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Hillary Clinton, Dick Cheney and Bernie Sanders before the Iraq war in their own words (Original Post) Fumesucker Nov 2015 OP
bernie sanders supports obama's keeping troops in afghanistan. next? msongs Nov 2015 #1
The subject in question is Iraq Fumesucker Nov 2015 #2
This OP is about Iraq. Quagmire in Afghanistan created by the diversion to where they really wanted sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #3
Which has nothing to do with this. Thanks for playing! nt Live and Learn Nov 2015 #9
Those damn drive-byes... Segami Nov 2015 #14
and so does Hillary. Warren DeMontague Nov 2015 #17
Hillary claimed Saddam was harboring Al Qaeda: beam me up scottie Nov 2015 #19
If they had only listened to Bernie darkangel218 Nov 2015 #4
I only they had listened to Dick v1.9.94 Fumesucker Nov 2015 #5
No shit. Cassiopeia Nov 2015 #6
+1 nt Live and Learn Nov 2015 #11
Post removed Post removed Nov 2015 #7
Wouldn't it have been nice if Hillary had listened to Dick Cheney v1.9.94? Fumesucker Nov 2015 #8
It was BS from the beginning. Anyone that didn't realize it, wasn't paying attention. Live and Learn Nov 2015 #12
agreed Skittles Nov 2015 #13
did she vote for the thing, or not? Warren DeMontague Nov 2015 #18
Dang you Fume, you flared up my POBAB syndrome. Live and Learn Nov 2015 #10
I remember at the time I told a friend there were no WMDs and he looked at me like I was crazy.... Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2015 #15
As the Cheney video clearly shows it was the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy Fumesucker Nov 2015 #22
How dare you use these right-wing attacks against Hillary here, like "She voted for the Iraq War" Warren DeMontague Nov 2015 #16
Hillary's vote should have been a disqualifier for her to ever run for anything again as a Democrat. Scuba Nov 2015 #20
Hillary was told, this is the position you take if you want to be a "serious" contender for presiden reformist2 Nov 2015 #21

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
3. This OP is about Iraq. Quagmire in Afghanistan created by the diversion to where they really wanted
Fri Nov 13, 2015, 01:55 AM
Nov 2015

to go, Iraq, is yet another DISASTER caused by the Iraq invasion which had ZERO to do with 9/11 and which ordinary people knew. While too many of our Representatives apparently didn't have the same intel we ordinary people found on Google and voted for it.

Bernie is a leader, he has made the right decisions on almost every issue he was asked to make a decision on throughout his long career.

He has the two qualities necessary in a leader, good judgement and foresight.

Sadly his predictions on that day, have turned out to be so tragically true.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
17. and so does Hillary.
Fri Nov 13, 2015, 05:01 AM
Nov 2015

Neither point of which has jack diddly shit to do with voting or not voting for the Iraq War.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
19. Hillary claimed Saddam was harboring Al Qaeda:
Fri Nov 13, 2015, 06:24 AM
Nov 2015
"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including Al Qaeda members...

It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons. Should he succeed in that endeavor, he could alter the political and security landscape of the Middle East, which as we know all too well, effects American security.

This is a very difficult vote, this is probably the hardest decision I've ever had to make. Any vote that might lead to war should be hard, but I cast it with conviction."


Your desperate attempt to deflect from the facts on record is noted.

Cassiopeia

(2,603 posts)
6. No shit.
Fri Nov 13, 2015, 02:10 AM
Nov 2015

The intelligence was there. CNN was reporting it FFS!

The best we could do with the intelligence we had is bullshit.

Response to Fumesucker (Original post)

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
8. Wouldn't it have been nice if Hillary had listened to Dick Cheney v1.9.94?
Fri Nov 13, 2015, 03:14 AM
Nov 2015

I'm not the owner of any of those videos all I did was link to them, your accusations are slander.

But of course that's all Hillary partisans have, slander, straw men, red herrings and distractions.

You campaign with the issues you have not the issues you would like to have, you know, substantive ones.

Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
12. It was BS from the beginning. Anyone that didn't realize it, wasn't paying attention.
Fri Nov 13, 2015, 03:58 AM
Nov 2015

I expect Senators to pay attention! Hillary failed us.

Skittles

(153,160 posts)
13. agreed
Fri Nov 13, 2015, 04:06 AM
Nov 2015

anyone who could not figure out what they were up to was either complicit or HAD THEIR HEAD UP THEIR ASS

Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
10. Dang you Fume, you flared up my POBAB syndrome.
Fri Nov 13, 2015, 03:50 AM
Nov 2015

My POBAB (Pissed Off Beyond All Belief) syndrome flares every time I think about that damn war and those that supported it based upon obvious lies.

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
15. I remember at the time I told a friend there were no WMDs and he looked at me like I was crazy....
Fri Nov 13, 2015, 04:44 AM
Nov 2015

He said, "If that's true it would be the biggest lie in history!" as if I should back down from that absurd statement.

Then he told me there are too many checks and balances in place to let that happen. If nothing else, the MEDIA would NEVER go along with it. They would expose any lies so it MUST be true.

(He's that CNN fan I mention now and then.)

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
22. As the Cheney video clearly shows it was the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy
Fri Nov 13, 2015, 01:26 PM
Nov 2015

And Hillary fell for it, hook line and sinker just as her video shows.

It's instructive that the only Hillary supporters to post on this thread tried strawmen and red herrings.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
16. How dare you use these right-wing attacks against Hillary here, like "She voted for the Iraq War"
Fri Nov 13, 2015, 04:59 AM
Nov 2015

why, you're practically buddy buddy with the Koch bros, aren't you, what with you slinging this unfair misogynist purple gingham shirt brogressive white supremacist volvo driving right-wing anti-Hillary slander.



btw

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
20. Hillary's vote should have been a disqualifier for her to ever run for anything again as a Democrat.
Fri Nov 13, 2015, 07:22 AM
Nov 2015

reformist2

(9,841 posts)
21. Hillary was told, this is the position you take if you want to be a "serious" contender for presiden
Fri Nov 13, 2015, 07:41 AM
Nov 2015

Such a cynical move on her part, going with the Republicans just so she didn't look like some wacko fringe leftist peacenik.
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