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msrizzo

(796 posts)
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 01:07 PM Nov 2015

Sanders campaign 'honored' by $500K support from super-PAC

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/fundraising/260754-sanders-campaign-honored-by-500k-support-from-super-pac

The Bernie Sanders presidential campaign says it is “honored” to receive more than $500,000 in support from a nurses union super-PAC, saying the independent financial backing in no way contradicts the Vermont senator’s opposition to big-money politics.

“We are honored to have the support of National Nurses United,” said Sanders campaign manager Jeff Weaver, responding to a report by the Sunlight Foundation — a group that tracks money in politics — that reveals the super-PAC has already spent $569,000 helping Sanders this primary season.

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Sanders campaign 'honored' by $500K support from super-PAC (Original Post) msrizzo Nov 2015 OP
What a 2 faced phony hypocrite. moobu2 Nov 2015 #1
This is a none inclusive SuperPAC zalinda Nov 2015 #7
Additionally TM99 Nov 2015 #33
It's a SuperPAC Jeeez. moobu2 Nov 2015 #35
Actually, no. JonLeibowitz Nov 2015 #56
Actually, yes. And there are other differences between a traditional PAC and a Super PAC BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #80
I am sorry but in your zeal to be right, TM99 Nov 2015 #85
In YOUR zeal to pat yourself on your back on how clever you are, BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #87
You know what I hate about Clinton supporters at DU? TM99 Nov 2015 #88
So if it is not a SuperPAC TM99 Nov 2015 #59
It IS a SuperPAC. One of its donors is Progressive Kick, a 527 group. BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #81
Not true. The NNUPP SuperPAC (and yes, it IS a Super PAC) has a 527 group as another donor BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #79
As long as he drops his false talking point now. JaneyVee Nov 2015 #18
Sanders' speech has so far been pulled from his stump: Billionaires, super PACs, fall of the middle riversedge Nov 2015 #24
Horse pucky AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #75
This message was self-deleted by its author AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #76
This explains a lot artislife Nov 2015 #28
IT isn't a superPAC AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #74
Wrong. It's a SuperPAC. It has a 527 group called the Progressive Kick listed as one of its donors. BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #83
It's a union. PatrickforO Nov 2015 #58
Speck vs. plank aidbo Nov 2015 #77
What did they spend $569,000 on? sufrommich Nov 2015 #2
Apparently mostly printing fees zalinda Nov 2015 #5
While it is a clear display of hypocrisy. NCTraveler Nov 2015 #3
No, it's not hypocrisy passiveporcupine Nov 2015 #72
Oh no Mr. Sanders.. the "honor" is all ours. Amimnoch Nov 2015 #4
Just yours. zalinda Nov 2015 #9
Beautiful deconstruction and Amimnoch Nov 2015 #11
When Hillary receives money from employees of corporations, it is said she is getting the money from Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #53
the nurse oligarchs vs Hillary and Wall St virtualobserver Nov 2015 #29
I am not sure they have enough intelligence to understand they should be embarrassed. Hiraeth Nov 2015 #43
That "smell of hypocrisy in the morning" is likely self inflicted demwing Nov 2015 #47
Interesting. He's "honored" to receive support that he claims that he doesn't want. DanTex Nov 2015 #6
It's from a union. zalinda Nov 2015 #8
Does that mean he wants it now? Or does he still not want it. DanTex Nov 2015 #10
Their affiliated Super PAC is helping Bernie: Cali_Democrat Nov 2015 #41
lol to see Hillary supporters 'concerned' about a nurse "superpac" LiberalLovinLug Nov 2015 #12
Who's concerned? msrizzo Nov 2015 #13
Yes, to people who are incapable of discerning the difference between Wall Street Maedhros Nov 2015 #48
You know the NNU is not a SuperPAC, right? demwing Nov 2015 #14
You're ruining a perfectly good dishonest smear. arcane1 Nov 2015 #32
Their affiliated Super PAC is helping Bernie: Cali_Democrat Nov 2015 #42
I shouldn't bite demwing Nov 2015 #44
Their affiliated Super PAC is helping Bernie: Cali_Democrat Nov 2015 #45
They have an affiliated Super PAC Cali_Democrat Nov 2015 #36
This message was self-deleted by its author Cali_Democrat Nov 2015 #37
"concerned" ie. concern troll LiberalLovinLug Nov 2015 #15
I'm neither concerned nor a troll. msrizzo Nov 2015 #25
But what you think is wrong demwing Nov 2015 #30
They have an affiliated Super PAC Cali_Democrat Nov 2015 #40
Posted multiple times in this thread. Number of responses to it: Zero. Number23 Nov 2015 #50
Still zero Cali_Democrat Nov 2015 #61
Do you people feel shame when you willfully mislead? [n/t] Maedhros Nov 2015 #49
jury results restorefreedom Nov 2015 #52
Oh jeez LiberalLovinLug Nov 2015 #84
Maybe its the "gold standard" of Super-Pacs? BootinUp Nov 2015 #16
Things that make you go hmmm? Alfresco Nov 2015 #17
Thanks to CU and our right wing SCOTUS, it's the way our elections are funded. MoonRiver Nov 2015 #19
As they should be! Go Nurses and Bernie! sabrina 1 Nov 2015 #20
Well, money is money. riversedge Nov 2015 #21
a super PAC by any other name... msanthrope Nov 2015 #22
He should return this money! He promised not to R B Garr Nov 2015 #23
I see he now loves Superpacs? Wow. What a trip. bravenak Nov 2015 #26
NNU is not a superpac JonLeibowitz Nov 2015 #31
And? bravenak Nov 2015 #34
So your post was incorrect and i was pointing out the innaccuracy. JonLeibowitz Nov 2015 #62
My post was fine bravenak Nov 2015 #63
If the NNU does not have a superPAC it most certainly was not fine. JonLeibowitz Nov 2015 #64
But it does, so, my post stands. bravenak Nov 2015 #65
Interesting. I may have misread the NPR piece but i think it implies it is not a superPAC JonLeibowitz Nov 2015 #66
Okay. I will look too. I'll let you know if I find something else. bravenak Nov 2015 #67
They have an affiliated Super PAC Cali_Democrat Nov 2015 #39
NNU is NOT a superPAC demwing Nov 2015 #27
They have an affiliated Super PAC Cali_Democrat Nov 2015 #38
Knowing Bernie is taking the high road, Hillary's supporters try to drag him down. reformist2 Nov 2015 #46
I thought those were the root of all evil? treestar Nov 2015 #51
This message was self-deleted by its author Gothmog Nov 2015 #54
This distinction makes no sense Gothmog Nov 2015 #55
That's a union. Bernie 100% has workers' backs 365/24/7, and he welcomes PatrickforO Nov 2015 #57
Nobody cares. The Nurses are fighting for health care for all. See the difference? Cheese Sandwich Nov 2015 #60
Sanders drops line attacking super PACs from speech after super PAC backs him Read more: http://www msrizzo Nov 2015 #68
Oh Goodie.. bernie's "evolved"! "Public admission by Omission.." as a friend of mine said. Cha Nov 2015 #73
I saw that. I don't fault him for taking the $ Rose Siding Nov 2015 #86
Ding!!! Ding!! Ding!! You shoot, you score!! Nice find. Nice post. nt Persondem Nov 2015 #89
Phony... Gloria Nov 2015 #69
Union money = money from many many union members workers. jwirr Nov 2015 #70
Open Secrets says they're a Super Pac... BklnDem75 Nov 2015 #71
Did you post this info in that other thread? You know the one from a poster who never met a piece of Number23 Nov 2015 #78
He's EVOLVING. Cut him some slack. MADem Nov 2015 #82
Yeah, he was whinging about it until this happened. Now, he's cut it from his stumper. Cha Nov 2015 #90

zalinda

(5,621 posts)
7. This is a none inclusive SuperPAC
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 02:26 PM
Nov 2015

which means only union members can contribute to it. So, basically it's a union supporting a candidate. The FEC declared it a Bernie SuperPAC, not the organization or the candidate.

Z

 

TM99

(8,352 posts)
33. Additionally
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 06:21 PM
Nov 2015

they can only donate a maximum amount and then that is all.

Plus all contributions are clearly identified.

They can not in any way, shape, or form work in conjunction with the campaign as they have Independent Expenditure status. Not all SuperPAC's do which is a mistake I keep seeing all morning even in a CNN article. IE status means that they are fully supporting one candidate or are working against one candidate. They are held to very strict guidelines as detailed above.

They are nothing like a Hybrid SuperPAC such as Correct the Record which is not only working in a gray area with online coordination directly with the Clinton campaign, but is also not transparent on where the donations are coming from and all going to.

This is a non-story but in typical Clinton/Rovian fashion it is being smeared out there like the bullshit it truly is.

moobu2

(4,822 posts)
35. It's a SuperPAC Jeeez.
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 06:24 PM
Nov 2015

Just because they don't call it a SuperPAc doesn't mean it isn't a SuperPAC.

JonLeibowitz

(6,282 posts)
56. Actually, no.
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 07:30 PM
Nov 2015

If you have seen Colbert's exploration of the super PAC system the only thing you need to do is say your PAC is a superPAC (and write a one sentence letter to the FEC). Not doing that means you are NOT a SuperPAC

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
80. Actually, yes. And there are other differences between a traditional PAC and a Super PAC
Fri Nov 20, 2015, 04:09 AM
Nov 2015

as you can read for yourself below:

A PAC, or political action committee, is a type of organization that collects campaign contributions from members and donates those funds to campaign for or against candidates, ballot initiatives or legislation.

An organization becomes a PAC when it receives or spends more than $2,600 to influence a federal election.

A Super PAC, also known as “independent-expenditure only committees” may not make contributions to candidate campaigns or parties, but may engage in unlimited political spending independently of the campaigns. Unlike PACs, Super PACs can raise funds without any legal limit on donation size.

http://www.iagreetosee.com/faq/what-is-the-difference-between-a-pac-and-a-super-pac/


Now the emergence of Super PACs has the potential to fundamentally alter the landscape of money in politics, and also represents a sharp departure from previous restrictions on financial contributions. That's because as of July 22, 2010, the FEC green-lighted Super PACs all but eliminating the previous financial donation limitations. Thanks to the FEC ruling, individuals, corporations and unions can now contribute unlimited cash to Super PACs, which essentially means there is no ceiling to how much money is injected into elections.
http://people.howstuffworks.com/super-pac1.htm


The NNUPP SuperPAC has another donor outside of the National Nurse's Union. That donor is a 527 group called Progressive Kick. Since I'm certain Progressive Kick is NOT a nurse or a member of the National Nurses United Union, it's false to claim that the National Nurses United for Patient Protection is merely a PAC and only receives money from union members. Progressive Kick is listed as a donor, too, which makes the National Nurses United a Super PAC.
 

TM99

(8,352 posts)
85. I am sorry but in your zeal to be right,
Fri Nov 20, 2015, 05:45 AM
Nov 2015

you are actually very wrong.

Instead of quoting www.iagreetosee.com, head over the actual FEC website where you will see that, no, not all SuperPAC's are independent expenditure only. The Nurses Union is, but Correct the Record for example is not. CtR is a Hybrid/SuperPAC and follows different rubrics and requirements.

So that is your first mistake.

The second one is your mis-reading of your own link. The 527 group Progressive Kick is NOT a donor. They were a recipient in 2012 of 1.5 million dollars.

That is your second mistake.

The Nurse Union does NOT get donations from anyone but its own union members. It is an Independent Expenditure SuperPAC which is very different from other SuperPAC's.

Read more carefully next time before patting yourself on the back for being wrong.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
87. In YOUR zeal to pat yourself on your back on how clever you are,
Fri Nov 20, 2015, 02:14 PM
Nov 2015

you, unlike me, failed to provide links to backup your claim. Like the link to the FEC website.

But even without it, I fully understand what kind of SuperPAC CtR is. But they are still considered a SuperPAC according to FEC regulations.

Thank you for proving me correct.

Thank you, also, for proving me correct that the National Nurses United is a SuperPAC, too. Much obliged.

As for my link to the Sunshine Foundation article by Josh Stewart that you claim I've misread, nowhere does it mention that Progressive Kick's donation was a refund. That's something you must've gotten from another post by another DUer on this subthread. So you're wrong. I didn't misread the article at my link. So I return the advice to you, TM99...read carefully before patting yourself on the back for being wrong.

To clarify this subthread's subject...by definition, an "independent expenditure only committee" (as my post highlights) IS a SuperPAC, but your fellow Sanders supporters were trying to make the case that it wasn't; that the National Nurses United SuperPAC is actually just a PAC. Thank you for proving me correct on this as well.

So go ahead and pat yourself on the back for being so indubitably wise as you agree with me and disagree with JonLeibowitz and passiveporcupine, both Sanders supporters, who are trying to make the case that Bernie's SuperPAC isn't a SuperPAC. They are wrong, you and I are correct.

 

TM99

(8,352 posts)
88. You know what I hate about Clinton supporters at DU?
Fri Nov 20, 2015, 03:13 PM
Nov 2015

The arrogant bullshit they spew on a constant basis.

I think you are quite smart enough to go to the FEC website yourself. As there are multiple pages detailing all of the differences between the types of SuperPAC's, you can read those yourself.

We are both right. In 2009, this union was simply a PAC. This year, they decided to endorse only one candidate. That made them a type of SuperPAC for this campaign season only.

And they are held to different rubrics than other types of SuperPAC like Correct the Record.

But you are still being so zealous and snarky that you are unwilling to recognize the differences and why comparing SuperPAC's that might as well be laundering money for Jeb Bush or Hillary Clinton are vastly different than this nurses union.

Bravo!

 

TM99

(8,352 posts)
59. So if it is not a SuperPAC
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 08:28 PM
Nov 2015

then how can it be a SuperPAC?

Really, go to the FEC website. PAC's and SuperPAC's are not all alike. There are different designations for the different types according to how can contribute, how much can go to a campaign, etc.

The Nurses Union Limited Expenditure SuperPAC is NOT equal to the Correct the Record SuperPAC. To attempt to equate them with a semantic game that is not factually correct is why man of us Sanders supporters really despise the dirty fucking politics of Clinton and her supporters.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
81. It IS a SuperPAC. One of its donors is Progressive Kick, a 527 group.
Fri Nov 20, 2015, 04:14 AM
Nov 2015

With Progressive Kick as a donor, the National Nurses United PAC is not merely a traditional PAC but has become a SuperPAC.

I've outlined the differences between PACs and SuperPACs, in my post just above yours: http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=830718

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
79. Not true. The NNUPP SuperPAC (and yes, it IS a Super PAC) has a 527 group as another donor
Fri Nov 20, 2015, 03:52 AM
Nov 2015

and they have nothing to do with the Nurse's Union, so it makes the NNYPP Super PAC a Super PAC, not just a PAC.

National Nurses United for Patient Protection is a super PAC whose primary donor is National Nurses United, a union of more than 185,000 registered nurses across all 50 states. The super PAC also has another donor from its filing earlier this year, a 527 group called Progressive Kick, which runs donor-matching programs for progressive causes.
http://sunlightfoundation.com/blog/2015/11/18/bernie-sanders-benefits-from-566000-in-super-pac-support-from-nurses-union/


Difference between a PAC and Super PAC:

A PAC, or political action committee, is a type of organization that collects campaign contributions from members and donates those funds to campaign for or against candidates, ballot initiatives or legislation.

An organization becomes a PAC when it receives or spends more than $2,600 to influence a federal election.

A Super PAC, also known as “independent-expenditure only committees” may not make contributions to candidate campaigns or parties, but may engage in unlimited political spending independently of the campaigns. Unlike PACs, Super PACs can raise funds without any legal limit on donation size.
http://www.iagreetosee.com/faq/what-is-the-difference-between-a-pac-and-a-super-pac/

riversedge

(70,205 posts)
24. Sanders' speech has so far been pulled from his stump: Billionaires, super PACs, fall of the middle
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 05:47 PM
Nov 2015

seems nope!

Dan Merica ?@danmericaCNN 2h2 hours ago

Aside from the FDR lines, Dan Merica ?@danmericaCNN 2h2 hours ago

Aside from the FDR lines, much of Sanders' speech has so far been pulled from his stump: Billionaires, super PACs, fall of the middle class.

Response to riversedge (Reply #24)

 

artislife

(9,497 posts)
28. This explains a lot
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 06:05 PM
Nov 2015

I will be gentler with my thoughts about you. Realizing now that the difference is not apparent to you clears up a lot.

May you have a gentle life with plenty of support.

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
83. Wrong. It's a SuperPAC. It has a 527 group called the Progressive Kick listed as one of its donors.
Fri Nov 20, 2015, 04:29 AM
Nov 2015

The 527 group, Progressive Kick is NOT a nurse nor a member of the nurses' union. And only SuperPACs are allowed to accept donations from, among other types of donors, outside organizations. PACs cannot.

Also...

Currently, super PACs only have to file reports with the FEC every six months in off years. This increases to quarterly or monthly during the election year. Following these types of expenditures, which are generally reported to the FEC within 48 hours, is one of the ways Sunlight tracks the flow of money out of super PACs and other outside groups.
http://realtime.influenceexplorer.com/outside-spending/#?ordering=-expenditure_date_formatted&filer_committee_id_number=C00490375

The National Nurses United has been filing monthly, as Super PACs have to do. That makes it a SuperPAC.

 

aidbo

(2,328 posts)
77. Speck vs. plank
Fri Nov 20, 2015, 03:30 AM
Nov 2015

First remove the plank from your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.

zalinda

(5,621 posts)
5. Apparently mostly printing fees
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 02:24 PM
Nov 2015

The have been printing handouts, lots of them according to sources.

Z

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
3. While it is a clear display of hypocrisy.
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 01:18 PM
Nov 2015

I would be honored as well. As I said yesterday I don't begrudge Clinton for running away with union support. Simple fact. It isn't which party these unions will endorse, its which democrat. That is awesome.

passiveporcupine

(8,175 posts)
72. No, it's not hypocrisy
Fri Nov 20, 2015, 02:30 AM
Nov 2015

Because it is not a real Super Pac.

Here's what sets it apart from the presidential superPACs.

First, its donor list. The other superPACs are financed largely by millionaires. As for the NNU committee, "It's funded exclusively by our members," said Michael Lighty, the union's public policy director.

Technically, the PAC dates back to 2009, when independent expenditures were legal but the legal concept of superPACs did not yet exist. In the 2014 elections, Federal Election Commission records show, the nurses PAC spent $2.3 million, and was entirely funded by the union itself.


Then he (Jeff Weaver) drew a line between the NNU PAC and the presidential superPACS. "We have not started a superPAC, are not coordinating with a superPAC, and we have not fundraised for a superPAC," he said. "We stand by our position that we do not want the help of a superPAC."


This is union members (workers), not big money from corporate CEO's or owners. This money is coming from individuals like you and me. They are just doing it through their union. Yes, unions can come up with big donations, but it's all from little people like us.

from wiki
Before Super PACs became "super," they were just PACs, or Political Action Committees. The groups could support a candidate or a cause, but were heavily regulated under the terms of campaign finance law. Individuals were allowed to give $2,500 -- no more -- and corporations and unions were strictly forbidden from making donations.


How many union workers (not management or CEO's or Presidents or Owners of Corporations) who can contribute $2500 to a presidential campaign? The big Super Pacs Bernie is talking about have unlimited donations coming from the top people involved in big corporations, some of whom can donate millions each, now hidden in a super pac.
 

Amimnoch

(4,558 posts)
4. Oh no Mr. Sanders.. the "honor" is all ours.
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 02:11 PM
Nov 2015

My my my.. how I do love the smell of hypocrisy in the morning.

No shame at all in actually accepting support from legal sources imho. Doing so, either while or after spending so much time criticizing others for the same..

Miranda says: "Not very presidential"

 

Amimnoch

(4,558 posts)
11. Beautiful deconstruction and
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 02:32 PM
Nov 2015

a most wonderous attempt at Faulty Causation Fallacy

The golf-clap is strong here.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
53. When Hillary receives money from employees of corporations, it is said she is getting the money from
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 07:14 PM
Nov 2015

Wall Street. Now I see you say the donations Sanders gets is from members, do you see a problem here? Either get it one way or the other.

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
47. That "smell of hypocrisy in the morning" is likely self inflicted
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 06:40 PM
Nov 2015

it's morning breath from swallowing a nonsense OP.

zalinda

(5,621 posts)
8. It's from a union.
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 02:28 PM
Nov 2015

But then you know that.

Hillary is really worried, isn't she? Or is it her supporters?

Z

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
41. Their affiliated Super PAC is helping Bernie:
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 06:32 PM
Nov 2015

<...>

National Nurses United endorsed Sanders on Aug. 11, and to date the group's affiliated super PAC has spent a little more than $569,000 in support of him. The spending ranges from print and online ads to printing materials, with significant buys in key states like Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina and Nevada. As of the last super PAC filing on June 30, the group had about $250,000 cash on hand.

National Nurses United for Patient Protection is a super PAC whose primary donor is National Nurses United, a union of more than 185,000 registered nurses across all 50 states. The super PAC also has another donor from its filing earlier this year, a 527 group called Progressive Kick, which runs donor-matching programs for progressive causes.

Using our Real-Time Federal Campaign Finance tracker, we were able to search all of the group's independent expenditures filed with the Federal Election Commission.

Read more:

http://sunlightfoundation.com/blog/2015/11/18/bernie-sanders-benefits-from-566000-in-super-pac-support-from-nurses-union/

LiberalLovinLug

(14,173 posts)
12. lol to see Hillary supporters 'concerned' about a nurse "superpac"
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 03:01 PM
Nov 2015

After her gluttonous appetite for Wall Street millions.

http://www.npr.org/2015/11/19/456560662/superpac-or-not-this-group-has-money-to-bern-for-sanders

First, its donor list. The other superPACs are financed largely by millionaires. As for the NNU committee, "It's funded exclusively by our members," said Michael Lighty, the union's public policy director.

Technically, the PAC dates back to 2009, when independent expenditures were legal but the legal concept of superPACs did not yet exist. In the 2014 elections, Federal Election Commission records show, the nurses PAC spent $2.3 million, and was entirely funded by the union itself. There's only one disclosure report for this year, through June 30; the PAC reported getting no contributions at all.


This so-called Superpac existed before the legal concept was established. It was not solely created to help Sanders but to push Single Payer and other health initiatives. You righteous Hillary defenders do understand the difference between members of unions, and large financial corporations don't you?

 

Maedhros

(10,007 posts)
48. Yes, to people who are incapable of discerning the difference between Wall Street
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 06:42 PM
Nov 2015

and nurse's unions, it might appear amusing.

But then, Hillary supporters have any number of blinds spots when it comes to their candidate, so it's not much of a surprise.

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
42. Their affiliated Super PAC is helping Bernie:
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 06:33 PM
Nov 2015

<...>

National Nurses United endorsed Sanders on Aug. 11, and to date the group's affiliated super PAC has spent a little more than $569,000 in support of him. The spending ranges from print and online ads to printing materials, with significant buys in key states like Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina and Nevada. As of the last super PAC filing on June 30, the group had about $250,000 cash on hand.

National Nurses United for Patient Protection is a super PAC whose primary donor is National Nurses United, a union of more than 185,000 registered nurses across all 50 states. The super PAC also has another donor from its filing earlier this year, a 527 group called Progressive Kick, which runs donor-matching programs for progressive causes.

Using our Real-Time Federal Campaign Finance tracker, we were able to search all of the group's independent expenditures filed with the Federal Election Commission.

Read more:

http://sunlightfoundation.com/blog/2015/11/18/bernie-sanders-benefits-from-566000-in-super-pac-support-from-nurses-union/

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
44. I shouldn't bite
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 06:34 PM
Nov 2015

The chance that the OP is just confused is somewhere between "No" and "Hell No"

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
45. Their affiliated Super PAC is helping Bernie:
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 06:36 PM
Nov 2015

<...>

National Nurses United endorsed Sanders on Aug. 11, and to date the group's affiliated super PAC has spent a little more than $569,000 in support of him. The spending ranges from print and online ads to printing materials, with significant buys in key states like Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina and Nevada. As of the last super PAC filing on June 30, the group had about $250,000 cash on hand.

National Nurses United for Patient Protection is a super PAC whose primary donor is National Nurses United, a union of more than 185,000 registered nurses across all 50 states. The super PAC also has another donor from its filing earlier this year, a 527 group called Progressive Kick, which runs donor-matching programs for progressive causes.

Using our Real-Time Federal Campaign Finance tracker, we were able to search all of the group's independent expenditures filed with the Federal Election Commission.

Read more:

http://sunlightfoundation.com/blog/2015/11/18/bernie-sanders-benefits-from-566000-in-super-pac-support-from-nurses-union/

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
36. They have an affiliated Super PAC
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 06:30 PM
Nov 2015

<...>

National Nurses United endorsed Sanders on Aug. 11, and to date the group's affiliated super PAC has spent a little more than $569,000 in support of him. The spending ranges from print and online ads to printing materials, with significant buys in key states like Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina and Nevada. As of the last super PAC filing on June 30, the group had about $250,000 cash on hand.

National Nurses United for Patient Protection is a super PAC whose primary donor is National Nurses United, a union of more than 185,000 registered nurses across all 50 states. The super PAC also has another donor from its filing earlier this year, a 527 group called Progressive Kick, which runs donor-matching programs for progressive causes.

Using our Real-Time Federal Campaign Finance tracker, we were able to search all of the group's independent expenditures filed with the Federal Election Commission.

Read more:

http://sunlightfoundation.com/blog/2015/11/18/bernie-sanders-benefits-from-566000-in-super-pac-support-from-nurses-union/

Response to demwing (Reply #14)

LiberalLovinLug

(14,173 posts)
15. "concerned" ie. concern troll
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 03:26 PM
Nov 2015

I'll never be surprised at what Hillary supporters find amusing.

Hillary supporters standing behind a candidate with her Gucci purse stuffed to overflowing with Wall Street criminals money, pointing and laughing at the other candidate that gets a donation from a national union, with full backing from its members, (unlike the teachers union) without asking for it.

msrizzo

(796 posts)
25. I'm neither concerned nor a troll.
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 06:01 PM
Nov 2015

Sorry that you are all worked up about me and people like me. I'm going to block you and I think you should block me too so you can save yourself the trouble of knowing what I think.

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
30. But what you think is wrong
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 06:09 PM
Nov 2015

Last edited Thu Nov 19, 2015, 10:43 PM - Edit history (1)

NNU is not a super PAC.

Correct it, delete it, eat it, I don't care.

But when someone continues to repeat something that's been proved untrue, the error expands from ignorance to dishonesty.

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
40. They have an affiliated Super PAC
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 06:31 PM
Nov 2015

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National Nurses United endorsed Sanders on Aug. 11, and to date the group's affiliated super PAC has spent a little more than $569,000 in support of him. The spending ranges from print and online ads to printing materials, with significant buys in key states like Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina and Nevada. As of the last super PAC filing on June 30, the group had about $250,000 cash on hand.

National Nurses United for Patient Protection is a super PAC whose primary donor is National Nurses United, a union of more than 185,000 registered nurses across all 50 states. The super PAC also has another donor from its filing earlier this year, a 527 group called Progressive Kick, which runs donor-matching programs for progressive causes.

Using our Real-Time Federal Campaign Finance tracker, we were able to search all of the group's independent expenditures filed with the Federal Election Commission.

Read more:

http://sunlightfoundation.com/blog/2015/11/18/bernie-sanders-benefits-from-566000-in-super-pac-support-from-nurses-union/

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
52. jury results
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 07:10 PM
Nov 2015

On Thu Nov 19, 2015, 02:47 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

"concerned" ie. concern troll
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=828761

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This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

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Calling another DUer a "concern troll" is a hurtful and over-the-top personal attack.

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MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
19. Thanks to CU and our right wing SCOTUS, it's the way our elections are funded.
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 04:45 PM
Nov 2015

Congrats to Mr. Sanders for finally accepting the inevitable.

R B Garr

(16,950 posts)
23. He should return this money! He promised not to
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 05:42 PM
Nov 2015

do this, and this is a dishonorable breach of the sacredness of his vows. He can never be trusted again. His whole platform is now turned asunder. His supporters should demand this be returned forthwith. I expect purity protests soon! They must be outraged!

JonLeibowitz

(6,282 posts)
66. Interesting. I may have misread the NPR piece but i think it implies it is not a superPAC
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 10:32 PM
Nov 2015

Not sure what to believe and will do more digging later when i get home. One thing that makes me think it is not a superPAC is that they existed in this form before citizens United so i don't see how it is a superpac. More digging would be needed, happy to chat more.

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
39. They have an affiliated Super PAC
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 06:30 PM
Nov 2015

<...>

National Nurses United endorsed Sanders on Aug. 11, and to date the group's affiliated super PAC has spent a little more than $569,000 in support of him. The spending ranges from print and online ads to printing materials, with significant buys in key states like Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina and Nevada. As of the last super PAC filing on June 30, the group had about $250,000 cash on hand.

National Nurses United for Patient Protection is a super PAC whose primary donor is National Nurses United, a union of more than 185,000 registered nurses across all 50 states. The super PAC also has another donor from its filing earlier this year, a 527 group called Progressive Kick, which runs donor-matching programs for progressive causes.

Using our Real-Time Federal Campaign Finance tracker, we were able to search all of the group's independent expenditures filed with the Federal Election Commission.

Read more:

http://sunlightfoundation.com/blog/2015/11/18/bernie-sanders-benefits-from-566000-in-super-pac-support-from-nurses-union/

 

Cali_Democrat

(30,439 posts)
38. They have an affiliated Super PAC
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 06:30 PM
Nov 2015

<...>

National Nurses United endorsed Sanders on Aug. 11, and to date the group's affiliated super PAC has spent a little more than $569,000 in support of him. The spending ranges from print and online ads to printing materials, with significant buys in key states like Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina and Nevada. As of the last super PAC filing on June 30, the group had about $250,000 cash on hand.

National Nurses United for Patient Protection is a super PAC whose primary donor is National Nurses United, a union of more than 185,000 registered nurses across all 50 states. The super PAC also has another donor from its filing earlier this year, a 527 group called Progressive Kick, which runs donor-matching programs for progressive causes.

Using our Real-Time Federal Campaign Finance tracker, we were able to search all of the group's independent expenditures filed with the Federal Election Commission.

Read more:

http://sunlightfoundation.com/blog/2015/11/18/bernie-sanders-benefits-from-566000-in-super-pac-support-from-nurses-union/

reformist2

(9,841 posts)
46. Knowing Bernie is taking the high road, Hillary's supporters try to drag him down.
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 06:37 PM
Nov 2015

It's not a pretty sight, watching them try to make themselves feel better about Hillary's millions by pretending that Bernie is even partly guilty of what Hillary is doing.

Response to msrizzo (Original post)

PatrickforO

(14,572 posts)
57. That's a union. Bernie 100% has workers' backs 365/24/7, and he welcomes
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 07:34 PM
Nov 2015

financial support from unions.

msrizzo

(796 posts)
68. Sanders drops line attacking super PACs from speech after super PAC backs him Read more: http://www
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 10:43 PM
Nov 2015

Sanders drops line attacking super PACs from speech after super PAC backs him Read more: http://wwwhttp://www.politico.com/story/2015/11/bernie-sanders-drops-super-pacs-attack-216088

Bernie Sanders’ disapproval of super PACs is a stand-by theme in his stump speech, and it’s a concept that was included in the prepared remarks of his much-anticipated speech on democratic socialism on Thursday.

But the pre-written line went missing on Thursday, as Sanders — with two TelePrompTers standing before him — skipped straight from a passage about mandatory voter registration to a line-by-line explanation of the differences between his own ideology and the socialism people commonly think of.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/11/bernie-sanders-drops-super-pacs-attack-216088#ixzz3rznmLdr5

Cha

(297,196 posts)
73. Oh Goodie.. bernie's "evolved"! "Public admission by Omission.." as a friend of mine said.
Fri Nov 20, 2015, 03:09 AM
Nov 2015

Thank you msrizzo~

Rose Siding

(32,623 posts)
86. I saw that. I don't fault him for taking the $
Fri Nov 20, 2015, 11:32 AM
Nov 2015

But it wouldn't hurt for him to explain how cash is needed in nat'l politics given the current system. I support changes but not surrender, and I stand right up and cheer when HRC advocates the demise of CU, up to and including a Constitutional amendment.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
70. Union money = money from many many union members workers.
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 11:24 PM
Nov 2015

Corporate = money from a business that is interested in the bottom line - profits.

BklnDem75

(2,918 posts)
71. Open Secrets says they're a Super Pac...
Thu Nov 19, 2015, 11:59 PM
Nov 2015

Official PAC Name:
NATIONAL NURSES UNITED FOR PATIENT PROTECTION
Location: SILVER SPRING, MD 20910
Industry: Misc Unions; Health worker unions
Treasurer: HIETAMAKI, CAROLYN
FEC Committee ID: C00490375
(Look up actual documents filed at the FEC)

NOTE: This committee is a super PAC.


https://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/lookup2.php?strID=C00490375


Why are people trying to pretend otherwise?

Number23

(24,544 posts)
78. Did you post this info in that other thread? You know the one from a poster who never met a piece of
Fri Nov 20, 2015, 03:35 AM
Nov 2015

reality they didn't try to run away from or deny? This person thinks that because it's a super PAC for a respectable and worthy profession, that makes all of this a non-issue and that no one is being hypocritical.

It would be funny if it wasn't so incredibly stupid. And predictable.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
82. He's EVOLVING. Cut him some slack.
Fri Nov 20, 2015, 04:19 AM
Nov 2015

There's nothing wrong with doing that which is completely legal. This PAC is filling in a lot of expenditure gaps with regard to various media ad buys.

It was smart of him to drop the snark about SUPER PACs from his stump speech, though.

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