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Civil Rights Icon Endorses Hillary Clinton (Original Post) ronnykmarshall Nov 2015 OP
This message was self-deleted by its author Fearless Nov 2015 #1
Her reason being she'd "prefer a woman over a Latino Republican" Fearless Nov 2015 #2
A few reasons why a woman might want to support this woman for President LuvLoogie Nov 2015 #10
And none of those reasons aren't Bernie-lite. Fearless Nov 2015 #13
What does Hillary's advocacy have to do with Bernie? LuvLoogie Nov 2015 #42
womens rights are the red herring of this campaign daybranch Nov 2015 #36
And yet Civil Rights stalwarts LuvLoogie Nov 2015 #44
Delores Huerta's quote on why she's endorsing Hillary~ Oct 9, 2015 Cha Nov 2015 #55
That's what you got out of that? George II Nov 2015 #16
We should expect more from OURSELVES, Fearless, Hortensis Nov 2015 #35
I don't want a Latino Republican in the White House either ibegurpard Nov 2015 #3
Wow that didn't take long ..... ronnykmarshall Nov 2015 #4
What didn't take long? I don't see anything except a great endorsement. nt BootinUp Nov 2015 #5
Maybe you have some folks on ignore, but I'm sure it was a reference to the first couple of posters JTFrog Nov 2015 #7
Yeah I have banished a few come to think of it. BootinUp Nov 2015 #8
I was talking about the attacks on Delores ronnykmarshall Nov 2015 #49
Under the bus she goes!! GusBob Nov 2015 #9
I'm beginning to think some of the Bros have mother issues... LuvLoogie Nov 2015 #11
Good point hadn't thought of that. Eom GusBob Nov 2015 #15
K AND R! JaneyVee Nov 2015 #6
No surprise there Gman Nov 2015 #12
Hillary thinks $12/hr is the right minimum wage Hepburn Nov 2015 #14
You're suggesting she's stupid? frazzled Nov 2015 #20
Hillary fans want to accept authority and assume those in positions are, Bernie fans look at issues daybranch Nov 2015 #37
Ms Huerta clearly has a range of issues on which she bases her decisions frazzled Nov 2015 #45
Two thumbs up for your post, frazzled! BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #52
^^^This!^^^ SoapBox Nov 2015 #21
Wrong. Hillary thinks that is more possible for now. nt kelliekat44 Nov 2015 #38
Exactly. Try and pass a $15 minimum wage in Congress - *this* Congress, and see BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #54
I think she is pretty much in the know. leftofcool Nov 2015 #50
Yet another great endorsement ismnotwasm Nov 2015 #17
Kick & highly recommended! William769 Nov 2015 #18
Delores Huerta is like the MLK of the Latino American community frazzled Nov 2015 #19
Nice! That's a great memory . R B Garr Nov 2015 #23
Wow. Very cool. nt SunSeeker Nov 2015 #22
Let the trashing of Dolores Huerta begin! NBachers Nov 2015 #24
I believe she is already under the bus. McCamy Taylor Nov 2015 #30
She's clearly gone third way nt firebrand80 Nov 2015 #41
Delores Huerta, John Lewis, Sherrod Brown.. because they dare to not endorse bernie. How funny Cha Nov 2015 #57
I guess it must be because she has no idea who Bernie Sanders is, pnwmom Nov 2015 #25
I got to see her in person a couple of months ago at my college. Starry Messenger Nov 2015 #26
Good on ya, Starry! Cha Nov 2015 #56
Hell yes! sheshe2 Nov 2015 #27
I'm sensing a Hillary landslide in the GE. We have the most oasis Nov 2015 #28
The United Farm workers offered me a job as an accountant at the headquarters in Keene CA upaloopa Nov 2015 #29
K&R McCamy Taylor Nov 2015 #31
I'm not sold on Castro firebrand80 Nov 2015 #40
I'm with you there. LuvLoogie Nov 2015 #46
HUD Sec Julian Castro sounds really good to me. He has that whole HUD responsibility he's Cha Nov 2015 #58
But Bernie's got that cage fighter's endorsement. moobu2 Nov 2015 #32
Only because Rosanne's not running this time around. OilemFirchen Nov 2015 #33
And she'll switch to Trump in the general. LuvLoogie Nov 2015 #47
the Democratic candidates are not supporting racism, sexism etc., but we must not forget who racism daybranch Nov 2015 #34
Hillary weighs as much as a duck! LuvLoogie Nov 2015 #48
Labour Icon SNUBS Bernie Sanders, endorses Hillary for President...nt SidDithers Nov 2015 #39
Heh. Codeine Nov 2015 #51
Good one, Sid...as always. BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #53
I love Delores and she's right about the choice if the options are Hillary or a Republican but I Bluenorthwest Nov 2015 #43

Response to ronnykmarshall (Original post)

Fearless

(18,421 posts)
2. Her reason being she'd "prefer a woman over a Latino Republican"
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 11:05 PM
Nov 2015

Really?

I've come to expect more from a civil rights icon.

Much more.

Gender is a bull shit reason.

LuvLoogie

(7,008 posts)
42. What does Hillary's advocacy have to do with Bernie?
Thu Nov 12, 2015, 11:10 AM
Nov 2015

I doubt very much that Bernie was on Hillary's radar in '95 in Beijing.

Don't let his insular nature become yours. Her work and circle of collegues and influence in this go beyond a few marches.

daybranch

(1,309 posts)
36. womens rights are the red herring of this campaign
Thu Nov 12, 2015, 06:52 AM
Nov 2015

Hillary gladly wears her pink outfit, so feminine, and delivers a horrible litany of abuses females unfairly suffer around the world yet every candidate for the democratic nomination opposes all of the abuses. While the horror of these practices inflame our passions and create outrage , we must not be misled into believing only a woman can or willl address them, or is biologically better able to do so. Auditing the military, we were often reminded we were not in the military and somehow did not have the mindset to understand, our reply then to them and to this video is it does not take a chicken to smell chickenshit.
I see nothing in this video other than Hillary as a woman or as Secretary of State got to declare to the world that females have their rights violated in disgusting and deadly ways and I thank her for it. My wife , my daughter and many of my female friends thank her for it but we are not willing to accept she favors human rights over her rich donors. Her unwillingness to support a living wage of $15 causes us to declare while she is in support of equality of the 99 percent, we worry about her concern for the dignity of the working person, female or male. Yes using the phrase womens rights are human rights but liberal men including both running for President already knew that and why is it that Hillary does not use the term Living wage but continues to use the words minimum wage? Maybe her focus is on the amount her rich donor class would have to give up rather than the actual needs of the people. Her language is republican language and certainly does not support any claims to being progressive.
So lets throw this red herring out, gender is not the issue. Gender is not the solution anymore than race was 8 years ago. There is no difference on the abuse of females, nor on pay comparability except that Berniie or O Malley may favor more family leave etc. Go Bernie!

LuvLoogie

(7,008 posts)
44. And yet Civil Rights stalwarts
Thu Nov 12, 2015, 11:27 AM
Nov 2015

like John Lewis and Dolores Huerta prefer to support Hillary's candidacy, your rant notwithstanding. Most Democrats it seems feel that this woman at, this time, is the right woman and the best qualified candidate, your rant notwithstanding.

She is the most admired worldwide as well. Her candidacy and her presidency will inspire more people into action on a variety of humanistic causes, your rant notwithstanding.

Yes gender is an issue. It's always an issue where power and influence is concerned.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
35. We should expect more from OURSELVES, Fearless,
Thu Nov 12, 2015, 06:33 AM
Nov 2015

so that we are able to honestly view and appreciate the thoughts of very involved people like Dolores Huerta.

Dolores Huerta said that in this case she would rather have a woman in the White House than a Latino REPUBLICAN. She feels ALL the GOP candidates are bad for America and specifically bad for Latino Americans.

Quite a difference from your restyling. Maybe rethink your whole post?

ibegurpard

(16,685 posts)
3. I don't want a Latino Republican in the White House either
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 11:06 PM
Nov 2015

And I'd love to see a woman there...but not this one.

 

JTFrog

(14,274 posts)
7. Maybe you have some folks on ignore, but I'm sure it was a reference to the first couple of posters
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 11:18 PM
Nov 2015

and their Debbie Downer predictability.

Hepburn

(21,054 posts)
14. Hillary thinks $12/hr is the right minimum wage
Wed Nov 11, 2015, 11:41 PM
Nov 2015

Here is what this civil rights icon thinks:

"We have to look at economics. Our minimum wage should be over $20 an hr. CEO's are getting millions for 1 year of work.

#LatinoHeritage"

The above quote is from your article.

Wonder if she knows that Hillary -- who gets $200K for a lecture, which would for 10 lectures/year = $2-million/year -- thinks those who break their backs to put food on her table only deserve $12/hour.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
20. You're suggesting she's stupid?
Thu Nov 12, 2015, 01:12 AM
Nov 2015

"Wonder if she knows that Hillary ..."

How insulting. Maybe you need to read about this woman. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dolores_Huerta

daybranch

(1,309 posts)
37. Hillary fans want to accept authority and assume those in positions are, Bernie fans look at issues
Thu Nov 12, 2015, 07:11 AM
Nov 2015

How insulting? Maybe you could make a better point- outrage may not cut it in my humble opinion. As Shakespeare says me thinks thou doth protest too much.
I am not saying this is you, but I get why I would be more willing to overlook contradictions from those in positions of authority or those perceived as somehow superior. You save a lot of energy, you never lose battles you never fight, you remain secure that the childish way we were taught to view the world continues, giving us a false sense of well being.

When you ask others to overlook contradictions they perceive, many of us find that very, very condescending but we
continue to think as analytically as we can and hope our conclusions benefit all of us, including you. Peace and blessings.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
45. Ms Huerta clearly has a range of issues on which she bases her decisions
Thu Nov 12, 2015, 11:29 AM
Nov 2015

and long experience in the real world about how things actually get accomplished. Bernie fans like to cherry pick single campaign statements as biblical truth and assume their authoritarian leader will carry them out come hell or highwater.

Who's being authoritarian? The world is far more complex, and the issues infinitely more multidimensional than mere slogans or campaign statements can convey.

And yes, her intelligence was being questioned by stating "I wonder if she knows." That woman knows more than anyone on this board ever will.

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
21. ^^^This!^^^
Thu Nov 12, 2015, 01:15 AM
Nov 2015

And just for good measure...

You should get $12.00 per hour

But she should get 200 THOUSAND dollars, for a SINGLE speech!



BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
54. Exactly. Try and pass a $15 minimum wage in Congress - *this* Congress, and see
Thu Nov 12, 2015, 11:24 PM
Nov 2015

how far that will get him. This Congress hasn't even been able to pass a minuscule $10.10 minimum wage, but Sanders can go all out and promise a $15 minimum wage? And people actually believe him??

Hillary Clinton is keeping it real. We can work toward more, but a $12 p/h minimum wage is a GOOD start since most States that have passed legislation to raise the minimum wage have already enacted a $10 minimum wage.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
19. Delores Huerta is like the MLK of the Latino American community
Thu Nov 12, 2015, 01:06 AM
Nov 2015

She founded the National Farm Workers Association with César Chávez, among other lifelong work. I heard her speak five or six years ago at an SPLC event, and she was so inspirational.

I didn't eat grapes for years because of this woman.

R B Garr

(16,954 posts)
23. Nice! That's a great memory .
Thu Nov 12, 2015, 01:40 AM
Nov 2015

Thanks for sharing. What a great contribution to this thread about this iconic woman who deserves our respect.

Cha

(297,272 posts)
57. Delores Huerta, John Lewis, Sherrod Brown.. because they dare to not endorse bernie. How funny
Fri Nov 13, 2015, 09:15 AM
Nov 2015

they try to diss anyone who supports Hillary. It's quite the pretzel revue.

pnwmom

(108,978 posts)
25. I guess it must be because she has no idea who Bernie Sanders is,
Thu Nov 12, 2015, 01:50 AM
Nov 2015

because it's all about name recognition, right?

Starry Messenger

(32,342 posts)
26. I got to see her in person a couple of months ago at my college.
Thu Nov 12, 2015, 01:54 AM
Nov 2015

She's a proud feminist and is still kicking ass.

oasis

(49,388 posts)
28. I'm sensing a Hillary landslide in the GE. We have the most
Thu Nov 12, 2015, 02:10 AM
Nov 2015

respected public figures backing a remarkable Democratic candidate.

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
29. The United Farm workers offered me a job as an accountant at the headquarters in Keene CA
Thu Nov 12, 2015, 02:15 AM
Nov 2015

I lived about 25 miles from there. I turned them down because I could not make my house payment on what they could pay.

I did tell them them that if I didn't need the money I would have loved to work for them since they were such a historic group.

The area was where Grapes of Wrath was filmed. Weedpatch camp was the migrant camp in the novel. It is still there in Arvin CA. The post office at the camp was the gate house in the movie. John Steinbeck dedicated the novel to the man who ran the camp.

I worked in Arvin city offices as a temp and got to know lot's of the people there. There is so much history from the dust bowl days and the grape boycott days there.

firebrand80

(2,760 posts)
40. I'm not sold on Castro
Thu Nov 12, 2015, 10:49 AM
Nov 2015

He seems like a good choice, but I don't know if he's ready for prime time.

I don't have anything negative to say about him, I'm just saying that some candidates will wither under the national spotlight, and there's no way to know if it will happen until they're thrown into the fire

Cha

(297,272 posts)
58. HUD Sec Julian Castro sounds really good to me. He has that whole HUD responsibility he's
Fri Nov 13, 2015, 09:20 AM
Nov 2015

in charge of.. President Obama chose him because he knew he would do a great job.

He has gravitas.

daybranch

(1,309 posts)
34. the Democratic candidates are not supporting racism, sexism etc., but we must not forget who racism
Thu Nov 12, 2015, 06:19 AM
Nov 2015

and sexism benefit primarily, and we can see both are used widely to create hate and division in order to perpetuate the careers of politicians serving as minions for their rich donors. It is somewhat contradictory that Huerta would choose to endorse Hillary while proclaiming that the workers need $20 per hour at the same time. Is it possible that Hillary is already negotiating for her rich donors when she proclaims she and her economist friends favor a $12 minimum wage rather than the $15 being fought for across the nation? Sometimes with friends like that, you don't need enemies!

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
43. I love Delores and she's right about the choice if the options are Hillary or a Republican but I
Thu Nov 12, 2015, 11:24 AM
Nov 2015

find it a bit contradictory because Delores has been advocating a $20 wage, higher than $15 and much higher than Clinton's chosen $12.

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