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stupidicus

(2,570 posts)
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 09:54 PM Nov 2015

Hillary Clinton Does NOT Support a Financial Transactions Tax

http://www.cepr.net/blogs/beat-the-press/hilary-clinton-does-not-support-a-financial-transactions-tax

surely there are very good reasons why that anyone on the other/right side of where the idiological center line use to be could understand and agree to.

The taxes proposed by Sanders and O'Malley would be a huge hit to Wall Street, bringing it back to the size, relative to the economy, that it was at two or three decades ago. Secretary Clinton has explicitly chosen not to go in this direction.

It is important for the public to recognize this difference. While the other two candidates are proposing measures that would be a major hit to the financial industry, Secretary Clinton is not. Voters should recognize this distinction in their positions; the reporting almost seems designed to hide it. [The Wall Street Journal committed a similar sin, although the error was not quite as egregious.]


I don't have any idea why that "we all want HIllary destroyed!!" corporate MSM wouldn't be trumpeting such a thing, do you?
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Hillary Clinton Does NOT Support a Financial Transactions Tax (Original Post) stupidicus Nov 2015 OP
HRC Is Funded By Wall Street - Her Funders Will Most Likely Operate With Impunity - If Elected cantbeserious Nov 2015 #1
Are you talking about employees who work for a corporation? It is legal for donations up to $2700 Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #8
Not The Same At All cantbeserious Nov 2015 #9
You know that is illegal. When open secrets tells the truth it is employees. They also show Sanders Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #10
Your Point Is Lost On This One cantbeserious Nov 2015 #11
Sanders must be bought by some also. We are finding out more everyday. Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #12
Not Like HRC Being Bought By Wall Street And The 1% - A Crasser Constituency Could Not Be Found cantbeserious Nov 2015 #13
Ridiculous Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #16
Disconnected From Reality One Sees cantbeserious Nov 2015 #17
Yes, Bernie is bought and paid for by the American middle class and those less fortunate. ThePhilosopher04 Nov 2015 #15
^^^ This ^^^ cantbeserious Nov 2015 #18
After he gets his tax proposals in place the less fortunate will have less. Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #19
Funny, this is almost a RW talking point. Kudos! n/t JonLeibowitz Nov 2015 #22
No, I am one who will pay the tax, Sanders said he was going to tax the rich, he is not taxing the Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #23
I will also pay the tax. JonLeibowitz Nov 2015 #24
When I am struggling already, taking more is going to hurt. Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #25
what I don't understand, and was hoping someone woiuld address stupidicus Nov 2015 #26
Bernie DOESN'T HAVE A WALL STREET PLAN. JaneyVee Nov 2015 #31
Of course not Duckhunter935 Nov 2015 #2
Then why does support a tax on high frequency trades? MaggieD Nov 2015 #21
So they don't donate to her because of 9/11? azmom Nov 2015 #3
Would this hit individual investors as well? RandySF Nov 2015 #4
Yes, I had heard about 1/2 cent per transaction. So you trade 1000 shares of AT&T, you would LiberalArkie Nov 2015 #6
Too bad. It's a great idea. merrily Nov 2015 #5
so why I ask, does Krugman think her "plan/s" superior to theirs? stupidicus Nov 2015 #27
Silly. That's one opinion. Reich prefers Sanders. merrily Nov 2015 #28
must be stupidicus Nov 2015 #32
um, wha? merrily Nov 2015 #35
your explanation for his behavior adds up stupidicus Nov 2015 #38
I take it your candidate is O'Malley then? merrily Nov 2015 #39
who? stupidicus Nov 2015 #40
The best choice, LOL! merrily Nov 2015 #41
Nobel prize winner Stiglitz is also adamant in favor of Glass-Steagall EndElectoral Nov 2015 #34
Yes, thanks. Stiglitz slipped my mind. The whole idea that one merrily Nov 2015 #36
Of course not they are all funding her campaign. onecaliberal Nov 2015 #7
Of course not ... ThePhilosopher04 Nov 2015 #14
She has a different plan to pay for college MaggieD Nov 2015 #20
I don't support it either. nt. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #29
Ummm...Yeah she does: JaneyVee Nov 2015 #30
yep, sure she does if you call two different things stupidicus Nov 2015 #33
Sure, people making millions trading will stop that nonsense because of a tiny tax. merrily Nov 2015 #37

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
8. Are you talking about employees who work for a corporation? It is legal for donations up to $2700
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 10:28 PM
Nov 2015

Just the same as Sanders and O'Malley.

cantbeserious

(13,039 posts)
9. Not The Same At All
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 10:31 PM
Nov 2015

Source - https://www.opensecrets.org/pres16/contrib.php?cycle=2016&id=N00000528&type=f

Miniscule Amounts From Financial Institutions

By Source

Individual Contributions $39,953,544 (96%)
- Small Individual Contributions $30,652,976 (74%)
- Large Individual Contributions $9,300,567 (22%)
PAC Contributions $200 (0%)
Candidate self-financing $0 (0%)
Federal Funds $0 (0%)
Other $1,510,040 (4%)


By Industry

1 Retired $973,306
2 Education $478,753
3 Lawyers/Law Firms $273,462
4 Health Professionals $267,076
5 Democratic/Liberal $264,748
6 Misc Business $261,224
7 Electronics Mfg & Equip $182,782
8 TV/Movies/Music $170,942
9 Business Services $169,630
10 Printing & Publishing $149,506
11 Civil Servants/Public Officials $149,367
12 Other $132,685
13 Internet $112,870
14 Real Estate $110,835
15 Hospitals/Nursing Homes $99,811
16 Women's Issues $66,580
17 Misc Finance $64,261
18 Misc Manufacturing & Distributing $49,663
19 Misc Services $48,020
20 Securities & Investment $47,833


By Organization

Google Inc $64,026
University of California $32,945
Microsoft Corp $20,102
University of Illinois $16,048
Apple Inc $15,783
Amazon.com $14,073
US Postal Service $13,088
Columbia University $12,558
IBM Corp $12,461
Boeing Co $10,317
Dartmouth College $10,061
Business Matters in the Visual Arts $10,000
Burton Snowboards $10,000
United Parcel Service $9,735
Cornell University $9,569
Kaiser Permanente $9,308
Federal Coal Co $9,200
Pacific Gourmet $8,700
National Education Assn $8,220
US Navy $7,639

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
10. You know that is illegal. When open secrets tells the truth it is employees. They also show Sanders
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 10:37 PM
Nov 2015

Getting more than $2700 from a source.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
23. No, I am one who will pay the tax, Sanders said he was going to tax the rich, he is not taxing the
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 11:53 PM
Nov 2015

Rich, they don't have wages or income. Guess someone should tell Sanders to go back to taxing the rich.

 

stupidicus

(2,570 posts)
26. what I don't understand, and was hoping someone woiuld address
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 10:40 AM
Nov 2015

is how Krugman thinks HC's WS reigning in plans are superior given this

LiberalArkie

(15,715 posts)
6. Yes, I had heard about 1/2 cent per transaction. So you trade 1000 shares of AT&T, you would
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 10:23 PM
Nov 2015

owe 1/2 cent. Who is hits are the high frequency traders who ruin the market for the small guy.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
5. Too bad. It's a great idea.
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 10:11 PM
Nov 2015
The taxes proposed by Sanders and O'Malley would be a huge hit to Wall Street


LMAO.
 

stupidicus

(2,570 posts)
27. so why I ask, does Krugman think her "plan/s" superior to theirs?
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 10:41 AM
Nov 2015

maybe I should write the guy...lol

merrily

(45,251 posts)
28. Silly. That's one opinion. Reich prefers Sanders.
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 10:44 AM
Nov 2015

Krugman never met a Third Way idea or politician that he wouldn't defend.

 

stupidicus

(2,570 posts)
38. your explanation for his behavior adds up
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 11:26 AM
Nov 2015

his opinion regarding HC's plan superiority doesn't imo considering the taxes from the inferior ones.

His favoritism (for 3rdway stuff) would be an acceptable explanation for that

merrily

(45,251 posts)
36. Yes, thanks. Stiglitz slipped my mind. The whole idea that one
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 11:19 AM
Nov 2015

commentator proves something is laughable, but then again, so much of what gets posted in GD: P is laughable.

That's part of its charm.

 

MaggieD

(7,393 posts)
20. She has a different plan to pay for college
Sun Nov 15, 2015, 11:33 PM
Nov 2015

I like her plan better. She DOES a support a tax on high frequency trading.

 

stupidicus

(2,570 posts)
33. yep, sure she does if you call two different things
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 11:09 AM
Nov 2015

the same thing

While Clinton has proposed a tax on high frequency trading, which is almost certainly unworkable, the other two candidates have actually proposed financial transactions taxes. The taxes they have proposed would raise between $600 billion and $2 trillion over the next decade. Virtually all of this money would come out of the pockets of the financial industry, since its primary impact would be to reduce trading volume. For the vast majority of investors, the savings from reduced trading would be equal or greater than the taxes paid on their trades.


merrily

(45,251 posts)
37. Sure, people making millions trading will stop that nonsense because of a tiny tax.
Tue Nov 17, 2015, 11:22 AM
Nov 2015

It's why I've never made a billion dollars myself. I mean no sensible person would want to pay the income tax on a billion dollars?

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