem

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,422 posts)
22. Nasty article (from what I skimmed over)
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 10:08 AM
Aug 2012

This is clearly just a trash piece with no apparent sense of objectivity about Barack Obama's Presidency to date nor willingness to place responsibility on other factors beyond President Obama's control- i.e. global economic problems, "job creators" not really creating jobs (even after President Obama reluctantly agreeing to a two-year extension of Bush's 2001 & 2003 tax cuts in order to get additional unemployment), the totally unnecessary and destructive "debt ceiling debacle" initiated by House Republicans 2011, as well as their failure to pass spending bills in a timely manner and attempts to shut down the government, GOP obstructionism, particularly in the Senate, making Congress- the necessary mechanism in passing legislation to potentially solve our problems and ensuring that government agencies have the necessary personnel to function- almost as useful as a paperweight (though a paperweight is what it is- Congress has more power and responsibility). I refuse to trust any analysis that does not take these kinds of things into account and assign appropriate responsibility. We can look back over the last 3-4 years and maybe find a few things that President Obama might have done different/better that might have potentially changed things for the better but until/unless he really has willing partners to work with in Congress- Democrats AND Republicans- I'm willing to cut him a little slack. He has done some impressive things with little or no cooperation from the opposition and there is no doubt in my mind that, whatever his shortcomings/flaws might be, I want HIM- not Mitt Romney/Paul Ryan- calling the shots from the big seat in the Oval Office for the next 4 years!

WI_DEM

(33,497 posts)
25. they had a 'Mitt the Wimp" cover a couple of weeks ago, too, so they are going negative on both of
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 03:14 PM
Aug 2012

them, but this conservative writer does have a man crush on Ryan.

dennis4868

(9,774 posts)
26. Krugman and Andrew Sullivan (on his blog)
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 03:19 PM
Aug 2012

are spending the day debunking all the lies in that Newsweek cover story...there are so many lies it's incredible.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
27. Why does the media ...
Mon Aug 20, 2012, 03:23 PM
Aug 2012

constantly refer to ryan as "serious"? Because he put some numbers (that don't work and haven't a shot in hell of passing) on paper?

I always thought being serious about governing would be putting forward something that is internally consistent (i.e., the numbers work out) and possible.

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pintobean

(18,101 posts)
35. Expect more.
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 09:30 AM
Aug 2012

Newsbusters did a story on this and linked to this and another thread on the subject. I suspect that some wingnuts won't be able to resist the urge.

Response to TroyD (Original post)

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
38. Tina Brown strikes again
Tue Aug 21, 2012, 11:35 AM
Aug 2012

She can't help but go for the "shock" effect. I'm guessing years of the British tabloids are infecting her brain. I always thought she was an overrated hack and one of the fastest ways to get me to change a channel is to see her face on any panel.

Douglas Carpenter

(20,226 posts)
42. A Full Fact-Check of Niall Ferguson's Very Bad Argument Against Obama from the Atlantic
Wed Aug 22, 2012, 08:56 AM
Aug 2012

Here is a link to the article in the Atlantic:

A Full Fact-Check of Niall Ferguson's Very Bad Argument Against Obama from the Atlantic

http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2012/08/a-full-factcheck-of-niall-fergusons-very-bad-argument-against-obama/261306/

Beacool

(30,250 posts)
43. Newsweek hasn't been worth the paper it's printed on for a long time.
Wed Aug 22, 2012, 10:04 AM
Aug 2012

Having said that, what's the outrage about? Is it because it's about Obama? There's no civility left in politics anyway. I don't recall anyone here complaining about the sexist Palin cover, or using a photo of Michelle Bachmann that made her look deranged (although she doesn't need much help in that department) or their previous issue calling Romney a wimp. Newsweek has never been "fair and balanced". I'm surprised that they went after Obama, that's akin to a right wing publication going after Paul Ryan (not that it'll ever happen).

That's why people are sick of politics, it's not about helping the nation, it's all about acquiring and staying in power.

A pox on all their heads!!!

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