2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forum10-DAYS! How long it takes Hillary to parrot Sanders, again. Now on marijuana
Hillary Clinton Calls for Easing Federal Restrictions on Marijuanaby ALEX SEITZ-WALD * NOV 7 2015, 4:58 PM ET * NBC
ORANGEBURG, S.C. Hillary Clinton called for lowering the federal restrictions on marijuana research at a town hall meeting Saturday on the campus of Claflin University, a historically black university.
The Democratic presidential front-runner called for reclassifying the drug from Schedule 1, the most restrictive class that includes heroin, to Schedule 2.
"I do support the use of medical marijuana," she said. "And I think even there we need to do a lot more research so that we know exactly how we're going to help people for whom medical marijuana provides relief."
"I want to move from Schedule 1 to Schedule 2 so researchers can research what's the best way to use it, dosage, how does it work with other medications," she added.
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/hillary-clinton-calls-easing-federal-restrictions-marijuana-n459286
Here's Bernie's announcement on 10/28, 10-days ago, calling for legalization of weed:
http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/bernie-sanders-end-marijuana-prohibition
That is EXACTLY how many days it took Hillary to suddenly "evolve" on Exxon .. unbelievable.
Bernie Calls for Fed. Probe on Exxon, 10-DAYS later, Hillary Parrots Bernie & Makes a Big Splash????
http://www.democraticunderground.com/128068140
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)msongs
(67,405 posts)99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)artislife
(9,497 posts)winter is coming
(11,785 posts)For the amount of money her campaign is shelling out, you'd think they could get better turnaround time on their focus groups...
99Forever
(14,524 posts)Ya just can't buy good help these days...
What's a .01%er ta do?
Schema Thing
(10,283 posts)Hillary:
"Those Republicans who try to limit voting are COWARDS. Cowards, I tells ya!".
CoffeeCat
(24,411 posts)...and spent countless hours campaigning and touting her opinions, beliefs, policies and ideas for the future.
Not once, during the tens of thousands of hours campaigning--Did I ever hear her mention any of the issues that she now seems to care about so deeply.
She's worse than a flip flopper. She's a parrot.
And the worst part...she's only saying these things to win the nomination. These are not her closely held beliefs or policies. She just wants to win, because it's "her time."
Pathetic.
Truprogressive85
(900 posts)99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)lob1
(3,820 posts)just from habit Hillary would quit next week.
Seriously, that made me
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)left entirely to the states
removing it from Federal regulations altogether.
Hillary wants to downgrade it to schedule 2, use of which can still get one arrested and incarcerated. Especially if one is black or brown.
Bernie's stance has evolved from his conversations with the black lives matter activists from Campaign Zero.
Hillary's stance has evolved from her conversations with pharmaceutical companies.
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)and they are definitely worth noting. Thanks for pointing them out.
Hillary = Bernie-lite, maybe (if she doesn't change her mind again)
Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)Truprogressive85
(900 posts)If I'm Sanders camp I would come out in favor for :
1. Guaranteed Income - follow up on Dr. King economic plan to help bring poverty down.
see how fast HRC copy's that lol
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)Nixon came close, believe it or not.
That coupled with universal health care and tuition free college and much of the poverty pimp industry would come crashing down.
Truprogressive85
(900 posts)I agree that if we have guaranteed income + universal care + tuition free college = America we need to live in
If we have billions upon billions to fight war than we can support our citizens
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)HerbChestnut
(3,649 posts)joshcryer
(62,270 posts)Clinton has always said "wait and see" and "do more research." This squares fully with that.
And I've been predicting marijuana for well over two years, there are enough states that will send delegates to the convention it is almost sure to be in the platform.
What Clinton is doing is not controversial, as usual. Not that there's anything wrong with following the polls.
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)Hillary = Bernie-lite, maybe (if she doesn't change her mind yet again).
Her 10-day gestation period, for parroting something "like" Sanders latest position
announcement, just kind of blew my mind, twice-over .
joshcryer
(62,270 posts)When she was asked in person by someone who was using mmj to treat their kids illness.
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)http://www.democraticunderground.com/110725735
Can't have it both ways.
thereismore
(13,326 posts)joshcryer
(62,270 posts)But that's been a democrat position for almost two decades.
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)nt
thereismore
(13,326 posts)JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)And go check her response at first Dem debate.
Fumesucker
(45,851 posts)Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)I wonder if she wants offenders to be charged like powder, or like rock, though? HMMMMM. I wonder what Correctional Corporations of America would prefer...
procon
(15,805 posts)it would be really foolhardy for any politician to brush aside the people's demands and ignore key issues just because they weren't the first to mention it. We did we become so petty?
People have asked for marriage equality and more efforts to reduce global warming, and the Dem candidates responded accordingly. The majority of people demand stronger gun controls, a higher minimum wage, prison reform, fair immigration, and yes, decriminalization of marijuana, and our Democrats have stepped forward with those policies. And good on them all!
None of these important public issues belong exclusively any one candidate. Asserting that the politician who first speaks on any given subject owns the proprietary rights that issue in perteputary is illogical and demeaning to the candidates and voters.
Just stop this petulant and juvenile wailing about "he said it first". It doesn't matter. What's important is that we have really good Democratic candidates who aren't afraid to take on these critical problems and offer the public their plans to resolve the complex issues.
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)of this pattern of attempting to erase any differences between your candidate and Sander;
but this pattern is both striking & unmistakable, and I'm not the only one to notice it, by far.
I see you have nothing to contribute to the discussion except for name-calling and insisting
that "it doesn't matter". Fine.
Don't get me wrong. I am glad Hill's "seeing the light" on so many issue positions that Bernie is
well-known for having, or just came out with, whichever applies.
procon
(15,805 posts)I like Sanders.
I like Clinton.
I like O'malley.
Each for different reasons, and I see each with different strengths and weaknesses What I object to, is not the candidates, but their fans who are busily tarring them with unrealistic expectations, branding them as unrealistic caricatures, and chaining them down with the weight of their own petty assertions. You're right, I'm not going to "contribute" much of anything to a pep rally that tells me no one but Sanders has the right to support marijuana legalization. If being "first" is what really matters to you, "fine". I just don't see Sanders as being that shallow or birdbrained. So allow that my opinion is markedly different than yours if I see him as more focused on the pithy issues we face.
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)If you don't agree that Hillary's timing, on Exxon and Weed in particular, are
part of a deliberate strategy to attempt to erase any difference between her
and Sanders on issues that matter to Progressives, then fine. We disagree.
No problemo.
procon
(15,805 posts)got quite upset over the same such imaginary slights, although they were carrying about their dresses and not taking such a remarkably pugilistic stance over something as inconsequential as who was first to announce a given position. Be that as it may, there are clearly sufficient differences between the candidates to set them distinctly apart, and it confounds me why anyone would find it strange that Democrats share somewhat similar views.
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)perhaps this is where we agree to disagree.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)guess that is not a bad record, now who is parroting who?
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)I have no idea what you're talking about. Care to elaborate at least a little? Ok I'll
take a guess at it.
Perhaps you mean Hillary's had this same position she announced today, for the past year?
If so, then why is she repeating herself, 10-days after Sanders' announcement, with no
improvement or evolution?
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)Bernie's saying "to remove the federal prohibition on marijuana, as in decriminalize.
Hillary only wants to make it less criminal, from schedule 1 to schedule 2.
It's Hill's uncanny timing that floors me. At least she's "consistent" about one thing,
running as Wall St-approved Bernie-lite, maybe, if she doesn't change her mind again.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)"ORANGEBURG, S.C. Hillary Clinton called for lowering the federal
restrictions on marijuana research at a town hall meeting Saturday on the
campus of Claflin University, a historically black university.
The Democratic presidential front-runner called for reclassifying the drug from
Schedule 1, the most restrictive class that includes heroin, to Schedule 2."
~Hillary Clinton, NOV 7 2015, 4:58 PM ET
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)are important? Has he ever said the same statement over and over? I did not post this as news, she also gave information about refinancing student loans, candidates say the same issue time after time. Is there a problem with this happening?
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Krytan11c
(271 posts)and I applaud you for it
passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)I can't recall the term, but maybe that is what Hillary is doing. She is letting Bernie test all the ideas, and if they get a good response, she picks them up and runs with them (not necessarily for actual use later). If they don't she goes in another direction.
Leadership, I tell you.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)Uploaded on Feb 21, 2012
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Well done!
passiveporcupine
(8,175 posts)I don't think they know Bernie at all. And I don't think some of them want to.
beam me up scottie
(57,349 posts)Most just the parrot talking points they read at their website.
They have no idea why Bernie was a DU darling until he challenged Hillary.
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)tinkerbelle
(38 posts)to figure out how to lock up the market. Gotta keep the hippies from making a buck.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)another way to encourage profiteering from a natural product while keeping her private prison owning friends happy.
this does NOTHING for the people
Hepburn
(21,054 posts)people will not remember it was Bernie's.
Catherina
(35,568 posts)bobbobbins01
(1,681 posts)The day after the forum this comes out. Bernie pretty unanimously came out as the winner of the forum so she releases this to bury that news. Politically I guess its a good strategy. I just wish if she was going to steal Bernie's platform, she'd go all in and not go halfway all the time.