Why CBS Is Not Publishing The 4th Part Of The Democratic Debate

[Ferd Berfel]

The Fascist Oligarchy is in over-drive trying protect itself. Democracy will not survive without a "Political Revolution"

http://www.youngprogressivevoices.com/2015/11/16/cbs-not-publishing-4th-part-democratic-debate/

John Dickerson hosted the second Democratic National Debate on November 14, in Iowa, where the candidates talked about numerous issues, starting with the recent Paris attack and ending with crises management.

That’s not what’s interesting, though. What is interesting is that CBS has chosen to publish every part of the debate on their Youtube page except part 4.

Why is that you ask? Well, this was the part that dealt with Wall Street, but more importantly, featured Sanders finally going on the offensive (that’s actually over exaggerating it). Sanders questioned why Wall Street would donate to Clinton’s campaign if they didn’t intend to get something out of it. Clinton had to fumble for a response, talking about she did have a lot of small campaign contributions and that she helped New York after 9/11.

Of course, none of these had anything to do with Sanders comment and were obvious deflections, but the fact that CBS refused to publish this on their main Youtube page is telling about the bias they have towards Hillary and against Sanders.

[randys1]

1. For krist fucking sake.

If this is true then I just dont know what to say anymore.

FUCKUCKUCKUCKUCKUCK!!!!!!!!!

[randys1]

59. Have I been had again?

[NCTraveler]

2. Here.

&index=4&list=PLTSoBJlExMGPsX45fWDMO9ocbWDKbj8lQ

[Betty Karlson]

4. Thanks for that.

Still, it is worrying that CBS would refuse to carry that on their Youtube channel, while the other parts are offered without issue. It shows a terrible bias.

A candidate that needs THAT much help to win a primary doesn't inspire my confidence at all. She is a follower, not a leader.

[NCTraveler]

6. Wow did you just go full on conspiracy.

"A candidate that needs THAT much help to win a primary doesn't inspire my confidence at all. She is a follower, not a leader."

There is only one way to take that. You think the Clinton campaign, working with CBS, had them pull it for a couple of hours. I truly couldn't make this up on my worst of days.

"for the first few hours"

The goal posts are quickly moving.

[merrily]

32. Who are the conspirators and what did they conspire to do?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/127710043 (don't miss Ichingcarpenter's reply!)

[NCTraveler]

36. See post 4.

Don't miss NCTraveler's reply.

[merrily]

39. I saw #4 and your reply. Neither answered my question.

Assuming just for the purposes of discussing my question that CBS had decided not put up Part IV. With whom would CBS have been conspiring?

[Ferd Berfel]

54. Wall Street?

[merrily]

62. We can only guess, Ferd, we can only guess.

[George II]

49. Yes, full on conspiracy which describes the participants as Fascists! Too bad its totally false....

...the transcript and full video (ALL parts!) were up only minutes after the debate ended.

[PotatoChip]

20. Thank you. This part was unavailable as of yesterday.

All the rest were there, just not this one.

It does indeed link me back to the other parts of the full debate on YouTube.

I'm glad they finally put it up so that people can now see it.

This is much appreciated.

[NCTraveler]

26. "Thank you. This part was unavailable as of yesterday."

I'm really not sure what you are saying. I can tell you ten different ways to see this exact link was available yesterday just from the link alone.

[PotatoChip]

34. I'm saying I couldn't find it.

And I'm usually pretty good at that sort of thing. Especially after I had spent the time watching parts 1, 2, and 3. No part 4 when I looked, but 5 and 6 were there.

But I guess I didn't look hard enough since as sufro pointed out, there are comments from yesterday.

Still though, I apparently was not the only one with this issue, since the OP's article's author seems to have had trouble too.

Here is my post in the Bernie group asking if anyone knew where I could find the full debate. http://www.democraticunderground.com/128074109#post37

[NCTraveler]

35. Unavailable means something.

It doesn't mean what you are claiming it to mean. I have no reason to question that you couldn't find something. That isn't even close to what you said.

[PotatoChip]

38. I didn't claim "it" meant anything.

[AlbertCat]

44. Unavailable means something.

Pu-leez

It was unavailable to that poster at the time because they couldn't find it!

But they easily found all the other parts.

Why is that? That's all this is about. It's not an unreasonable question.

Perhaps it was being viewed so much more than the others at the time...or something...

Anyway, now that it is up.... why are you going on about word definitions?

This is not difficult. Nor are the questions and confusion nefarious.

[sufrommich]

28. "This part was unavailable as of yesterday"

It's got comments that were posted yesterday.Some were posted 20 hours ago.

[George II]

52. All parts were up on November 14, the night of the debate (which means less than an hour...

....after it ended since it ended at 11:00 PM)

Not only that, the full transcript was posted on the CBS site at 11:11 PM Saturday, minutes after it ended.

[moobu2]

3. Here you go.

edited to add all the parts.

[MaggieD]

24. LOL

[merrily]

33. Nice.

[Duval]

50. Aw, thanks! Too funny!!

[SidDithers]

5. Damn fascist oligarchy. Can't even scrub a video properly...

Sid

[sufrommich]

7. I knew as soon as I read the title that it would be debunked

within minutes.

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

21. LOL

"I didn't see it! I looked for a full .50th of a second and DID NOT SEE IT!!!!!"

[AlbertCat]

46. "I didn't see it! I looked for a full .50th of a second and DID NOT SEE IT!!!!!"

Well...if they found all the other parts in less than a full .50th of a second, it's not unreasonable to wonder where it was.

[upaloopa]

23. If we had to serve cheese with all the

whine we would have run out long ago.
I can just imagine what will be said when Bernie is not nominated.

[MaggieD]

25. Geeze they really suck at being fascist oligarchs

[Segami]

8. Another person who posted a Hillary Debate video

mishmash on YouTube also referred to the "missing CBS YouTube debate video Part #4" ....He goes on to say "I found the clip, thank God other people have posted it".

Is CBS trying to suppress YouTube Debate video #4...?

[sufrommich]

13. If you would have bothered to read through the thread,

there's a couple of links to CBS debate part 4 right on CBS's YouTube channel.

[Segami]

15. I did read the threads...

I posted what someone else on YouTube was saying..

[MaggieD]

37. A Bernie supporter on his facebook feed...

Told me that unicorns are real animals. i don't believe everything someone says on the internet. Do you?

[AgingAmerican]

80. Have you ever read the comments on Debbie Wasserman Schultz FB page?

Pure comedy gold! Oh, and welcome back....again.

[NCTraveler]

9. "Why Bernie Supporters Should Watch Out For Lawrence Lessig"

From that same blog. No shit, Lessig dropped out the day after they published that. lol. They have a keen eye around those parts.

http://www.youngprogressivevoices.com/2015/11/01/bernie-supporters-watch-out-lawrence-lessig/

[MADem]

43. I think that blog is "Young Progressive REPUBLICAN Voices." I think they trolling for the GOP!

They create a Potemkin Blog and then point and say "See? See? Look how f.cking flaky all those goofball Lefties are!!"

The thing I can't figure out is why anyone actually ON the left would be so eager to cut and paste what smells like bullshit at fifty paces and breathlessly pass it on, without even BOTHERING to do a thirty second fact check?

Here it is, from CBS News:

Took me eight seconds to pull that up.

Embarrassing.

[Cali_Democrat]

10. It's a conspiracy. nt

[72DejaVu]

11. Knock knock

The Men In Black are at your door, bro.

[firebrand80]

12. Bernie is building a sizable tinfoil hat brigade

[Trajan]

29. Bye bye

[Agschmid]

41. Please add me to your list as well.

Thanks.

[demwing]

57. your welcome

[Agschmid]

58. Phew.

[BootinUp]

64. lol.

oh dear.

[Agschmid]

65. I figure let's just get it over with.

I don't have anyone on ignore, so it's in them to ignore me.

[demwing]

56. You have a Bernie avatar

and a third way sig line!

You are conflicted at a basic level...

[DhhD]

66. third way

http://www.thirdway.org/

and

https://newdemocratcoalition-kind.house.gov/membership-0

[FSogol]

14. ALCOA!

[MineralMan]

16. Why Ferd Berfel Can't Find the 4th Part

That's the real mystery, I think.

[sufrommich]

17. I blame Red Stewart,Big liberal and gamer, for the fact free

article.Ferd is just the poor guy who fell for it.

[MineralMan]

19. It's always good to check such articles for facts.

That's what I find. It's a lot of nonsense out there on the interwebs.

[boston bean]

27. For a minute there, I read Rod Stewart!

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

22. BECAUSE THE OLIGARCHY, duh

[oasis]

18. Never have I seen a leading member of the Democratic Party so

maligned by fellow Democrats, especially with no "credible" evidence.

[KansDem]

30. CBS = "Cock-and-Bull Story" (nt)

[tritsofme]

31. It should be obvious who is behind this conspiracy!!1!1!

[dorkzilla]

40. Actually it was...

[MADem]

42. But they DID "publish it." Why would this source tell such a massive, honking LIE?

Dem Debate Part 4 - Heated exchanges over Wall Street, gun control
CBSN
CBSN

That's straight from the CBSNews page.

Now....why would 'the Young Progressives' (whoever they are) want to make Sanders supporters look like a bunch of loony conspiracy theorists?

"Fascist oligarchy?"

Please.

This is just some embarrassing shit. Who wants to associate themselves with these whining, lying lunatics?

Are these Republican trolls at this "Young Progressive Voices" webpage, trying to make the left look bad? Because if they are, they're doing a bang-up job of it....

[George II]

45. You really should do some research before you post blatant lies. The FULL transcript....

.....was published at 11:11 PM on Saturday night, just minutes after the debate ended:

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/democratic-debate-transcript-clinton-sanders-omalley-in-iowa/

PLUS, CBS released the full video of the debate in separate parts and , INCLUDING Part 4 - also just minutes after the debate ended:

Full Debate: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLeAhy4TE2-hXvpkc6s3HCFCjm4qFpnZFh

Part 4:

Why do you blatantly post falsehoods on this site?

[sufrommich]

47. A blatant lie with 46 recs. nt

[George II]

48. Yes, and among them someone with the amazing screen name "I hate liars"!!

[Agschmid]

51. "The new normal"

[Cali_Democrat]

72. 66 recs now.

LOL.

What an embarrassment for DU.

[BumRushDaShow]

53. Why are there 52 recs on a debunked story? nt

[PoliticalMalcontent]

55. CBSN did post Part 4 (Just two days the rest of the debate was posted).

It is strange to me that Part 4 was the only part of the debate to be held back from the initial debate posting. It was also the section of the debate where Hillary took the most criticism. Could it have been an accident that it wasn't posted with the initial batch? Sure. Coincidences do happen. I'm not sure I'm willing to give the benefit of he doubt.

Below is a summary of the videos as released on CBSN with date released and hit count:

Dem Debate Part 1: Candidates address Paris attacks, ISIS (Uploaded on Nov. 14th) (Views: 43,520)
Dem Debate Part 2 - Candidates spar on the economy (Uploaded on Nov. 14th) (Views: 20,368)
Dem Debate Part 3 - Candidates lay out vision for domestic agenda (Uploaded on Nov. 14th) (Views: 20,082)
Dem Debate Part 4 - Heated exchanges over Wall Street, gun control (Uploaded on Nov. 16th) (Views: 236)
Dem Debate Part 5 - Race, Clinton's emails, Sanders' electability (Uploaded on Nov. 14th) (Views: 17,506)
Dem Debate Part 6 - Crisis management and closing statements (Uploaded on Nov. 14th) (Views: 12,157)

Withholding Part 4 by two days has managed to reduce visibility on the 9/11-Wallstreet connection by ~20,000 viewers. It's not much in the grand scheme of things, but it is weird.

Why was the video not put up with the others initially on Nov. 14th?

[demwing]

63. Because of completely non conspiratorial reasons

which no one can define, or speculate about, or even discuss. And it doesn't matter how fucking weird it is because of many important stuffs and a plethora of different things...

It's like some vast, right wing conspiracy (hmm, where have I heard that phrase before?)

[PoliticalMalcontent]

68. We don't know the reason nor will we.

Speculation is natural. It is human to question things that don't quite make sense.

[demwing]

69. Just in case I was being unclear

I completely agree with you...

[PoliticalMalcontent]

73. My apologies :)

Have a lovely rest of your day!

[demwing]

75. I will

and make sure you do as well

[Enthusiast]

61. Blatant bias is what we have come to expect from the corporate media.

Industry wide. Industry wide. Industry wide.

[chervilant]

67. Well, you survived a jury of your peers:

On Mon Nov 16, 2015, 03:55 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

Why CBS Is Not Publishing The 4th Part Of The Democratic Debate
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251817579

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

Totally false "conspiracy theory" (the FULL transcript was published minutes after the debate ended) and "Fascist Oligarchy"? Do we really need inflammatory insults on this site to go along with blatant lies?

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Mon Nov 16, 2015, 04:37 PM, and the Jury voted 2-5 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: I haven't got eleven kids - I weren't born in Baghdad - I'm not half-Chinese either And I didn't kill my dad
It's not true, it's not true I'm telling you - 'Cause I'm up here and you're nowhere - It's not true, so there
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Gosh, alerter, could you not have offered this information as a rebuttal? We do have a tin foil emoticon for posts such as this, if it were indeed CT. Just doesn't qualify as CT for me. (Besides, Hillary did fumble her response about her Wall Street "obligations.&quot
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: It's a little late to hide it. On the positive side there's 40 posts making the OP look ridiculous.
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: We do have a propaganda debunking forum so if this is a lie-a lie out there in the public domain, let DU discuss and debunk it.
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.

[MerryBlooms]

70. Debunked crock of shit. Too bad you're just out of MIRT's reach.

[Cali_Democrat]

71. This post has 66 recs.

That's a lot of recs.

[MerryBlooms]

74. That's not for me to judge. Folks have their own reasons when they rec-it's not always in agreement.

[AgingAmerican]

81. Please show us where this was debunked

[Cali_Democrat]

82. Here

[AgingAmerican]

83. Please link to part 4 of the debate FROM CBS

That is not FROM CBS. It is a feed cap of the debate from a separate organization.

[Cali_Democrat]

84. You prefer the debate to be split up in parts? Okie dokie....

Damn fascist oligarchy!

[Cali_Democrat]

76. Kick for exposing the "Fascist Oligarchy"

[Codeine]

77. Brothers. Sisters. We don't need no Fascist Groove Thing.

Old people earworm.

[Cali_Democrat]

78. hmmmm.....

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251903468

[Cali_Democrat]

79. .

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[NCTraveler]

85. .