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Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 10:13 PM Nov 2015

Before Keystone Pipeline Decision,Hillary Clinton Backed Expansion of Fossil Fuel Development

http://www.ibtimes.com/political-capital/keystone-pipeline-decision-president-obama-hillary-clinton-backed-expansion-fossil

Hillary Clinton changed course in September and announced that she opposed the Keystone pipeline, but when she was secretary of state, her department approved another pipeline designed to tap into tar-sands oil from the same region of Canada that Keystone was designed to serve. The Clinton-led department said the pipeline would “advance a number of strategic interests.” Environmental groups such as Earthjustice told Reuters: “It means large amounts of more air pollution, large amounts of water pollution and extra [greenhouse gases] because more energy is required to convert this [heavy oil] into a refined, usable petroleum product.” In 2014 the Obama administration allowed the company operating the Alberta Clipper pipeline to significantly expand the amount of tar-sands oil it was pumping.

Though Clinton recently announced her opposition to drilling in the Arctic Ocean, she has supported expanding other forms of offshore drilling -- including in the Gulf of Mexico in the years leading up to the Deepwater Horizon disaster.

According to a scorecard of Senate votes compiled by the League of Conservation Voters (LCV), Clinton cast two votes in support of 2006 legislation to vastly expand drilling in the Gulf. Those votes put her on the opposite side of then-Sen. Barack Obama. That same year, Sen. Bernie Sanders (now her 2016 rival) voted against a House measure to expand offshore drilling. Clinton also voted in 2001 to kill a measure that would have restricted such drilling off the coast of Florida. Sanders voted for the restrictions.

Sanders -- who last week introduced legislation restricting drilling on public lands and offshore areas -- received a 95 percent lifetime rating from LCV. Clinton received an 82 percent rating. On Monday, LCV -- which is run by former Clinton EPA administrator Carol Browner -- announced it is endorsing Clinton in the 2016 presidential race. Sanders has been endorsed by another powerful environmental group, Friends of the Earth.
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Before Keystone Pipeline Decision,Hillary Clinton Backed Expansion of Fossil Fuel Development (Original Post) Luminous Animal Nov 2015 OP
What did Hillary's State Dept. do with Keystone again? merrily Nov 2015 #1
….. Luminous Animal Nov 2015 #2
Yeah except that dirty oil from Canada ibegurpard Nov 2015 #3
Yep. Luminous Animal Nov 2015 #4
I knew it was something like that. And a Democratic Congress made her approve it, too. Awful! merrily Nov 2015 #8
What up? merrily? Show your candidate's environmental bona bides Luminous Animal Nov 2015 #7
Are we doing challenge posting? merrily Nov 2015 #9
Sorry! I thought you were supporting Hillary! Luminous Animal Nov 2015 #10
Never mind my thousands of Bernie posts. I have a yooge Bernie logo and a L0oniX insect in my sig merrily Nov 2015 #11
I was on my phone and even with people I see on a daily basis it might take Luminous Animal Nov 2015 #12
I have problems with names and faces. It's how I am hard wired. merrily Nov 2015 #13
that crap in particular needs to stay in the ground. Agony Nov 2015 #5
Bernie thinks so. Luminous Animal Nov 2015 #6
Bingo! There is only one real choice. Agony Nov 2015 #15
Kick. Luminous Animal Nov 2015 #14

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
2. …..
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 10:39 PM
Nov 2015
http://www.state.gov/secretary/20092013clinton/rm/2010/10/149542.htm

QUESTION: Another international issue that you signed in on last year was the Alberta Clipper, a pipeline from Alberta that brings tar sands, oil sands directly into Wisconsin to the U.S. Midwest. This is some of the dirtiest fuel in the world. And how can the U.S. be saying climate change is a priority when we're mainlining some of the dirtiest fuel that exists. (Applause.)

SECRETARY CLINTON: Well, there hasn't been a final decision made. It is --

QUESTION: Are you willing to reconsider it?

SECRETARY CLINTON: Probably not. (Laughter.) And we -- but we haven't finish all of the analysis. So as I say, we've not yet signed off on it. But we are inclined to do so and we are for several reasons -- going back to one of your original questions -- we're either going to be dependent on dirty oil from the Gulf or dirty oil from Canada. And until we can get our act together as a country and figure out that clean, renewable energy is in both our economic interests and the interests of our planet -- (applause) -- I mean, I don't think it will come as a surprise to anyone how deeply disappointed the President and I are about our inability to get the kind of legislation through the Senate that the United States was seeking.

ibegurpard

(16,685 posts)
3. Yeah except that dirty oil from Canada
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 10:42 PM
Nov 2015

Wasn't being shipped to the United States...it was just being shipped through us.
Pay no attention to what she said and did in the past I guess...

merrily

(45,251 posts)
8. I knew it was something like that. And a Democratic Congress made her approve it, too. Awful!
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 11:57 PM
Nov 2015

If I'm not mistaken, her mother conceived immaculately, too. The woman is absolutely without a fault. At least without a fault for which she will take responsibility.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
11. Never mind my thousands of Bernie posts. I have a yooge Bernie logo and a L0oniX insect in my sig
Thu Nov 12, 2015, 12:32 AM
Nov 2015

line and a photo of Bernie as my avatar. And, if I were a Hillary supporter, I'd have to be a dumbass one to ask to be reminded what her state dept did with Keystone.

But, no worries. We are part of the same crowd.

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
12. I was on my phone and even with people I see on a daily basis it might take
Thu Nov 12, 2015, 12:45 AM
Nov 2015

a year or two to remember their name.

And I thought with your question, you were baiting me. Because, at state, she took no action which some people might interpret as a good thing.

And thanks for the hugs. And hugs to you too merrily!

merrily

(45,251 posts)
13. I have problems with names and faces. It's how I am hard wired.
Thu Nov 12, 2015, 12:54 AM
Nov 2015

I used to be in deep trouble at the annual office party, when spouses I met seven years running, showed up. Good thing I decided to go into business for myself.

Hillary, while Secretary of State, said of approving Keystone, "We are inclined to do so" and indicated a change of mind was unlikely. Close enough!

You're welcome and more hugs.



Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
6. Bernie thinks so.
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 11:45 PM
Nov 2015

According to a scorecard of Senate votes compiled by the League of Conservation Voters (LCV), Clinton cast two votes in support of 2006 legislation to vastly expand drilling in the Gulf. Those votes put her on the opposite side of then-Sen. Barack Obama. That same year, Sen. Bernie Sanders (now her 2016 rival) voted against a House measure to expand offshore drilling. Clinton also voted in 2001 to kill a measure that would have restricted such drilling off the coast of Florida. Sanders voted for the restrictions.

Sanders -- who last week introduced legislation restricting drilling on public lands and offshore areas -- received a 95 percent lifetime rating from LCV. Clinton received an 82 percent rating. On Monday, LCV -- which is run by former Clinton EPA administrator Carol Browner -- announced it is endorsing Clinton in the 2016 presidential race. Sanders has been endorsed by another powerful environmental group, Friends of the Earth.

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