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I just purchased Allan Lictman's latest 13 keys for 2012 he's predicting Obama will win 55% vote (Original Post) bigdarryl Aug 2012 OP
If we GOTV and bring enough women to the polls, it is possible. Dawson Leery Aug 2012 #1
Is that new? TroyD Aug 2012 #3
Not new he comes out with a updated edition of his book before bigdarryl Aug 2012 #7
His 13 keys system has nothing to do with getting out the vote bigdarryl Aug 2012 #4
Do you know Lichtman's track record on predictions? LiberalEsto Aug 2012 #2
He's predicted the popular vote in elections since Reagan bigdarryl Aug 2012 #5
Isn't 55% very optimistic? TroyD Aug 2012 #8
His formula works retroactively back to 1860. Dawson Leery Aug 2012 #6
I heard him on an interview over the weekend. He makes a lot of sense. tech3149 Aug 2012 #9
Mainstream Media..........HELLOOOO!!! thelordofhell Aug 2012 #10
I sure hope that happens and teaches the GOP a lesson. Kablooie Aug 2012 #11
Where do we get the book? TroyD Aug 2012 #12
AMAZON!!!! bigdarryl Sep 2012 #15
Allan is a very credible statistician!! I'm more inclined to believe him, and... Liberal_Stalwart71 Aug 2012 #13
kick Dawson Leery Sep 2012 #14
I think Obama will win but if he took 55% he'd be winning states like Indiana and other WI_DEM Sep 2012 #16

Dawson Leery

(19,348 posts)
1. If we GOTV and bring enough women to the polls, it is possible.
Thu Aug 30, 2012, 03:01 PM
Aug 2012

The next question is, how many people will vote third party. Will it be more than 2%? Only election day will tell.

TroyD

(4,551 posts)
3. Is that new?
Thu Aug 30, 2012, 03:05 PM
Aug 2012

I know he made a prediction in 2011 that Obama was going to win based on how many 'keys' (eg. categories) he was ahead in, but is this a new updated projection from Summer 2012?

Btw, the 55% popular vote number is nice, but it seems too good to be true. That would be more than the 53% Obama got in 2008, and that was in a very bad year for the Republicans.

Nate Silver is projecting Obama to get between 50-51% right now.

 

bigdarryl

(13,190 posts)
7. Not new he comes out with a updated edition of his book before
Thu Aug 30, 2012, 03:18 PM
Aug 2012

every Presidential election at least a year before the election

 

bigdarryl

(13,190 posts)
4. His 13 keys system has nothing to do with getting out the vote
Thu Aug 30, 2012, 03:07 PM
Aug 2012

he said Obama could sit down and not campaign for the next days until election and still win the popular vote.He said all these Conventions are a waste of money and time he predicted Obama would win the popular vote as far back as 2010 right after the Affordable Health care Law was passed. http://www.american.edu/media/news/20100712_Lichtman_Predicts_Obama_Wins_Reelection_2012.cfm

 

bigdarryl

(13,190 posts)
5. He's predicted the popular vote in elections since Reagan
Thu Aug 30, 2012, 03:12 PM
Aug 2012

he was even right with Gore winning the popular vote except the the Supreme Court stole Florida for Bush

TroyD

(4,551 posts)
8. Isn't 55% very optimistic?
Thu Aug 30, 2012, 03:29 PM
Aug 2012

Wouldn't that take a Romney meltdown?

Romney would have to do worse than McCain.

When does he project that Obama will go up to 55%? At some point during September or October?

tech3149

(4,452 posts)
9. I heard him on an interview over the weekend. He makes a lot of sense.
Thu Aug 30, 2012, 03:35 PM
Aug 2012

I may have to pick up the book to try and get a better understanding of his thought processes. His basic premise makes sense but he didn't discuss the influence of media disinformation.

Kablooie

(18,632 posts)
11. I sure hope that happens and teaches the GOP a lesson.
Thu Aug 30, 2012, 03:47 PM
Aug 2012

They need to learn that extremism, obstructionism and lying is not the path to leadership success.

Though many Americans still believe it is and vote for these policies.



TroyD

(4,551 posts)
12. Where do we get the book?
Thu Aug 30, 2012, 04:13 PM
Aug 2012

Is it just an ordinary book that one can purchase at places like Amazon etc.?

 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
13. Allan is a very credible statistician!! I'm more inclined to believe him, and...
Thu Aug 30, 2012, 04:14 PM
Aug 2012

I hope to God that he's right.

WI_DEM

(33,497 posts)
16. I think Obama will win but if he took 55% he'd be winning states like Indiana and other
Sun Sep 9, 2012, 10:46 PM
Sep 2012

red/purple states.

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