This sounds like what is being said about Hillary Clinton here...

[Historic NY]

people spouting talking points bought and paid for right here ......

easily beatable candidate who's also a nearly-unbeatable juggernaut: “Hillary Clinton is gift-wrapping this election to us,” Jindal said. “Hillary Clinton is running so far to the left … to catch up to her socialist opponent, Bernie Sanders, it's hard to even see her anymore,” Christie said. And she's afraid of the looming fight, he added: “Hillary Clinton doesn't want one minute on that stage with me next September when I'm debating her, and prosecuting her for her vision for America." And yet despite cluelessly adopting positions that would turn off most of the electorate, she is a powerful electoral force. “I had Bill and Hillary in my state—James Carville managed the race against me—a state with a million more Democrats than Republicans,” said former Senator Rick Santorum of Pennslyvania. (Yet he had triumphed! Until 2006, when he lost.) To beat her, Ohio Governor John Kasich said, Republicans need “a CEO mentality,” and “our ideas have to add up. They have to be solid.” Bush chimed in with a similar warning when Trump's idea of deporting millions of immigrants arose: “They're doing high-fives in the Clinton campaign right now when they hear this." Or maybe she's laughing because of Bush's immigration plan (Cruz: "The Democrats are laughing—because if Republicans join Democrats as the party of amnesty, we will lose&quot . Whichever one she finds hilarious, the threat of a Clinton victory is real, and dangerous: “We cannot lose this election,” Trump said.

A woman with no ideas except for bad ones: Clinton has no ideas (Rubio: "The political left has no ideas about the future”). Except for one: single-payer health care (Christie: “She will completely nationalize the federal health care system”).

A criminal-ish politician: Christie, in particular, painted Clinton with a tint of criminality. Christie said being governor of a blue state made him better equipped to win nationally, but he seemed to think his time as a U.S. attorney was more appealing; four times, he said some version of the idea that he would be best at "prosecuting" her.

A foreign-policy failure who agrees with Republicans on foreign policy: Clinton is trembling and weak on foreign policy. (Bush: “This president, and Hillary Clinton both, do not believe the United States has a leadership role to play." Rubio: “Around the world, every day brings news of a new humiliation for America—many the … direct consequence of decisions made when Hillary Clinton was the secretary of state." Christie: "Remember why we're in the position we're in with China, because of an absolutely weak and feckless foreign policy that was engineered by Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama.&quot At the same time, she agrees with many Republicans about what to do with the gravest international crisis, in Syria (Paul: “The idea of a no-fly zone, realize that this is also something that Hillary Clinton agrees with several on our side with…”).

http://www.newrepublic.com/article/123430/hillary-clinton-living-inside-gop-brain?utm_content=buffer3215c&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer

[Scootaloo]

1. Yeah? Where's it being said on DU?

[Historic NY]

2. Think about it your smart enough...

[frylock]

3. I'm not, so go ahead and provide some examples.

[cherokeeprogressive]

15. Smart is something I've never been accused of. Clue me in.

[Scootaloo]

16. No, no, you're making a claim against DU'ers. Let's see it backed up

[Hortensis]

45. It IS backed up right here. By many dozens of posts

incessantly repeating the same arguments the GOP uses. You're obviously not illiterate. This documentation is available to you right here on the main screen. Just start reading.

BTW, since I can't get into the minds of those who do this, I won't offer documentation, but of course I BELIEVE that people looking for anti-Hillary stuff to post find most of it on right wing websites. Those who don't just parrot whatever's already brought in here by others, of course.

Although, I suppose I could search on various right-wing-style phrases and find where they originated... Naw, too much trouble when we all actually know what's going on.

[Scootaloo]

46. So the claim is bullshit. Gotcha

[Betty Karlson]

44. Resonse # 7 nailed it.

All the rest is whining from people who cannot abide criticism.

[Duckhunter935]

4. Newrepublic?

Interesting source you have

[DemocratSinceBirth]

5. Yet it is o k when your associates...

Yet it is o k when your associates cite the Daily Mail, the Washington Examiner, and America Rising?

[Duckhunter935]

11. I do not as far as I know

glad that you think it is OK to use a right wing rag to slam fellow DU members. Funny when asked for example the poster ran away.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

13. TNR has endorsed every Democratic nominee for president since Woodrow Wilson

TNR has endorsed every Democratic nominee for president since Woodrow Wilson with the exception of 1980 when it endorsed John Anderson...


Yet I have seen the Daily Mail, the Washington Examiner. and America Rising cited here approvingly...

[beam me up scottie]

18. Stormfront was cited here by one of your associates.

The correct response is that no right wing source should be used to tarnish any of our candidates or supporters on DU.

I'm shocked by your approval of this one.

Oh, wait, no I'm not.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

21. Hugs

I'm shocked by your approval of this one.

Oh, wait, no I'm not.

-beam me up scottie

I literally couldn't care less what you and your associates think of me.

[beam me up scottie]

22. That's painfully obvious and probably a good thing.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

24. My fan club swells.

and s

[Scootaloo]

17. Duckhunter's not a clinton supporter. You seem to have mistaken him for one.

[Bluenorthwest]

6. A right wing source and a slam at DUers.

Good stuff.

[Ron Green]

7. What's your point here?

Right wing pols are excoriating HRC for "running to the left," and spewing their usual moronic stuff. Most of what I read on DU taking Hillary to task is for being cozy with Wall Street, too comfortable with war, wishy-washy on the environment.

The only game the Repubs can play is the Dumbass Game: put labels on everything, talk in sound bites, and peddle fear. Unfortunately, most Teevee "discourse" is just that as well.

Bernie Sanders is talking about systemic change and Hillary is not. We NEED systemic change. It's that simple.

[Segami]

8. "..There has been much hand-wringing..

"...of late in Official Washington about an editorial shakeup at The New Republic and the possibility that the century-old political magazine’s legacy will somehow be tarnished by its new owner. But the truth about The New Republic is that it has more blood on its hands than almost any other publication around, which is saying something.

In my four decades in national journalism – that’s two-fifths of The New Republic’s life – what I have seen from the magazine is mostly its smug advocacy for US interventionism abroad and snarky putdowns of antiwar skeptics at home. Indeed, you could view The New Republic as the most productive hothouse for cultivating neoconservative dogma — and at least partly responsible for the senseless slaughter associated with that ideology.

Though The New Republic still touts its reputation as “liberal,” that label has been essentially a cover for its real agenda: pushing a hawkish foreign policy agenda that included the Reagan administration’s slaughter of Central Americans in the 1980s, violent US interventions in Iraq, Syria and other Muslim countries for the past two decades, and Israel’s suppression of Palestinians forever.

Indeed, the magazine’s long-ago-outdated status as “liberal” has long served the cause of right-wingers. The Reagan administration loved to plant flattering stories about the Nicaraguan Contras in The New Republic because its “liberal” cachet would give the propaganda more credibility. A favorite refrain from President Ronald Reagan’s team was “even the liberal New Republic agrees …”

In other words, the magazine became the neocon wolf advancing the slaughter of Central Americans in the sheep’s clothing of intellectual liberalism. Similarly, over the past two decades, it has dressed up bloody US interventionism in the Middle East in the pretty clothes of “humanitarianism” and “democracy.”

The magazine – which has given us the writings of neocons Charles Krauthammer, Fred Barnes, Steven Emerson, Robert Kagan and many more – has become a case study in the special evil that can come from intellectualism when it supplies high-minded rationalizations for low-brow brutality.

In the world of the mind, where The New Republic likes to think it lives, the magazine has published countless essays that have spun excuses for mass murder, rape, torture and other real-world crimes. Put differently, the magazine afforded the polite people of Official Washington an acceptable way to compartmentalize and justify the ungodly bloodshed...."


cont'

http://billmoyers.com/2014/12/10/new-republics-ugly-reality/

[Fearless]

9. You do realize that supports the OP's point right?

[Segami]

10. And what point

may that be?

[Fearless]

12. I'm not going to get in a flame war with you

You're just going to disagree. No matter what I say. You'll disagree. I'm not going to waste my time.

Reread the post. It's very clear.

[Segami]

14. You are assuming too much..

'flame war', 'no matter what I say, You'll disagree'.......and you're not going to waste your time.

[Scootaloo]

19. Are you calling Bill Moyers is a right-wing source?

[Fearless]

20. No.

[ibegurpard]

23. I haven't seen ONE of those criticisms on DU of Hillary

I have seen them from conservadems against Bernie though

[zalinda]

25. This is just the coming attractions

if she wins the nomination.

Z

[Historic NY]

26. More like re-runs of the SOS ...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x3604026

[Kalidurga]

27. The only one I have seen here and it's true

Hillary is trying to run to the left of Bernie or at least close the gap. She is doing a horrible job of it to. But, I guess we aren't allowed to talk about that either cuz it's a smear on her sterling character.

[Thinkingabout]

29. Sanders has been running to the right with the GOP on gun issues.

[Kalidurga]

32. What makes you think I care?

And more importantly what makes you think I care about a blatant lie? Is he to the right of Hillary on that one issue, possibly. Is he wrong on how he deals with the gun issue legislatively? Not in my opinion.

[Thinkingabout]

33. Five no votes against the Brady Bill, the votes are recorded, it is not a lie. Ask Sanders about

this, if he is truthful he will tell you he voted five times against the Brady Bill. It might not matter to you, it does to me and many others. Yes, he is running far right on this issue.

[Kalidurga]

34. Great you care about guns more than you care about...

Our children being able to access a college education.

The prison industrial complex enslaving adults that have the nerve to smoke pot.

The military industrial complex spending being so out of control it actually threatens to bankrupt the country.

And not getting the oligarcy under control.

People working at slave wages and not being able to provide for themselves and their families.

GOOD on you for standing up for that one principle.

[Walk away]

35. I care about electing someone who actually has the support of Democrats in...

both Houses in order to attempt to do something about those issues. The fantasy election of a man without a party or endorsements from anyone in office from any party, is a very bad idea.

[Kalidurga]

36. Thank you for sharing your concerns

I don't share them. I am a liberal first a Democrat somewhere down the line.

[Walk away]

37. I am a Democrat and I also live in the real world!

[Kalidurga]

38. So

perhaps I live in some alternate world. I still get to vote and that's gonna leave a mark whether I am of the real world or not.

[Thinkingabout]

28. There are accusing remarks, not backed up by facts which happens every day. I can only surmise it

is for the lack of an agenda by their candidate. Clinton is running a great campaign, the republican candidates would love to have her poll numbers, she has listened to the citizens and is connecting to their needs. I don't know of other candidates who have spent the time to see what is going on in the US today like Clinton has. She takes their snarks and moves on, she has a mission and will not be deterred by RW talking points here or on the GOP debate stage.

[HassleCat]

30. I don't see it

The GOP candidates criticize Clinton for being way over to the left. Most DU criticism is because posters feel she is too far right. I don't see much similarity here, except it's all criticism of Clinton. Maybe that's it. All criticism of Clinton is equal? All who criticize Clinton are bedfellows?

[Armstead]

39. Bingo.

Anything remotely critical of Clinton automatically makes you a "hater" and an ally of Rush Limbaugh

[Trajan]

31. You outlasted the others ...

I think only because my Mom's family is Brooklyn, so I have a soft spot for anything with an "NY" attached ...

That isn't gonna save your arse today ... no sir .... using lies and exaggerations to insult Bernie supporters on DU ...

It's unacceptable ... Insult with facts ? ... That's why you're still here (as well as that NY tag) ...

But, this is obviously a fallacious appeal ... our rejection of Hillary's candidacy is based on an honest evaluation of her actions and pronounced policy positions ... It has nothing whatsoever to do with what Republicans think or say ... Not in any way, form or fashion ... If your going to insult us .. try a little truth instead ....

So ... You're gone ... Bye Bye NY ...

[Hekate]

40. What I find interesting is how they are all fighting the Dems and not each other.

Hate to take a page from the GOPer-book, but we might consider that ourselves -- and I'll spell it out: maybe we should be fighting the GOPers and not each other.

[ibegurpard]

41. Tell that to our President

Who teamed up with the Republicans against his own party on TPP fast-track approval.

[Hekate]

42. If you say so, but I wouldn't be so sure

I'm going by his previous accomplishments over the past 7 years, in which so many were so damned convinced that Obama had thrown this, that, and the other cause or group Under The Bus. One by one the things he has worked for have come to fruition, and in a good way. I notice he just now made the cover of OUT magazine, and I well recall all the shit that was flung here from 2009 onwards, while he plodded step by step by step.

Back in the day, my undergrad major was Asian and Pacific history. Obama is the offspring of that region as well, and all along he has appeared to know what he is doing. I've listened to what he has had to say about his intentions with the TPP, and it seems both sound and necessary. So I am awaiting results.

I don't expect this will do anything about your bitterness, but that's not my problem. I'm more concerned that one of our candidates is starting to back and fill on the subject in response to the storm of outrage. I feel like telling her not to bother changing her mind on TPP, as those who don't like her for her support will still not like her if she doesn't support it.

Still, my original position holds: our Dem candidates are not the enemy. Any one of them -- and I mean any, including Jim Webb, who has dropped out -- is light years better than any of the current crop of Repubs. As much as I might like one Dem better than another, and as much as I might hope that a particular person will survive the primaries and be nominated, I am not in the business of running down any of our people. Not while the other side harbors dangerously insane people who believe gays should be put to death.

[Nonhlanhla]

43. I agree

The differences between ANY of the Dems and the Repubs are VAST. I think it's a really bad idea to attack any of our candidates so much that they end up being damaged for the general. We should keep our eyes on the prize.

And yes, I'd vote for freakin' Mickey Mouse if he's on the Dem ticket, because whatever nightmarish clown the GOP comes up with will be infinitely worse. The thought of Ted Cruz in the White House, in particular, keeps me up at night.

[Bernblu]

47. What the Republicans at the debate said was tame compared to what is said by ordinary voters

A lot of what my Republican and Independent friends and relatives say about Hillary I would't put on the DU. Suffice to say they hate her more than Obama and much more than Bernie. And if she is the nominee they will all be coming out of the woodwork to vote against her. So, she better have a way of exciting the Democratic base but by saying she is not going to lobby her supporters against the TPP is going to be very exciting for many.