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bigtree

(86,006 posts)
Wed Oct 28, 2015, 09:07 PM Oct 2015

Martin O’Malley responds to Hillary Clinton’s support for the death penalty

Eric Bradner @ericbradner
A Dem split on the death penalty: @HillaryClinton is critical but would keep it; @MartinOMalley would abolish it. https://t.co/6Mj8lJbSuh


Sam Stein ?@samsteinhp 6h6 hours ago
O’Malley responds to Clinton’s support for the death penalty




Alex Seitz-Wald @aseitzwald
More Clinton in NH: "I do not favor abolishing" death penalty, just making it "very limited."


O'Malley for NH ?@omalleyfornh 4h4 hours ago
FLASHBACK: "Repealing Death Penalty Was A “Major Achievement For @MartinOMalley Who Pushed Hard For It.” https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-much-needed-demise-of-marylands-death-penalty/2013/03/25/71b12b70-919e-11e2-bdea-e32ad90da239_story.html … #nhpolitics




Martin O'Malley ?@MartinOMalley 6h6 hours ago
I abolished the death penalty in Maryland because it is fundamentally at odds with our values. #ActionsNotWords


Martin O'Malley ?@MartinOMalley 6h6 hours ago
The death penalty is racially biased & an ineffective deterrent. I repealed it in MD & would do the same as Pres.
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Martin O’Malley responds to Hillary Clinton’s support for the death penalty (Original Post) bigtree Oct 2015 OP
I abolished the death penalty in Maryland because it is fundamentally at odds with our values. elleng Oct 2015 #1
when he's right he's right. Vattel Oct 2015 #2
I don't see how anyone can legitimately claim to take a stand for racial justice and support the DP loyalsister Oct 2015 #3
But I can see how someone could falsely claim to, and support the death penalty Scootaloo Oct 2015 #7
You might could see it but nobody does it. moobu2 Oct 2015 #9
Quick on the defensive there, moobu2. Scootaloo Oct 2015 #10
I agree loyalsister Oct 2015 #18
the difference could not be more clear. nt restorefreedom Oct 2015 #4
more triangulation from Clinton Doctor_J Oct 2015 #5
How's it triangulation she's for somthing that's very unpopular in the party bigdarryl Oct 2015 #6
She is for something with qualifications...what is wrong with that? I think that is a very honest kelliekat44 Oct 2015 #8
Putting innocent people on death row isn't going to bring those kids back. frylock Oct 2015 #11
Wow!!! nt kelliekat44 Oct 2015 #14
Yes, it must be shocking for you to learn that innocent people are being wrongfully charged.. frylock Oct 2015 #15
Yeah, realizing that revenge and resurrection are different things can be a little shocking Scootaloo Oct 2015 #23
It's the very definition of triangulation Doctor_J Oct 2015 #13
This is a huge contribution to the national conversation loyalsister Oct 2015 #19
Gallop released a poll in 2014 that showed Maryland is the 2nd most Democratic state moobu2 Oct 2015 #12
Actually, it was incredibly hard to get passed in Maryland. askew Oct 2015 #16
right bigtree Oct 2015 #24
You're VERY anti-death penalty, but it's not that big an issue for you? Scootaloo Oct 2015 #20
The executive branch doesn't pass out death sentences. moobu2 Oct 2015 #21
Well, not to Americans anyway. Scootaloo Oct 2015 #22
By tomorrow night Hillary will abolish the death penalty Rosa Luxemburg Oct 2015 #17

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
3. I don't see how anyone can legitimately claim to take a stand for racial justice and support the DP
Wed Oct 28, 2015, 09:32 PM
Oct 2015

More people of color, arrested, and poor means that there is a greater chance that they would be sentenced to death than a white person. If a person knows about these biases and is not horrified, there is something very wrong.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
7. But I can see how someone could falsely claim to, and support the death penalty
Wed Oct 28, 2015, 10:06 PM
Oct 2015

And using prisons as revenue farms, to boot.

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
18. I agree
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 12:10 AM
Oct 2015

I find it difficult to believe that such a person has no idea that they are participating in modern slavery.
And, if a person can't bring themself to say "Black Lives Matter" there is no way I can trust them.

 

bigdarryl

(13,190 posts)
6. How's it triangulation she's for somthing that's very unpopular in the party
Wed Oct 28, 2015, 09:52 PM
Oct 2015

She could of said shes.against it just because that's where the party is but she didn't do that so I disagree with your assessment on here.

 

kelliekat44

(7,759 posts)
8. She is for something with qualifications...what is wrong with that? I think that is a very honest
Wed Oct 28, 2015, 10:13 PM
Oct 2015

position to take. I am more in line with that position. I really was against the death penalty until Sandy Hook.

frylock

(34,825 posts)
15. Yes, it must be shocking for you to learn that innocent people are being wrongfully charged..
Wed Oct 28, 2015, 10:42 PM
Oct 2015

placed on death row, and than murdered by the state. But go ahead and make a compelling argument for the death penalty. I'm listening.

loyalsister

(13,390 posts)
19. This is a huge contribution to the national conversation
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 12:16 AM
Oct 2015

The death penalty has not been discussed much except in a context of particular incidents during presidential campaigns.
It is time to address it with the problems we have seen recently.

moobu2

(4,822 posts)
12. Gallop released a poll in 2014 that showed Maryland is the 2nd most Democratic state
Wed Oct 28, 2015, 10:27 PM
Oct 2015

and Omalley had large Democratic majorities in both state houses, so it wasn't that hard to get his agenda through. It wouldn't be that way on the Federal level, but anyway, the president would have very little influence on the >state< death penalty laws. I'm VERY anti-death penalty, but Hillary not supporting it's abolishment wouldn't matter much to me at all.

askew

(1,464 posts)
16. Actually, it was incredibly hard to get passed in Maryland.
Wed Oct 28, 2015, 11:36 PM
Oct 2015

NAACP credited O'Malley with pushing it through after it failed the first time.

And quite frankly, deciding your position on polls not what is morally right is exactly what is wrong with Hillary. Serious lack of prinicples.

bigtree

(86,006 posts)
24. right
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 07:15 AM
Oct 2015

...people don't realize just how entrenched conservatives are in my state. We harbor the worst of the worst along with our majority Democratic brethren. The legislature has always been divided and we lost a lot of ground in the last election.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
20. You're VERY anti-death penalty, but it's not that big an issue for you?
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 12:23 AM
Oct 2015

or at least not enough for you to look at either candidate speaking against it?

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
22. Well, not to Americans anyway.
Thu Oct 29, 2015, 03:31 AM
Oct 2015

However, I'm under the understanding that there are a lot of things the executive CAN do. Which is why issues like this are a feature of presidential campaigns.

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