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RandySF

(59,355 posts)
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 12:40 AM Nov 2015

Hillary Is Winning: The Media and Sanders' Campaign Are Freaking Out

As Hillary appears to be increasing her lead in the Democratic primary, some of the media are looking for another way to go after her. One column is headlined Clinton goes on the offense and questions why. Other columns accuse her of doing a smear campaign against Sanders when in reality she is simply calling him and his staff to account for what they said and running a smart campaign. She is defining the differences in how they see the world and their positions on the issues.

As of this week it is clear both the media and Bernie Sanders are realizing Clinton is leading and leading big. Sanders has done what he promised he wouldn't, attacking Clinton's character rather than sticking to the issues. He is becoming what he claimed he isn't -- just another politician.

Clinton has struck a chord with the electorate by going after the NRA, an area in which she clearly differs with Sanders. Fighting the NRA isn't new for Clinton, who fought them for years while Sanders voted against the Brady bill and against allowing people to sue gun manufacturers. That is fair campaigning just as it is fair for Sanders to point out the differences in their positions on the minimum wage, he being for a federal $15 minimum wage and Clinton being for a $12 one allowing states and localities to decide if they want to go higher depending on their individual economies. Or pointing out the differences in their positions on how to deal with the big banks and allowing voters to decide which they like best.

The media will now need to invent new stories about Clinton to keep up an interest in the Democratic primary and guaranteeing TV ratings and newspaper sales. First it was Benghazi and emails, then Sanders surging, then hyping Joe Biden hoping he would run. Since all that has failed to keep people from supporting Hillary, we must assume they will try to find something to fill the void. My prediction is neither the media nor the Sanders' campaign will be able to find a way to stop Hillary because the majority of people really want her to succeed.



http://www.huffingtonpost.com/peter-d-rosenstein/hillary-is-winning-the-me_b_8484506.html

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Hillary Is Winning: The Media and Sanders' Campaign Are Freaking Out (Original Post) RandySF Nov 2015 OP
No one is "freaking out" and she will lose. Fearless Nov 2015 #1
I'm not offering an opinion of who will win or lose, SusanCalvin Nov 2015 #4
the only 'freak out' I'm seeing is Hillary fans saying everyone is freaking out roguevalley Nov 2015 #61
Heh. SusanCalvin Nov 2015 #82
oh my..you really are... riversedge Nov 2015 #87
Wonder how many OPs about us freaking out whatchamacallit Nov 2015 #2
Well, that particular poster has posted at least 5 Bernie hit pieces in this forum Art_from_Ark Nov 2015 #13
I think that threshold was surpassed awhile ago. n/t woodsprite Nov 2015 #76
Cue the freak out. JaneyVee Nov 2015 #3
So when Bernie is the nominee, will you "freak out"? Fearless Nov 2015 #5
I would probably just faint! riversedge Nov 2015 #7
You do realize that there is a long history of the "fainting" "pearl-clutching" and "vapors" comment Fearless Nov 2015 #9
Fainting is Homophobic?!? MrWendel Nov 2015 #14
No. Agschmid Nov 2015 #18
Evidently you missed that six month period. Fearless Nov 2015 #25
The statement was used to reinforce gender stereotypes Fearless Nov 2015 #28
Actually your statement is misogynist. sheshe2 Nov 2015 #16
False. Fearless Nov 2015 #24
K~ sheshe2 Nov 2015 #31
It is he silly season but what you just said is wrong and stupid! riversedge Nov 2015 #21
Actually no. I'm not. Fearless Nov 2015 #27
Better tell Aerows that: Starry Messenger Nov 2015 #38
I don't call out DUers. I disagree with the use of the phrase Fearless Nov 2015 #40
Oh, so just selective policing. Starry Messenger Nov 2015 #43
No my dear. Fearless Nov 2015 #44
The people you are excoriating upthread signed up in 2012 and after, "dear" Starry Messenger Nov 2015 #46
An ad homenium response. Fearless Nov 2015 #54
What is homenium? A new chemical element? Starry Messenger Nov 2015 #63
Grammar police in lieu of content Fearless Nov 2015 #64
Hmm, I guess expecting consistency from camp flip-flop was just too much. Starry Messenger Nov 2015 #65
What are you talking about??? Fearless Nov 2015 #66
Poor thing. Starry Messenger Nov 2015 #67
Passive aggressive ad hominem. Good night. Fearless Nov 2015 #68
Night-night! Starry Messenger Nov 2015 #69
No worries, rivers.. anybody can faint without being accused of being homophobic. Cha Nov 2015 #70
If Bernie is the nominee, SusanCalvin Nov 2015 #8
I will turn my eyes to the sky...to see those pigs fly! MADem Nov 2015 #32
If you say so. Fearless Nov 2015 #34
You can bookmark this thread, and come back and rub my nose in it if you'd MADem Nov 2015 #36
Feel free Fearless Nov 2015 #37
I've no need--I'm saying YOU can do that, if you'd like. MADem Nov 2015 #47
I have no intention of gloating. Fearless Nov 2015 #48
I think you're wrong, but time will tell. nt MADem Nov 2015 #53
On that we agree. Fearless Nov 2015 #55
Dude! I am totally freaking out about people freaking out and here I am freaking out! Luminous Animal Nov 2015 #6
The Sanders folks aren't freaking out redstateblues Nov 2015 #10
The OP says we are freaking out. Luminous Animal Nov 2015 #11
Looking at all the threads... MrWendel Nov 2015 #15
Huey would never support Hillary. Luminous Animal Nov 2015 #23
Huey... MrWendel Nov 2015 #59
Indeed. Fictional. And irrelevant. Absolutely dismissed. Zero gone dead. Luminous Animal Nov 2015 #72
It can't be that irrelevant if he was brought up in the first place... MrWendel Nov 2015 #74
Free stuff?? ksabin9325 Nov 2015 #45
Now that reads like freaking out to me. upaloopa Nov 2015 #78
Yeah, it shows. " Kicking Hillary's butt"..? Really? #berniesoscary Cha Nov 2015 #12
The flailing is kind of amusing though. Starry Messenger Nov 2015 #17
Sanders is getting upset that Hillary Clinton is winning Gothmog Nov 2015 #19
His temperament is showing.... MADem Nov 2015 #33
"Sanders has done what he promised he wouldn't, attacking Clinton's character..." riversedge Nov 2015 #20
No he's attacking her policy and substance, she, and you think it's personal. It isnt. litlbilly Nov 2015 #57
aren't you ashamed of yourself... grasswire Nov 2015 #22
Rush to anoint? Canadian and UK elections are over in the blink of an eye. MADem Nov 2015 #35
ridiculous grasswire Nov 2015 #41
Just because you use words like "ridiculous" and MADem Nov 2015 #51
you sure have a low....and classist... grasswire Nov 2015 #62
So we out with the process or conversation then eh? JackInGreen Nov 2015 #42
"So we out with the process or conversation then eh?" MADem Nov 2015 #56
Rosenstein, the author, is a member of Hillary's finance committee. He's a DC lobbyist and flack. hedda_foil Nov 2015 #26
Thank you Ned_Devine Nov 2015 #29
Convince yourself. The more 840high Nov 2015 #30
... JackInGreen Nov 2015 #39
A real pleasure to put you on ignore litlbilly Nov 2015 #49
Go right ahead and champion humbled_opinion Nov 2015 #50
K&R ismnotwasm Nov 2015 #52
No one has voted yet paul ofnoclique Nov 2015 #58
Not even close to over angrychair Nov 2015 #60
"Clinton has struck a chord with the electorate by going after the NRA, an area in which she Cha Nov 2015 #71
here's Wayne LaPierre singing Hillary's praises azurnoir Nov 2015 #73
Well he sure is somebody we should all listen to isn't he? upaloopa Nov 2015 #79
yes but why is he praising Hillarry while Bernie gets an F from his organization? azurnoir Nov 2015 #80
He is not praising Hillary upaloopa Nov 2015 #81
Bingo. At least you read what he posted. Codeine Nov 2015 #85
Did you seriously not fucking read what you posted? Codeine Nov 2015 #84
The media really wanted a horse race. DCBob Nov 2015 #75
I think this should read "Hillary is losing" INdemo Nov 2015 #77
Wrong. moobu2 Nov 2015 #83
They can read the polls too workinclasszero Nov 2015 #86
k&r DesertRat Nov 2015 #88

Fearless

(18,421 posts)
1. No one is "freaking out" and she will lose.
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 12:41 AM
Nov 2015

She also doesn't differ from Bernie on the NRA. But they'll print any lies they want.

SusanCalvin

(6,592 posts)
4. I'm not offering an opinion of who will win or lose,
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 12:50 AM
Nov 2015

because I'm sick of that and the rah rah from other posts I've seen lately.

But I don't think anyone is "freaking out."

whatchamacallit

(15,558 posts)
2. Wonder how many OPs about us freaking out
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 12:44 AM
Nov 2015

it takes before the posters start looking like the ones who are losing it?

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
13. Well, that particular poster has posted at least 5 Bernie hit pieces in this forum
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 01:09 AM
Nov 2015

so it doesn't take much to draw some conclusions from that.

On edit: Make that at least 6 hit pieces.

Fearless

(18,421 posts)
9. You do realize that there is a long history of the "fainting" "pearl-clutching" and "vapors" comment
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 01:00 AM
Nov 2015

On DU... and they're all extremely HOMOPHOBIC?

Fearless

(18,421 posts)
28. The statement was used to reinforce gender stereotypes
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 01:59 AM
Nov 2015

And label gay men as being less than straight men. In the same way it's very anti woman in general. The idea that feminine equals weak is absurd in itself.

riversedge

(70,329 posts)
21. It is he silly season but what you just said is wrong and stupid!
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 01:29 AM
Nov 2015



.....Fearless
9. You do realize that there is a long history of the "fainting" "pearl-clutching" and "vapors" comment

View profile
On DU... and they're all extremely HOMOPHOBIC?

Fearless

(18,421 posts)
40. I don't call out DUers. I disagree with the use of the phrase
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 02:52 AM
Nov 2015

As do most LGBTers on DU from that era. I don't speak for or police others.

Starry Messenger

(32,342 posts)
43. Oh, so just selective policing.
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 02:54 AM
Nov 2015

Well, two LGBT people who are not from "the era" might want to be clued in on the background, so they know what you are talking about.

Fearless

(18,421 posts)
44. No my dear.
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 02:56 AM
Nov 2015

But you seem to want to. Why? Why do you want to tell others so fervently something you evidently don't believe?

Starry Messenger

(32,342 posts)
46. The people you are excoriating upthread signed up in 2012 and after, "dear"
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 02:59 AM
Nov 2015

If you are going to apply some standard of gatekeeping phrasing as homophobic based on past usage on DU, you might want to exhibit just the tiniest bit of integrity. Just a suggestion.

Fearless

(18,421 posts)
54. An ad homenium response.
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 03:13 AM
Nov 2015

If someone responds to me using homophobic slurs, I will call them on it. If you want to police the site by all means. I don't have the time.

I don't lose the right to respond to errant posts because I haven't addressed every other instance of it ad infinitum.

Starry Messenger

(32,342 posts)
63. What is homenium? A new chemical element?
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 03:32 AM
Nov 2015

"I do give quite a shit about bigotry. Yet I also understand that blind rage is not the solution. We cannot fight bigotry by shunning those who spew it. We must invite them into our lives so that they can see that we are not the negative stereotypes that they associate with us. They're not going to go away if we ignore them. Their defiance grows stronger if we hate them back or if we shun them for their person and not for their actions, because that hate is their desired result. If we love them, truly love them, then we try to change their minds, one family member at a time, one coworker at a time, one parishioner at a time, etc. We must realize that the single most disarming weapon we have is love and that hate only breeds more hate."

Someone said that once, when a disgusting bigot was given a national platform. I wonder where that person went?

Fearless

(18,421 posts)
64. Grammar police in lieu of content
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 03:36 AM
Nov 2015

Do you seriously expect me to chase down every example of homophobia and/or misogyny posted on DU?

But have it your way... Me having spoken about one instance and you having spoken about neither referenced, who is doing the better job?

Starry Messenger

(32,342 posts)
65. Hmm, I guess expecting consistency from camp flip-flop was just too much.
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 03:39 AM
Nov 2015

Search will produce such interesting results.

SusanCalvin

(6,592 posts)
8. If Bernie is the nominee,
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 12:59 AM
Nov 2015

I will freak out and do my happy dance!

I say "if," not "when" because I think predictions and nya nya are becoming quite tiresome.

Personally, I will just work and advocate for my candidate. YMMV.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
32. I will turn my eyes to the sky...to see those pigs fly!
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 02:38 AM
Nov 2015


He's done a great job of focusing a few of his signature issues--but he is not Presidential timber. He just isn't. YMMV and that's dandy, but I think the voters are coming to that conclusion.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
36. You can bookmark this thread, and come back and rub my nose in it if you'd
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 02:47 AM
Nov 2015

like--I won't get upset at all, promise!

MADem

(135,425 posts)
47. I've no need--I'm saying YOU can do that, if you'd like.
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 03:00 AM
Nov 2015

I am prepared to support whoever gets the nomination. I've always said this, and I mean it.

That said, I do think it will be Clinton; she's just a FAR better candidate in terms of experience, knowledge, sheer talent, gravitas on the world stage, and flat-out ability. She's also got a spouse who is way more prepared for that First Spouse role than any other in history--can't wait to see HIS Holiday WH tour! And I'm quite sure all those foreign spouses will love shlepping him around to orphanages and schools while HRC talks to world leaders on state visits! They'll probably be the most invited pair to go on state visits in eons...!

It's a choice between a guy who has a narrow focus on specific issues that are of interest to him, and someone who has a more panoramic and global view of the issues that face us as a nation.

YMMV but that's my POV.

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
6. Dude! I am totally freaking out about people freaking out and here I am freaking out!
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 12:54 AM
Nov 2015

And here is where I am freaking out about one thing and went totally on another unrelated tangent about another thing… but but but i'm not freaking out AT ALL!!!@@@@@!!!!

A most remarkably STUPID paragraph. I suspect amphetamines…

Clinton has struck a chord with the electorate by going after the NRA, an area in which she clearly differs with Sanders. Fighting the NRA isn't new for Clinton, who fought them for years while Sanders voted against the Brady bill and against allowing people to sue gun manufacturers. That is fair campaigning just as it is fair for Sanders to point out the differences in their positions on the minimum wage, he being for a federal $15 minimum wage and Clinton being for a $12 one allowing states and localities to decide if they want to go higher depending on their individual economies. Or pointing out the differences in their positions on how to deal with the big banks and allowing voters to decide which they like best.





redstateblues

(10,565 posts)
10. The Sanders folks aren't freaking out
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 01:03 AM
Nov 2015

They are just gradually realizing Bernie has hit his ceiling after what was a promising start. Dreams die hard.

MrWendel

(1,881 posts)
74. It can't be that irrelevant if he was brought up in the first place...
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 06:42 AM
Nov 2015

Maybe your thoughts were on Bernie. I would argue about the Fictional part, but the rest are on point.

ksabin9325

(1 post)
45. Free stuff??
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 02:57 AM
Nov 2015

It not free when Corporations have to finally pay their fair share or when Wall Street have to pay or when the 1% have to pair their fair share. At least he has the Balls to do what is right for the middle class. Hillary will not do anything to Wall Street and she was for TPP lets see how that works out for you and future generations. She is a Liar and has always been one

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
78. Now that reads like freaking out to me.
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 08:43 AM
Nov 2015

Who do you think you are convincing with that? All you are doing is getting raw raw cheers from the other Bernie Folks.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
33. His temperament is showing....
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 02:40 AM
Nov 2015

....and it's just as acerbic as has been touted in anecdotes and articles past.

riversedge

(70,329 posts)
20. "Sanders has done what he promised he wouldn't, attacking Clinton's character..."
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 01:27 AM
Nov 2015





http://www.huffingtonpost.com/peter-d-rosenstein/hillary-is-winning-the-me_b_8484506.html

....As of this week it is clear both the media and Bernie Sanders are realizing Clinton is leading and leading big. Sanders has done what he promised he wouldn't, attacking Clinton's character rather than sticking to the issues. He is becoming what he claimed he isn't -- just another politician.......



http://www.wsj.com/articles/bernie-sanders-takes-gloves-off-against-hillary-clinton-in-interview-1446684586



Bernie Sanders Takes Gloves Off Against Hillary Clinton in Interview
Democratic presidential candidate draws sharper distinctions with front-runner, casting her policy reversals as a character issue

By Peter Nicholas
Nov. 4, 2015 7:49 p.m. ET

Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders is drawing sharper distinctions with front-runner Hillary Clinton, casting her policy reversals over the years as a character issue that voters should take into account when they evaluate the Democratic field.

Sen. Sanders of Vermont, in an interview with The Wall Street Journal on Wednesday,...

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
22. aren't you ashamed of yourself...
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 01:36 AM
Nov 2015

....for pushing this rush to anoint one candidate before most Democrats have had a chance to really understand the issues?

This Hillary rush is the same modus operandi that the TPP is. HURRY and make her seem inevitable!! Just like the Bushies did with W. in 2000. Same kind of tactics to shape the conversation.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
35. Rush to anoint? Canadian and UK elections are over in the blink of an eye.
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 02:46 AM
Nov 2015

How long ago did both candidates declare their candidacy?

Aside from Clinton's vastly superior foreign policy experience, they both know their way around the Hill, Sanders has more House experience, but Clinton has had a bird's eye view of the Presidency and has served in her FLOTUS capacity as both an envoy and a special projects wrangler.

People who need more time to make up their mind are the people who don't care anyway. More time isn't going to help them decide.

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
41. ridiculous
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 02:53 AM
Nov 2015

The scam has been exposed, and confirmed by your pushing, above.

It's the same game the Bushies pulled on America. Rush the aura of inevitability. Shove people into a hurried choice, and then shut down any doubters by any means possible.

The people aren't that easily corralled this time around. You'll see.

And your low opinion of Democratic voters above is noted.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
51. Just because you use words like "ridiculous" and
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 03:11 AM
Nov 2015

"scam" doesn't make this either a scam or ridiculous.

And it's not having a "low opinion" of anyone to say that people who haven't been paying attention at this stage of the game really don't give that much of a shit. They'll vote the way they've always voted, they may vote their perceived pocketbooks, or they may vote for the one they want to drink beer with.

Perhaps ten percent of voters REALLY care. Twenty percent are interested. If you get past an active, excited, determined engagement of 40 percent, that's a miracle.

So you go on ahead and make a "note" of my realistic--not 'low'-- opinion of voters (and not just DEMOCRATIC ones either). It's shared by most people who study politics for a living.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
56. "So we out with the process or conversation then eh?"
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 03:17 AM
Nov 2015

I am sorry--I just don't understand what you are saying.

hedda_foil

(16,375 posts)
26. Rosenstein, the author, is a member of Hillary's finance committee. He's a DC lobbyist and flack.
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 01:57 AM
Nov 2015

Finance committee member Hillary for America. Here's his website.
http://prosenstein.com/

JackInGreen

(2,975 posts)
39. ...
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 02:52 AM
Nov 2015

"Blah blah blah quit now 5+ months before the primary and make you knock kneed haters" whatever get back to us with issues.

humbled_opinion

(4,423 posts)
50. Go right ahead and champion
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 03:11 AM
Nov 2015

a flawed politician candidate the rightwingers won't be as nice as Bernie has been to her that is for sure...

angrychair

(8,736 posts)
60. Not even close to over
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 03:22 AM
Nov 2015

During the first week of November in 2007, HRC was up an average of 22 points on then SBO (USA Today/Gallup had her up 28)
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/us/democratic_presidential_nomination-191.html

HRC was crushing SBO in October of 2007:
"...and in October the same poll showed her commanding majority Democratic support, with 51% compared to Obama's 21% and Edwards' 15%."
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary_Clinton_presidential_primary_campaign,_2008

Then SBO didn't start polling north of 30 points, as a constant average, until January of 2008.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/us/democratic_presidential_nomination-191.html

All major labor unions had endorsed HRC before December of 2007
http://www.gwu.edu/~action/2008/labor/laborendorse08.html

She had hundreds of endorsements from Congress and other Democratic Party elite and SuperDelegates
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Hillary_Clinton_presidential_campaign_endorsements,_2008

And there was this observation from Gallup (bolded emphasis mine):

"The Democratic Race: Conditions Auspicious for Sen. Clinton to Win
Gallup’s 2007 national presidential polling strongly points to Clinton winning the 2008 Democratic nomination. Barring something unusual or otherwise unexpected, she is well positioned for the 2008 Democratic primaries. Obama has not been an insignificant rival: he came within single digits of tying Clinton for the lead at two points this spring. But he has recently lost ground and is now in the weakest position relative to Clinton that he has been in all year.

No other announced or potential Democratic candidate has come close to threatening Clinton’s front-runner status since the campaign began, including former Vice President Al Gore and former North Carolina Sen. John Edwards."
http://www.gallup.com/poll/102277/gallup-election-review-october-2007.aspx

Guess what, she didn't win.
Fast forward to 2015, in Brenie's campaign, 73%, more than any canidiate, D or R, comes from contributions of less than $200. More so, Bernie has a larger individual donor pool he can still pull from, both for primary and general, than any other canidiate, R or D.
Let's cut the "quite now for party unity/can't win" talk and let him run his campaign and let the American people decide.

Cha

(297,774 posts)
71. "Clinton has struck a chord with the electorate by going after the NRA, an area in which she
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 04:15 AM
Nov 2015
clearly differs with Sanders. Fighting the NRA isn't new for Clinton, who fought them for years while Sanders voted against the Brady bill and against allowing people to sue gun manufacturers."

yeah, but he's gonna kick her butt by getting the gop to keep going after the faux emails just like the faux Benghazi scandals.. and wasting taxpayers $$$$$. #berniesoscary

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
73. here's Wayne LaPierre singing Hillary's praises
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 05:24 AM
Nov 2015

Wayne LaPierre, the executive vice president of the National Rifle Association, focused more of his Friday speech at his group’s annual convention on attacks against likely presidential candidate Hillary Clinton instead of gun rights.

“I vow on this day the NRA will stand shoulder to shoulder with you and good, honest decent Americans and we will stand and fight with everything we’ve got and in 2016, by God, we will elect the next great president of the United States of America and it will not be Hillary Rodham Clinton,” he said.

“One day America will elect a woman … not because of her gender but because of her character and integrity and moral fitness to hold the highest office in land,” he added. “That is how a candidate should be judged … and how a president should be elected.”

http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/wayne-lapierre-targets-hillary-clinton-during-nra-convention-speech

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
79. Well he sure is somebody we should all listen to isn't he?
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 08:47 AM
Nov 2015

He's the leader of the people who grab on tight to their guns every time there is a mass shooting for fear somebody might care enough about the killings to do something.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
80. yes but why is he praising Hillarry while Bernie gets an F from his organization?
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 08:49 AM
Nov 2015

things that make you say hmmmm or should

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
81. He is not praising Hillary
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 09:16 AM
Nov 2015

" by God, we will elect the next great president of the United States of America and it will not be Hillary Rodham Clinton,” he said.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
84. Did you seriously not fucking read what you posted?
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 07:56 PM
Nov 2015

Because that's an attack, not praise.

Fail.

INdemo

(6,994 posts)
77. I think this should read "Hillary is losing"
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 08:20 AM
Nov 2015

If Hillary was winning and this primary was over and the next few months was just a formality why would the Clinton's
want an article like this published?

Because their internal polling is probably making them nervous and Hillary is losing Iowa and NH

Just remember the Clinton campaign has millions to use to spread this BS






Papantonio: Bernie Sanders Scares The Hell Out Of Corporate Democrats

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1017306209


moobu2

(4,822 posts)
83. Wrong.
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 06:41 PM
Nov 2015

It helps Hillary and the Democratic party for her to have an adversary no matter how weak. In the end everybody knows Bernie doesn't have a chance in hell in the Primary. That's why Bernie is breaking his promise not to attack Hillary (he's desperate).

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
86. They can read the polls too
Fri Nov 6, 2015, 08:01 PM
Nov 2015

Even if they pretend to not believe them.

Bernies goin down hard so they are in panic mode for sure.

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