2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHillary Clinton INTERUPTED By Black Lives Matter Activists During Atlanta Rally
Hillary Clinton told the activists I have some issues and proposals to discuss if my friends will let me speak. Black Lives Matter activists interrupted Hillary Clinton's Friday afternoon campaign event, throwing a wrench into her attempt to show solidarity with the black community. Protestors chanting "Black lives matter" disrupted Clinton's Atlanta rally kicking off African Americans for Hillary, with Clinton backers responding with chants of "Hillary, Hillary" and Let her talk to drown them out.
But the protestors persisted, as Clinton tried to talk over them. "I have some issues and proposals to discuss if my friends will let me speak," Clinton said, before Rep. John Lewis (D-Ga.), a civil rights hero, attempted to calm the protestors by approaching them directly. The mostly black crowd cheered as the protestors were led out of the room. The disruption was the first time Black Lives Matter protestors have interrupted a Clinton event since she jumped into the race, though theyve protested other Democrats campaign events. And it didnt come at the best moment for her, as the event was meant to showcase Clintons strength with black voters.
The former secretary of state was in Atlanta on Friday to unveil new criminal justice reform policies and show she stands with the black community. Before the rally at Clark University where she was interrupted, shed spoken at a Rainbow PUSH luncheon hosted by Rev. Jesse Jackson. Clinton is banking on strong support with black voters to help her close out the threat from Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders after the early-voting states, when a number of heavily black southern states will vote.
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http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/black-lives-matter-activists-disrupt-hillary-clinton-rally-article-1.2418128
LiberalArkie
(15,716 posts)Agschmid
(28,749 posts)It's good she gets challenged, all our candidates should be challenged on this issue.
floriduck
(2,262 posts)a reasonable answer yet. How long can she continue to say everything her husband did was wrong until she runs out of that excuse.
randys1
(16,286 posts)sheesh...
this is getting tiresome
Segami
(14,923 posts)its nap time for you.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)you support what they did now to Hillary? Same thing, different candidate. I'm not seeing the same kind of support for them NOW that I saw from Hillary supporters THEN. So wondering why?
randys1
(16,286 posts)portlander23
(2,078 posts)frylock
(34,825 posts)portlander23
(2,078 posts)There are so many actual political philosophies to keep track of, we don't need to invent made up ones.
arcane1
(38,613 posts)Betting that the centrists will suddenly decide it's presidential to talk over them and let the crowd chant for BLM to shut up
jfern
(5,204 posts)arcane1
(38,613 posts)Segami
(14,923 posts)arcane1
(38,613 posts)pa28
(6,145 posts)Where are the howls of outrage and charges of white supremacy now? Hahaha! Just kidding! There won't be any.
joshcryer
(62,276 posts)That's insanely bizarre.
George II
(67,782 posts)....of the stage and cower. She faced them head on.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)I bet if Bernie had done the latter you'd have criticized him for that too.
Give it a rest, George.
George II
(67,782 posts)beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Remember your Bankster Bernie meme?
George II
(67,782 posts)beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)At least now I see why you always put the person's name that your responding to so you can do an instant search and pull up yesterday's news.
Nice job beam me up scottie!
Now, do you have anything of substance to contribute to this discussion about BLACK LIVES MATTER?
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)I'm just trying to help you out.
That's not how the search function works. Actually I just typed in "bankster Bernie" and voila! Your thread magically appeared!
What does Bernie have to do with what happened today, George?
Do you?
Other than using the opportunity to Bernie bash, of course.
yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)She was speaking to an African American audience about civil rights. Congressman Lewis escorted the group out while the audience applauded. In bernies case he was talking to an all white audience about economic policy. He was not prepared to discuss the topic the group wanted. Hillary was ready and prepared.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)And the other audiences weren't "all white" nor were they there to hear Bernie speak about economic policies.
I do admire how you managed to work in all the talking points, though.
You get a cookie.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)joshcryer
(62,276 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)You personally to say something wrong considering how big this issue is.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)I love what BLM has done. It's not about Clinton or Sanders, it's about people being shot in the streets. About an oppressive education and justice system. It's about......
And I think Sanders, Clinton, and O'Malley are bringing it. BLM, protesters, and dare I say rioters have taken over this primary in an extremely positive way.
stranger81
(2,345 posts)As she was having them escorted out of the room.
CharlotteVale
(2,717 posts)arcane1
(38,613 posts)CharlotteVale
(2,717 posts)sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)no? Lol!
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)What do they want Hillary to bring to the table that she hasn't already?
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)Catherina
(35,568 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)And has damn near taken over the dem primary. Very impressed.
Bobbie Jo
(14,341 posts)mcar
(42,334 posts)sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)protests seem to change depending on who the candidate was.
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)oasis
(49,388 posts)I gave you her Twitter feed.
in_cog_ni_to
(41,600 posts)Why didn't she just SIT DOWN AND STFU AND LISTEN? Then continue to keep her mouth shut? She continued talking? How dare her! How ruuuuuude!
jfern
(5,204 posts)So of course that didn't happen.
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)Here, I'll just let you see this:
https://twitter.com/AUCShutItDown/status/660178154657574912
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)joshcryer
(62,276 posts)Clinton's team probably did expect it and just told Clinton to continue speaking and forge on and wait until the audience groundswell grew. 12 minutes of BLM chanting was impressive though.
Clinton came out for a ban on racial profiling, probably saved that for her first real BLM protest.
And all the idiotic anti-BLM people out there, please don't think for a second that these proposals would be happening were it not for BLM doing these actions. BLM continues to kick ass and take names.
Number23
(24,544 posts)The same folks acting as though the nine black folks on their Twitter feeds represent the totality of black thought are now trying to make this sound as though something horrible terrible happened here.
Now this is just one article, but nothing about this seems even remotely untoward. Nobody was hurt, Hillary didn't leave the stage, this was a crowd of HUNDREDS of genuine black folks (not 12 or 20 accompanied by hilarious and tone deaf crowing about how "memes have been destroyed" and BLM was able to speak their minds for what looks like several minutes before being escorted out by security. I would have loved for them to have been allowed to stay though.
There were no screams at them, no cries for them to be jailed or tasered. And it sounds as though their issues were addressed in the speech.
So all of these concern attempts in this thread, don't come across as dishonest or opportunistic at all. Not one bit.
joshcryer
(62,276 posts)And the most fucked up part about it is that they finally got to a HRC venue which is something the anti-BLM people were most upset about that they weren't targeting HRC. Well now that they have now what? Just bullshit.
Let me reiterate: NONE OF THESE PROPOSALS WOULD BE HAPPENING WERE IT NOT FOR BLM PROTESTING.
Number23
(24,544 posts)beyond idiotic from day one.
Every single word of your posts is nothing but the truth. But there are a loud group here way too invested in pretense (that BLM was a pro-Hillary/Soros-funded group, that BLM demanded Bernie "bow down" in the literal sense of the word, that they called his supporters "white supremacists," and after FINALLY understanding how deranged they looked screaming at BLM after they had their asses handed to them by the ENTIRE FUCKING INTERNET for months on end, somehow concluded that BLM "endorsed" Bernie Sanders or that BLM said that "Bernie gets it and Hillary doesn't" to have anything resembling an honest conversation with.
Which is why so few of us even try and have long since reached the "fuck it" stage with these people. They are once again on the wrong side of justice and history and everyone knows it.
MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)what they "have" to do?
Same as her previous BLM meeting.
NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)after the Seattle protest are now apparently the movement's best friends since they're protesting Clinton.
Black lives matter. Period.
mcar
(42,334 posts)Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Sanders interaction, can you explain this and explain why his way was better than the manner Hillary handled this. Maybe explaining to BLM that Sanders interaction was much better.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)the audience. Not better at all, far, far worse. I bet my bottom biscuit you have never in your life taken part in any form of disruptive activism. I have. Dragged out by cops is very typical. Given the stage and allowed to call for a period of silence is rare as can be.
Dragged out by cops as the crowd cheered. That did not happen to those who interrupted Sanders nor O'Malley.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Discussion, nothing like NN or Seattle. BTW, I protest to get results, I know how to do this effectively.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)Obviously you have not, you lack context, real life experience, knowledge of such actions by other groups, but you lecture away anyway and just sound nonsensical, proclaiming this and that. Hot air and cheesy gas.
As I said, you have never done the sort of thing BLM does, you sneer at it. Everyone who protests protests to get results. BLM, ACT Up have gotten results. What results have you gotten?
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)I did not sneer at BLM but I read sneers here on DU.
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)jfern
(5,204 posts)Nothing like that ever happened when they protested Bernie. Double standard much?
okasha
(11,573 posts)what "dragged out" means do you? The BLM folks were all on their feet, and no one was injured.
jfern
(5,204 posts)okasha
(11,573 posts)Bernie supporters would still call them Palin supporters, radical fundamentalists and paid tools of Soros.
jfern
(5,204 posts)okasha
(11,573 posts)by Sanders supporters, who also trolled and alert trolled the supposedly protected African American group.
Pretending it didn't happen doesn't help your cause.
jfern
(5,204 posts)That people said Bernie handled the BLM protests badly and that Hillary handled yesterday well.
okasha
(11,573 posts)At the time, he had no plan to address BLM issues. He ran away.
Hillary has such a plan in place and was in Atlanta to speak about it. The demonstrators communicated their points and were heard. The crowd who had come to hear her speak made theirs. The demonstrators were ushered out without incident. No one was "dragged."
This was, in fact, a textbook lesson in doing a peaceful protest. BLM got it exactly right, and so did law enforcement.
Bernie's audience, his DU supporters, and Bernie himself got it all wrong in Seattle. Maybe you've forgotten the shouts of "Taze them?" Or the angry screeds right here on DU about law enforcement's failure to remove the BLM women from the stage in Seattle?
Double standard, indeed.
jfern
(5,204 posts)And he never got to speak in Seattle.
But for some reason that was bad, while it was good when Hillary's audience wanted to speak.
Hillary's BLM protesters didn't call anyone white supremacists.
Hillary's BLM protesters got called ignorant.
Hillary had like 3 or 4 months of more preparation for BLM.
okasha
(11,573 posts)didn't get to hear him speak because he hightailed it off the stage.
There's a good rason why Hillary's audience didn't get called white supremacists. Most of them were Black.
They stopped him from speaking for 20 minutes, and then the organizers of the event said it was over.
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)artislife
(9,497 posts)and I was checking out the responses to this event.
One of the posters, who wasn't too pleased with the Clintons linked to this article.
http://www.theaverageblackdude.com/hey-black-folk-get-a-grip/
Not being a Clinton fan, either one any more, I quite enjoyed the read and sentiment.
BootinUp
(47,156 posts)The question is whether the NY Daily has an axe to grind with Clinton. Isn't that a conservative rag?
azmom
(5,208 posts)Segami
(14,923 posts)Catherina
(35,568 posts)LWolf
(46,179 posts)To say the least.
aspirant
(3,533 posts)Talking over people and removing their input is exactly what the people can expect from HRC
How can you listen when you won't shut up