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Related: About this forumNewsweek goes negative on Obama: 'Hit The Road, Barack'
Niall Ferguson's piece is on the Newsweek cover
The voters now face a stark choice. They can let Barack Obamas rambling, solipsistic narrative continue until they find themselves living in some American version of Europe, with low growth, high unemployment, even higher debtand real geopolitical decline.
Or they can opt for real change: the kind of change that will end four years of economic underperformance, stop the terrifying accumulation of debt, and reestablish a secure fiscal foundation for American national security.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2012/08/19/niall-ferguson-on-why-barack-obama-needs-to-go.html
demgrrrll
(3,590 posts)liberalmuse
(18,672 posts)Who is this piece of shit writing this pile of garbage?
Arrrrrgh! I think I've had my fill of outrage for the next month - and that was just from crap I've read in the past hour. Fuck Akins and fuck Ferguson.
TroyD
(4,551 posts)He admits at the beginning of his piece that he is a Republican and worked for McCain in 2008, but what surprises me is that Newsweek would put this on their cover. It really should just be an opinion piece inside. Putting it on the cover makes it look like the magazine is endorsing his views.
It's also somewhat disrespectful to refer to the President by his first name on the cover.
One of the 99
(2,280 posts)As is Tina Brown.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)Unless it has already lost all the liberal subscribers.
Fla Dem
(23,711 posts)They weren't as bad as TIME but they sure weren't giving the liberals any breaks.
Andrew08
(4 posts)How is it disrespectful to refer to the president by his first name? He's just a man, a public servant actually. I'm pretty sure we've all been calling the former president "W," "George," and "Junior" for the past decade. They're not kings or the Pope, they're elected officials, nothing to revere.
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dennis4868
(9,774 posts)who planned total obstruction to any progress on the night of the Inauguraton in 2009 must be laughing at this cover story...their plan worked better than thety could ever have imagined that it would work. This article is the most fact free and utter nonsense I have ever read.
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)'Cause that's the only place for a pro-Republican puff piece like that.
TroyD
(4,551 posts)They are really promoting it on their Twitter feed :
https://twitter.com/Newsweek
FightingIrish
(2,716 posts)I'll find something else. This is beyond bad journalism. It's a rag in distress.
TroyD
(4,551 posts)It's getting some negative backlash on Twitter. Quite a few people are objecting to the cover and saying they will not be supporting Newsweek anymore.
It's also disrespectful to call the President by his first name like that.
msongs
(67,421 posts)The democrats want 4 more years, so what do they intend to do if they get them? It can't be all about attacking romney/ryan
as in "If I am elected here is what I want to accomplish in the next 4 years"?
fasttense
(17,301 posts)whose numbers don't add up and who wants to steal from the middle class and poor to give to the uber rich. He wants to put woman back into the year 1800 and make sure everyone but the uber rich suffer austerity.
You want to know what Obama's plan is? Pay attention. If you don't know what his plan is it's because you have not been paying attention. Here's a link.
http://www.democrats.org/about/party_platform
Merely repeating a RepubliCON talking point does not convince anyone of anything.
NYC Liberal
(20,136 posts)TroyD
(4,551 posts)What I think is most disrespectful is that it says 'Hit the Road, Barack'.
You shouldn't call the President (or anyone else for that matter) by his first name unless you know him personally.
If you want to write something like this you should at least say 'Hit the Road, Obama'.
Zoeisright
(8,339 posts)mikekohr
(2,312 posts)craigmatic
(4,510 posts)Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Wow.
I mean, if I need to get the fresh pop on Pippa, or the dish on Kate's new Posh trouser ensemble, sure. But for actual, real News pertinent to politically-minded citizens of the USA?
Pffffffffffffffffffffffffffft. That thing is a fucking JOKE.
blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)We saw the kind of worthless Rag Newsweek was becoming way back then.
DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)Watch these same bastards call for a new respect for the president, which is a nice way of saying "ya'll know Barack was never legit."
thecentristword
(187 posts)Desperate attempt to be relavent? If anybody read it, it might be a problem
center rising
(971 posts)Maeve
(42,286 posts)Proud Liberal Dem
(24,422 posts)This is clearly just a trash piece with no apparent sense of objectivity about Barack Obama's Presidency to date nor willingness to place responsibility on other factors beyond President Obama's control- i.e. global economic problems, "job creators" not really creating jobs (even after President Obama reluctantly agreeing to a two-year extension of Bush's 2001 & 2003 tax cuts in order to get additional unemployment), the totally unnecessary and destructive "debt ceiling debacle" initiated by House Republicans 2011, as well as their failure to pass spending bills in a timely manner and attempts to shut down the government, GOP obstructionism, particularly in the Senate, making Congress- the necessary mechanism in passing legislation to potentially solve our problems and ensuring that government agencies have the necessary personnel to function- almost as useful as a paperweight (though a paperweight is what it is- Congress has more power and responsibility). I refuse to trust any analysis that does not take these kinds of things into account and assign appropriate responsibility. We can look back over the last 3-4 years and maybe find a few things that President Obama might have done different/better that might have potentially changed things for the better but until/unless he really has willing partners to work with in Congress- Democrats AND Republicans- I'm willing to cut him a little slack. He has done some impressive things with little or no cooperation from the opposition and there is no doubt in my mind that, whatever his shortcomings/flaws might be, I want HIM- not Mitt Romney/Paul Ryan- calling the shots from the big seat in the Oval Office for the next 4 years!
outsideworld
(601 posts)boycott
Jennicut
(25,415 posts)She is the editor in chief. She has always been sleazy.
WI_DEM
(33,497 posts)them, but this conservative writer does have a man crush on Ryan.
dennis4868
(9,774 posts)are spending the day debunking all the lies in that Newsweek cover story...there are so many lies it's incredible.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)constantly refer to ryan as "serious"? Because he put some numbers (that don't work and haven't a shot in hell of passing) on paper?
I always thought being serious about governing would be putting forward something that is internally consistent (i.e., the numbers work out) and possible.
Flatpicker
(894 posts)And will stop at nothing to make it so.
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Ruby the Liberal
(26,219 posts)Have a nice day.
pintobean
(18,101 posts)Newsbusters did a story on this and linked to this and another thread on the subject. I suspect that some wingnuts won't be able to resist the urge.
Ruby the Liberal
(26,219 posts)Thanks for the heads up. Will put this thread in the mental 'flypaper' file.
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Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)leftynyc
(26,060 posts)She can't help but go for the "shock" effect. I'm guessing years of the British tabloids are infecting her brain. I always thought she was an overrated hack and one of the fastest ways to get me to change a channel is to see her face on any panel.
Flatpicker
(894 posts)Last edited Tue Aug 21, 2012, 04:22 PM - Edit history (1)
Douglas Carpenter
(20,226 posts)Here is a link to the article in the Atlantic:
A Full Fact-Check of Niall Ferguson's Very Bad Argument Against Obama from the Atlantic
http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2012/08/a-full-factcheck-of-niall-fergusons-very-bad-argument-against-obama/261306/
Beacool
(30,250 posts)Having said that, what's the outrage about? Is it because it's about Obama? There's no civility left in politics anyway. I don't recall anyone here complaining about the sexist Palin cover, or using a photo of Michelle Bachmann that made her look deranged (although she doesn't need much help in that department) or their previous issue calling Romney a wimp. Newsweek has never been "fair and balanced". I'm surprised that they went after Obama, that's akin to a right wing publication going after Paul Ryan (not that it'll ever happen).
That's why people are sick of politics, it's not about helping the nation, it's all about acquiring and staying in power.
A pox on all their heads!!!