After walking side by side with MLK

[INdemo]

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it's really difficult to understand why John Lewis is endorsing Hillary.

On edit: Has anyone given any thought to the fact that if MLK were alive today he probably would not Endorse Hillary?

[giftedgirl77]

1. He explained that very clearly when he endorsed her.

[luvspeas]

105. After walking side by side with MLK, INdemo must have slipped and fallen on his head...

[giftedgirl77]

113. I really don't understand why they have to imply

such nonsense when an endorsement comes out. This is really childish.

[luvspeas]

114. Nonsense and more nonsense

The op edited his post to make it from insulting then sends me a pm telling me to stop attacking him. I might consider it if he sends me a certificate of completion from a diversity training.

[giftedgirl77]

117. Lolololololol, DU should require one.

[INdemo]

123. GPUAR

[randys1]

127. Can you recap it for me in a few words, or link me to what he said, please.

I think i can guess what he said and why, but I didnt hear it, thanks.

I can do this myself, apologize for asking you to do it, i was being lazy.

plus someone just posted it, thanks

[Agschmid]

2. He explained it quite clearly.

[FSogol]

6. LOL: "I do not mean to disparage"

What does the "lib" in your user name represent?

[bigtree]

8. well, you went ahead and 'disparaged' him anyway

NOTHING about John Lewis's character, actions, or experience has been 'politically expedient.'

Spouting horseshit is one way to introduce yourself to this forum.

[bigtree]

14. you 'obviously' know next to nothing about the man

...I can 'substantiate' that.

[bigtree]

16. you first

...saying Lewis is being 'politically expedient' doesn't make it so.

You made the charge. You back it up with proof.

[NCTraveler]

19. While I think you are overall very wrong in what you are saying.

I'm sick to this day of the point you make with "C."

People all over this board thought it was a great move for them to back Crist. It really pissed me off.

[NCTraveler]

24. He is at no risk in reelection and I find that aspect of your arguement to be offensive.

Once again, he is at no risk in reelection.

[NCTraveler]

30. They aren't even close to the same.

You are comparing apples to oranges. No, he is safe as could be. He isn't a bought man as you are suggesting.

[Agschmid]

67. And they are gone...

Go figure.

[FSogol]

74. Ham and Cheese!

[restorefreedom]

49. there is NO doubt in my mind about that.

she can taste this, and universe help anyone who gets in her way.

[bigtree]

20. none of those say anything about John Lewis

...Lewis' income after decades in Congress actually suggests that money isn't his primary motivation in life.

As for his other motivations for public service, there are countless accounts of his career and life experience which deeply contradict your attempt to portray him as needy or craven.

[luvspeas]

60. A little word of advise...

Any time you make unsubstantiated assumptions around here about a democrat or progressive be prepared to have your own horseshit shoveled back at you. No offense intended. Keep a thick skin and be prepared to back up what you say and you'll be OK.

That is unless you post in the pro-Bernie group. Then you can say anything you want so long as the moderators like it. If not, you'll get banned.

[luvspeas]

63. you won't last long around here little one...

This kind of attitude gets old around here.

[randys1]

128. What did the brain surgeon (cough) say? I missed the fun

[DemocratSinceBirth]

12. My, friend, when folks are in despair they lash out, often indiscriminately.

Is it right ? No. But understandable when seen through those lens.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

18. Well

I do not mean to disparage Mr. Lewis in any way when I say this I do not mean to disparage Mr. Lewis in any way when I say this but he is concerned about keeping his job.

He won his last election with 84% of the vote.


http://preview.tinyurl.com/or2k6dd

[mythology]

32. Yeah a guy who was arrested 40 times and had his skull fractured

Is likely to be intimidated. Good god are some people desperate to come up with any justification to not admit that the other candidates aren't evil.

It's pathetic that you think you can in any meaningful sense impugn the reputation of a man like John Lewis because you want to stomp your feet over the fact that your preferred candidate is losing in the polls.

[workinclasszero]

45. I can't believe we have to have John Lewis attack posts

on the democratic underground.

The OP's insinuations about John Lewis are outrageous!

[bravenak]

106. You see it too, then?

I am outraged!!

[workinclasszero]

108. Yes and this pathetic embarrassing

Screed against John Lewis of all people!

Still stands! It's sickening!

[bravenak]

109. No shame in some cases, you know?

This will lure black voters, though. Just you wait and see! Nothing we like more than disparaging our civil rights heroes!

[workinclasszero]

111. Right

I can't say what I'd really like to because I'd get a hide for sure but..

Without the Obama coalition no democratic candidate including Bernie will ever get the nomination.

And when Bernie fans get tired of beating up Hillary they naturally jump right into beating up the President.

The just can't help it.

[bravenak]

112. Me too. And I know I will get alerted on if I say more.

[giftedgirl77]

118. Isn't it sad, I walk a very fine line & still get told I'm

a meany.

[bravenak]

120. Me too. We need to form a club.

I swear we are nice as hell. As long as we get the respect we are due. I see no reason it shoukd not be so that we get the proper respect. I find myself having to demand the same level of respect other get. Time consuming. And so nasty to me.

[giftedgirl77]

122. I know right? I'm just very blunt & don't mince or

sugarcoat anything. Apparently if you don't jump on the proper bandwagon you're evil.

[bravenak]

124. Uh oh! Plus we laugh too much!

How could we not? They crack me up all day.

[giftedgirl77]

126. I know, if they think a couple of ppl calling me mean or brash

is going to hurt my feelings they are sorely mistaken. Hell my mom would roast them in a hot minute.

[bravenak]

129. Ha!

Mean. Yeah. Okay. Look whose talking about mean.
Nan one of them can point the finger on mean. Not without hundreds pointing back.

[randys1]

130. White privilege means if you make us uncomfortable, we get to shout you down.

[giftedgirl77]

133. Apparently that's why someone pulled that shit in AA forum.

She didn't like what 2 black posters were telling her so she tried to get more suitable answers. It back fired terribly.

[Gothmog]

42. That claim is very very offensive

John Lewis is in a very safe seat and is not endorsing Hillary Clinton due to fear. The premise of this post is simply wrong and sad

[NCTraveler]

4. Seriously?

Walking side by side with MLK means one is entitled to the endorsement of AA's?

I think an extremely good case could be made for him to endorse all of our candidates. Seems Lewis made his case. I don't get the thoughts of entitlement for protesting with millions of others. Awesome what Sanders did. Acting as if he is owed payback takes away from why Sanders was doing it.

[JaneyVee]

5. Go read the endorsement.

[SidDithers]

9. ...

When I set off to march across the Edmund Pettus bridge in Selma, Alabama, 50 years ago, I did so with the knowledge that I might not come back alive.

But I also knew that what we were trying to accomplish was vital to holding on to the promise of our country: that every person, regardless of race, had a say in their government.

I could never have guessed that in the year 2015, I’d be fighting essentially the same fight all over again.

While Republican candidates keep insisting that there isn’t a problem, Hillary Clinton has committed to turning the tide in favor of expanding voting rights for all Americans. That’s why I’m proud to be a part of this week's launch of African Americans for Hillary -- and I hope you’ll join me.

I was proud to hear Hillary reaffirm her commitment to protecting voting rights in Alabama recently at the Alabama Democratic Conference Convention -- as well as to reforming our criminal justice system and advocating for funding for historically black colleges and universities.

I look forward to fighting for her the way she’s fighting for all of us. That starts right here, when you stand with her.

African Americans for Hillary is a group of supporters making that commitment right now -- because we know how important Hillary’s campaign is to our values and our communities. Will you join me?




Join African Americans for Hillary

Thank you,

John Lewis

Sid

[MohRokTah]

37. I don't think the OP gets it.

[randys1]

131. I like how he ties this to voting. Do people know that millions of African Americans are being

targeted and likely will lose their right to vote?

Do you know that, people?

What John is saying is he is a big picture fellow, in effect.

I think Bernie would do the same, but John likes Hillary and John knows more than I do, that is for sure.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

10. It is my dispassionate observation that condescension is not an effective interpersonal strategy.

eom

[MineralMan]

13. While I did not walk side-by-side with MLK,

I was in Selma and heard his "How long" speech in person in Montgomery. John Lewis has his experience to draw on, and he has endorsed Hillary Clinton. Why anyone would second guess his decision is beyond me. He knows his own mind better than anyone else possibly can, and has made his decision.

I also support Hillary Clinton in this primary season. That I stood in a crowd and listened to Dr. King speak has nothing to do with it. It's a matter of winning the election for me. Hillary Clinton can, and will win against whatever Clown Car occupant the GOP nominates. I'm very, very confident of that. That is my reason for supporting her.

When Democrats are in the White House, this society moves forward. When Republicans hold that office we step backwards. John Lewis knows his own mind just fine, I'm sure. He has endorsed Hillary. I hope that helps her win this election. That's all that matters for the next four years.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

23. A literal reading of the seminal post suggests the author walked with Dr. King./nt

[MineralMan]

38. I think the OP title was poorly worded.

I think it referred to John Lewis, not the author. That was my interpretation.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

39. Am I correct in stating that a literal interpretation suggests the seminal poster...

Am I correct in stating that a literal interpretation suggests the seminal poster marched with Dr. King?

[MineralMan]

47. It could certainly be read that way.

People often make mistakes like that, though. It's one of the most common errors in English. Just going on likelihood, I interpreted to mean John Lewis as the person who marched with MLK. Very few people marched side-by-side with him, really. I didn't even join the main march over the Edmund Pettus Bridge. I didn't feel qualified to be in that group. I got to the location of the speech just in time to hear Dr. King from near the back of the crowd. As a 19-year-old white kid from California, I didn't feel comfortable except in the background that day. I was way out of the mainstream of people who were there.

[leftofcool]

22. Oh Boy!

Here it comes again.

[Bobbie Jo]

26. Perhaps someone should call his office...

[DemocratSinceBirth]

28. FIXED

Perhaps someone should call his office, again...

[Sheepshank]

86. oh yeah...please call his office n/t

[Number23]

136. LOL!!

[luvspeas]

27. You do realize that your statement is offensive, don't you?...

Good golly. I'm starting to feel like a broken record.

Walking with MLK has nothing to do with an endorsement of Hillary or anyone else. Your statement is a veiled attempt to say that a Black person should only have the ability to make decisions that involve Black people in one way or the other-in the way YOU think they should. You are trying to control the behaviour of someone by scolding them and you should reserve that for your children when they eat too much trick or treat candy-not adult human beings.

JEEZ!

[DemocratSinceBirth]

29. 10

[Gothmog]

41. I agree-I found the OP to be offensive

[NuclearDem]

31. It's clearly Stockholm Syndrome.

[WIProgressive88]

33. John Lewis is an American hero, and I would have loved for him to have endorsed Bernie, but he has a

right to endorse whomever he chooses. Let's not attack the judgment, character, or motives of this hero because he endorsed Hillary.

[mythology]

34. After looking at the biography of John Lewis,

It's really difficult to understand what makes you think you deserve to question his motives because he didn't endorse your preferred candidate.

[randys1]

132. Best response ...I am a fan

[Godhumor]

35. Please take a minute and really think about why this might be a horrible OP n/t

[MohRokTah]

36. I guess he isn's as morally superior as Sanders.

[Gothmog]

40. It is not difficult at all

Hillary Clinton has done a great deal for civil rights. The polling shows that Hillary Clinton has a overwhelming support of African American and Latino voters. Here speech in May in Houston on Voting Rights was amazing and the proposals made by Hillary Clinton to protect voting rights are well reasoned.

[1StrongBlackMan]

69. And the attitude displayed in the above OP ...

might explain why, for the segment of politically engaged African-Americans who are consistently exposed to it.

[Chitown Kev]

43. Actually, John Lewis can support whomever the hell he wants

he got the knots and bruises upside his head for the freedom to do that...and not one of us is in a position to question him.

Doesn't mean that we have to share his opinion on the matter but what...you're going to school John Lewis on civil rights or something...good luck with that...

[DemocratSinceBirth]

48. He has doubled down.

After walking side by side with MLK

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it's really difficult to understand why John Lewis is endorsing Hillary.

On edit: Has anyone given any thought to the fact that if MLK were alive today he probably would not Endorse Hillary?

It's not enough for the original poster to question how black folks think, he now wants to resurrect the dead ones to tell them what to think too...

SMH

[workinclasszero]

59. Any they wonder why Bernie gets no traction with PoC?

SMH

[DemocratSinceBirth]

65. I really wish they would stop to think how patronizing it sounds.

Nobody wants to be talked down to.

[luvspeas]

82. Ikr...I really wish this thread would die...

The thread needs diversity training. Jk

[luvspeas]

44. why would a British department store endorse Hillary?

[LexVegas]

46. John Lewis needs some good old paternalism. nt

[pintobean]

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[rbrnmw]

125. That so wrong on so many levels

It should have been hidden

[randys1]

134. NOt even one to hide, what a FUCKING disgrace

[bravenak]

51. You have no CLUE who MLK would endose and for you to disparage a great man like this...

Truly shows your character.

[AgingAmerican]

52. Doubtful MLK would endorse someone who represents the status quo

A pretty safe bet he would not endorse someone who represents the oligarchy.

[bravenak]

53. Like a thirty year legislator who voted for Mass incarceration like Sanders?

[AgingAmerican]

56. He has fought against mass incarceration since the drug war started

Meanwhile Hillary has private prison executives fund raising for her.

MLK wouldn't let hate and anger cloud his judgement and poison his integrity. Doubtful MLK would share your personal prejudices toward Sanders.

[bravenak]

57. HE VOTED FOR MASS INCARCERATION. PERIOD.

[AgingAmerican]

75. No he didn't

He fought against it ALONE for decades.

Meanwhile Hillary has the mass incarceration people doing her fund raising.

[bravenak]

76. YES HE DID. HE VOTED FOR THE CRIME BILL. PERIOD.

[AgingAmerican]

81. Bernie Sanders has fought against mass incarceration for decades

Most of the time alone. Contrast with your candidate who has the private prison industry in charge of her fundraising.

Also, MLK was a Democratic socialist.

[bravenak]

83. BERNIE SANDERS VOTED FOR THE CRIME BILL LEADING TO MASS INCARCERATION.

Let us not lie about his record. I am more Malcolm than Martin so bringing up stuff about MLK is laughable when coming from a white person trying to school a black person on MLK. I CAN read.

[randys1]

135. You keep forgetting about white privilege, dont you...It explains why white people can lecture BLACK

people about MLK

I mean it is fucking hysterical when you really think about it

[beam me up scottie]

98. He voted for it because of the Violence Against Women Act and AW ban:

Sanders opposed the Violent Crime Prevention Act of 1991 during his first year in the U.S. House of Representatives.

"All over the industrialized world now, countries are saying, ‘let us put an end to state murder, let us stop capital punishment’," Sanders said in a 1991 speech on the House floor. "But here what we’re talking about is more and more capital punishment."

The bill, which included provisions to authorize the death penalty as appropriate punishment for crimes involving the murder of a law enforcement officer, terrorism and drug trafficking, never reached the desk of President George H.W. Bush.

In 1994, however, Sanders voted in favor of the final version of the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act, a bill that expanded the federal death penalty. Sanders had voted for an amendment to the bill that would have replaced all federal death sentences with life in prison. Even though the amendment failed, Sanders still voted for the larger crime bill.

A spokesman for Sanders said he voted for the bill "because it included the Violence Against Women Act and the ban on certain assault weapons."

http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2015/sep/02/viral-image/where-do-hillary-clinton-and-bernie-sanders-stand-/

Some folks don't want to know the truth.

[1StrongBlackMan]

70. Nor, would he have endorsed Bernie ...

Martin Luther King, pointedly, stated he did not endorse ANY political candidate.

[AgingAmerican]

79. I believe he would endorse Bernie

MLK was a Democratic Socialist. He stated he would have endorsed Kennedy for a second term had he lived. He most likely would have endorses Bobby Kennedy too, had he lived.

In 1964, King urged his supporters "and all people of goodwill" to vote against Republican Senator Barry Goldwater for president, saying that his election "would be a tragedy, and certainly suicidal almost, for the nation and the world."

At the time he said it, Hillary was working for the Goldwater campaign.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Luther_King,_Jr.

[1StrongBlackMan]

84. Uhmm ... Nope! ...

From your link: "King adds that he likely would have made an exception to his non-endorsement policy for a second Kennedy term." As in: He might have changed his position from:

http://www.thekingcenter.org/archive/document/mlks-statement-endorsing-1960-presidential-candidate

What does what a teenager was doing 50years ago have to do with anything?

[Rose Siding]

110. Oddly, JFK made Sanders nauseous.

Wonder if MLK would have taken that into consideration before he endorsed Bernie. Not that I'm arrogant enough to draw any conclusions about the man.

[AgingAmerican]

137. I don't think MLK did drama

nt

[DemocratSinceBirth]

87. Respectfully, what standing do you have to presume who Dr. King would or wouldn't endorse?

And do you think it's presumptuous for you to speak for him when your life experience and his life experience couldn't be more different?

Thank you in advance...


Oh, if you are going to try to turn this around on me and suggest I am presuming to speak for Dr. King, please don't, as I am not nowhere close to being as presumptuous enough to speak for him.

[bravenak]

88. I appreciate you making that correction.

We cannot know what the great Reverend Doctor would do.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

89. We can look at his closest confidantes that are still alive.

We can look at two of his lieutenants that are still alive, Andy Young and John Lewis, and they are both endorsing Hillary...But I don't believe even they would be presumptuous enough to speak for Dr. King.

[bravenak]

90. I agree.

I try not to speak for civil rughts legends.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

91. I try not to speak for people who can't speak for themselves because they are gone...

I also think it like speaking for God... Ask someone what God is like and he or she will tell you he's like an idealized version of himself or herself...He's kind, caring and wise...

[DemocratSinceBirth]

94. You missed her speech today...

It was a predominately black crowd and BLM started to shout but the other people in the crowd shouted over them...But here's the kicker!!! Hillary said they make a lot of good points and addressed them...

She knows how to play the game.

[bravenak]

95. She did AWSEOME, Imo.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141247104#post2

[DemocratSinceBirth]

97. She reminds me of Al Gore. He was better and more relaxed among black crowds than white ones...

Familiarity!!!


She was much, much...much better today than at the Jefferson-Jackson Dinner.

Oh, they are discussing how she reacted to the shouting on MSNBC right now.

[bravenak]

99. It's crazy how at home she seems with black crowds. It really feels like we are family in a way.

I know people make fun of her accent but it never bothers me. Black folks also have different way of speaking based on the crowd or location. Or comfortability level. I felt more like she was a part of the crowd rather than a humorless candidate doing a stump speech. She has great situational awareness.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

101. Because her and her husband have spent a lot of time around black folk...

Here's an interesting read. I gave it to 1SBM to read.... Ignore the title...Her three closed friends and confidantes are two black women and a brown woman:

http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2015/10/hillary-clinton-inside-circle-huma-abedin

[bravenak]

104. I will. Thank you.

[Starry Messenger]

54. Why don't you call him and ask him?

We'll await the answer.

[1StrongBlackMan]

71. Whoa ... I'd love to hear Lewis' response! n/t

[Starry Messenger]

100. Same here!

I'm sure he finds all the sudden concern about his choices in life to be just fascinating!

[1StrongBlackMan]

103. I wonder which Lewis will present ...

The smart and acid tongued, take no crap, legislator, or the guy we all know we would hate to meet in a dark alley, unless he was on our side?

[Starry Messenger]

107. Maybe we could get the op to record the call.

The might have to call several times to get an answer, but I'm sure Lewis will appreciate the persistence. And then we will know for sure!

[1StrongBlackMan]

116. LOL ... I suspect if there is more than one call and a message is left ...

we know which Lewis will come out! And it won't be pretty.

[jalan48]

55. Black voters make up an important bloc of the Democratic Party.

The DNC has sent the message that if you want to be a player in the Party you need to throw your weight behind the Third Way faction. Lewis and other black politicians are only doing what they see as politically expedient to maintain or increase their power. They see the future of black political power in the Third Way-not in the Progressive movement.

[luvspeas]

62. Who are these black politicians of which you speak?....

Are you actually asserting that ALL "black politicians" only make decisions based on increasing or maintaining their personal power?

DU needs some diversity training ASAP.

[jalan48]

119. I think ALL politicians do this, color is immaterial.

[mcar]

115. Wow

[luvspeas]

58. Really? You took it from bad to worse!

No one has given thought to that because it's irrelevant. I don't think about that anymore than I would think about if Karl Marx would vote for you know whooooo.

[MisterP]

64. again, it's the illusion that Clinton's *the* sole candidate

they can't really acknowledge the Sanders campaign as even a campaign, let alone a full-bore attack on party and national politics as usual

[1StrongBlackMan]

66. Well ... take heart ...

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Liebermann and McConnell marched side by side with Martin Luther King and they haven't endorsed HRC.

On edit: Has anyone given any thought to the fact that if MLK were alive today he probably would not Endorse Hillary?

This is very likely true ... But he wouldn't have endorsed Bernie, either! Martin Luther King made a point of NOT endorsing ANY political candidates.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

68. Martin blended radicalism with pragmatism to achieve concrete results...

I was reading this book where he was advising LBJ to pass the Voting Rights Act because the states he lost in 1964 had the highest percentage of blacks who couldn't vote. He was a doer and a dreamer.


BTW, bro, I could be wrong but it was Mitch McConnell who attended the March On Washington as did Charlton Heston.

[JI7]

73. Did you mean Mitch McConnell ?

Mcconnell marched with king but i haven't heard boehner doing it.

[1StrongBlackMan]

77. Oops ... Yes. n/t

[Gothmog]

80. You are using facts against a sad talking point

[JI7]

72. MLK and John LEwis marched so they could vote for whoever the fuck they want to

[HassleCat]

78. Mutually beneficial relationships

Same reason Clinton gets endorsements from organized labor. When it comes down to the nitty-gritty, Clinton will not do much for unions, but she's with them in spirit.

[Sheepshank]

85. Not only did Lewis unequivocally endorse her, but went further

..and created a new group AA's for Hillary. He is all in and for very very good reason.

No need to disparage anyone because you don't like their choices. Did it ever occur to you that you may be the one who has made the poor choice?

[Robbins]

96. no

I know full well after 23 years whose side she is on and it clearly isn't on me and others of the 99%

after you and fellow clinton supporters attacking all bernie supporters as racist or sexist we aren't going to listen to those like
you questioning our judgement.

Clinton will care about blacks as president as much as she has throughout her entire carrer which is 0.and about as much as dems
In missouri did after michael brown shooting supporting racist police and racist prosecutor.

[nolabear]

92. I swear the word "probably" is all you hear regarding Hillary.

I'm exhausted with it.

[MineralMan]

93. Just to clarify, did you walk side by side with MLK,

or are you referring to John Lewis doing so. Your sentence is ungrammatical if it's John Lewis to whom you are referring. There has been some confusion about your meaning in the thread.

Further, your edit is presumptuous. I doubt that you are in any way qualified to predict what Dr. King would do if he had not been assassinated by a racist.

[luvspeas]

102. OMG! I just saw the that! So funny!

It's pretty freaking obvious the OP did not walk side by side with MLK because if he had he wouldn't be wasting his time on DU continuously insulting people.

[H2O Man]

121. Words have meaning.

Hence, they can be used correctly, or they can be used incorrectly. Let's look at an example.

You state as "fact" that King would not have endorsed a specific candidate. Yet, in no sense whatsoever is that a "fact." Indeed, it is not even your "opinion," for an opinion is built upon a foundation of knowledge. Hence, in court, only those recognized as "experts" can offer an opinion.

Why is this? Quite simply because other people, especially those who are woefully ignorant about a given subject, do not have opinions, they instead have a "bias." And, by no coincidence, the "fact" you state only serves to document your bias.

Even those most familiar with King could -- at very best -- speculate upon who he might or might not endorse today. And no one familiar with him, including with his voter registration and his political leanings, would ever dare do more than speculate.

I say this as a person who has not endorsed any presidential candidate for 2016; who has more of a solid education about King than you could possibly have; and who's close friend -- who knew King well -- met with Ms. Clinton a few years ago, and came away with a very high opinion of her.

[JI7]

138. lecture john lewis on mlk