Bernie Sanders' momentum stalls in an unlikely place: union halls

[riversedge]

http://www.latimes.com/nation/politics/la-na-bernie-sanders-labor-20151106-story.html



Bernie Sanders' momentum stalls in an unlikely place: union halls
Sen. Bernie Sanders finds unions slipping from his graspC

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Sanders, the Vermont senator, doesn’t hedge with labor. Just about anything on the broader labor agenda, he champions. He recently unveiled legislation that read like a union wish list in front of a spirited throng of laborers shouting approval, Almada among them.

Sanders bristled when a reporter asked whether the bill would help him win endorsements from national unions – which it hasn’t. “It’s not a question of winning,” he snapped. “This is legislation I have supported, quite honestly, since literally the first year I was in Congress.” That was a quarter-century ago.


Despite Sanders’ deep support for labor, the national nurses’ organization that Almada sought to join is the only major union to endorse Sanders in the race for the Democratic nomination for president. It is dwarfed by much larger labor groups that are lining up with his arguably less committed, less reliable rival, Hillary Rodham Clinton.


National unions representing more than half of America’s 14.6 million unionized workers are already in Clinton’s corner, and many of the rest are heading in that direction. .............................


Even so, the next major union poised to make an endorsement — the Service Employees International Union, which represents 2 million workers — is expected to throw its support behind Clinton. Union officials say their internal polling shows 75% of their members favor her.......................

“It’s a classic tension between the head and the heart,” said Lance Compa, who teaches labor law at the Cornell University School of Labor and Industrial Relations. Union leaders are feeling particularly risk-averse this election, with a hostile Congress and a Supreme Court that has labor in its crosshairs. The court will be hearing a case against the California Teachers Assn. that poses an existential threat to public employee unions nationwide, with justices weighing whether to ban them from requiring the employees they represent to pay dues. Labor leaders are horror-struck by the prospect of a Republican president filling the next Supreme Court vacancy.

“Union leaders are negotiators by nature,” Compa said. “They understand you can’t get everything they want. You get the best deal in the end. That is what they are looking at now” as they weigh whom to endorse.............

[PowerToThePeople]

1. Not in my union hall

[Le Taz Hot]

20. Yeah, our California Nurses' Association

here in the Central Valley are all in for Bernie, hosting several events and trainings.

[cantbeserious]

2. What One Is Really Saying Is That The Union Leadership Is In Clinton's Pocket - Not The Members

Quid Pro Quo anyone?

[MADem]

3. That's not what "one" is saying at all--the unions are saying that their internal polling of their

membership is favoring Clinton overwhemingly.

Union officials say their internal polling shows 75% of their members favor her. Sanders supporters may be louder, and may be concentrated in early-voting states getting a lot of attention, SEIU officials say, but Clinton is the candidate most of the union finds appealing.

She has a track record of accomplishment, she knows how to negotiate the best possible deal, she doesn't get wrapped around pointless axles, and she's not afraid.

That's probably why.

[Cha]

11. Pesky details that don't interest a lot of BS fans. I won't say all bc I've actually seen some who

do care about the facts.

Thanks MADem

[riversedge]

4. I think this paragraph is the important part of the article....

Hillary knows how to negotiate--has had lots of experience around the world. Not saying Sanders does not know how but seems he does want it all (forgets we have Republicans and tea-baggers who control Congress-)--Sanders wants a Revolution-wants his supporters to rise up. How--millions of marches on DC??


.....“It’s a classic tension between the head and the heart,” said Lance Compa, who teaches labor law at the Cornell University School of Labor and Industrial Relations. Union leaders are feeling particularly risk-averse this election, with a hostile Congress and a Supreme Court that has labor in its crosshairs. The court will be hearing a case against the California Teachers Assn. that poses an existential threat to public employee unions nationwide, with justices weighing whether to ban them from requiring the employees they represent to pay dues. Labor leaders are horror-struck by the prospect of a Republican president filling the next Supreme Court vacancy.

“Union leaders are negotiators by nature,” Compa said. “They understand you can’t get everything they want. You get the best deal in the end. That is what they are looking at now” as they weigh whom to endorse.............

[cantbeserious]

6. HRC Is A Front For The Establishment - Negotiation Is For Those That Wish To Maintain The Status Quo

eom

[Dr Hobbitstein]

9. It's clear now...

You want a dictator, not a negotiator. Makes sense...

[cantbeserious]

21. One Wants A Leader - Not A Follower - HRC Is A Follower - As Proven By Her Ever-Changing Positions

eom

[Dr Hobbitstein]

23. You said you don't want a negotiator...

The only way shit gets done is to negotiate.

Do you only type in short soundbites full of buzz words? And really, the capitalization of every word is unnecessary.

[cantbeserious]

27. HRC Is Not A Negotiator - Witness the TPP - The Worst Trade Deal To Be In The History Of Mankind

Some "Gold Standard"!

[Dr Hobbitstein]

28. Wait, you referred to her as a negotiator

not but 3 posts back? Now she's not?

[cantbeserious]

30. One Never Claimed Such - In Fact Claimed The Opposite - Hence The Disaster Called The TPP

eom

[Dr Hobbitstein]

31. But one did.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=782695

And why is the TPP all her fault? She hasn't been SoS for quite some time, and has NOT been a part of the talks since she was.

A better question is why am I arguing with you? Nothing you post seems to make sense, and you continue to wage war on the written English language.

[NCTraveler]

39. Took a total of fourteen minutes for them to realize they said something positive about Hillary.

PULL BACK!!!!! PULL BACK!!!! I DIDN'T MEAN WHAT I SAID!!!!

[riversedge]

36. Governing is all about negoitations .

[Cha]

13. Yes! this why.. “Union leaders are negotiators by nature,” Compa said. “They understand you can’t

get everything they want. You get the best deal in the end. That is what they are looking at now” as they weigh whom to endorse."

[Starry Messenger]

26. It is key.

[Cha]

8. Yeah, BS fans say that.. bc it makes them feel better.

[cantbeserious]

12. Seems To Be The Truth This Election Cycle - The Leadership Is Out Of Step With The Membership

Kind of like HRC herself - Out of Step With The People.

[Cha]

14. Union officials say their internal polling shows 75% of their members favor her. Sanders supporters

may be louder, and may be concentrated in early-voting states getting a lot of attention, SEIU officials say, but Clinton is the candidate most of the union finds appealing."

[cantbeserious]

16. And One Believes Leadership That Have A Vested Interest To Protect Their Position - Even In Unions

eom

[Cha]

17. Reality.. deal with it.

[cantbeserious]

19. Seems One Is Out Of Step with Reality - Not This One Though - Fully Engaged To Defeat HRC

eom

[Cha]

22. Or not.

[JaneyVee]

18. This union member is.

[Starry Messenger]

5. It would be right-to-work for teachers.

"The court will be hearing a case against the California Teachers Assn. that poses an existential threat to public employee unions nationwide, with justices weighing whether to ban them from requiring the employees they represent to pay dues. Labor leaders are horror-struck by the prospect of a Republican president filling the next Supreme Court vacancy."

[cantbeserious]

7. And The Best Candidate To Fill That Next Open SCOTUS Seat - Bernie Sanders

eom

[Thinkingabout]

10. Union members want someone in office which can make progress, someone who works well with others.

Hillary has worked well with unions and will continue. She knows issues which are important to union members, count me in as a union member voting for Hillary Clinton.

[Sheepshank]

15. It is clear that unions want someone who is effective

..as well as someone in their camp. As I'd mentioned several times since Bernie announced...I don't doubt his passion, I doubt his ability to get anything accomplished.

[Cha]

25. Yes! Union members don't have time for someone who can't deliver.. they need someone as

President who knows how to negotiate like they do.

[whathehell]

29. You mean like Obama "delivered" for them?

[Cha]

33. Love President Obama and Hillary!

[whathehell]

38. Yes, despite their non-delivery on issues you pretend to care about.

It's hilarious.

[vorgan24]

24. Stand with Unions...

...Stand with Hillary.

For all those people who love to make talk about how much they 'support' Unions, supporting the person that the Unions have decided to be the best candidate for advancing workers rights should be easy.

Unions stand with Democrats. Democrats stand with Unions. It's not a hard concept to understand.

[LiberalArkie]

32. It is dwarfed by much larger labor groups that are lining up with his arguably less committed, less

reliable rival, Hillary Rodham Clinton.

[HassleCat]

34. Unions are cautious

Most of them follow the Third Way blueprint. There is a lot of "cross pollination" between unions leadership and Democratic Party activity. Just as the Democratic strategy of the last 30 years resulted in us becoming the minority party, union strategy has led to declining membership. Maybe that's just a coincidence.

[McCamy Taylor]

35. Because unions vote with their pocket books, not their hearts.

[UglyGreed]

37. But when you post

these types of articles you are just giving the GOP ammo to go against Bernie when he wins the nomination...... Can't you just posts all the good things Hillary represents?

[Cha]

40. Major Labor Union Just Endorsed Hillary Clinton Over Bernie Sanders

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/machinists-union-endorses-hillary-clinton_55ce33d5e4b07addcb42e9a9

Machinists Union Endorses Hillary Clinton for President

http://www.goiam.org/index.php/news/press-releases/14828-machinists-union-endorses-hillary-clinton-for-president

International Longshoremen's Association latest labor union to endorse Hillary Clinton

http://www.startribune.com/longshoremen-latest-labor-group-endorsing-clinton-candidacy/339120121/

International Union of Painters and Allied Trades Endorses Hillary Clinton for President

http://www.iupat.org/wp/hrcendorse/

Teachers Union Backs Clinton for President

The National Education Association follows the American Federation of Teachers in endorsing the Democratic front-runner.

http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2015/10/03/powerful-nea-teachers-union-endorses-hillary-clinton-for-president



Hillary Clinton Gets Backing of Major Union of Government Workers

http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2015/10/23/hillary-clinton-gets-backing-of-major-union-of-government-workers/