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Thu Nov 19, 2015, 01:07 PM

Sanders campaign 'honored' by $500K support from super-PAC

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/fundraising/260754-sanders-campaign-honored-by-500k-support-from-super-pac

The Bernie Sanders presidential campaign says it is “honored” to receive more than $500,000 in support from a nurses union super-PAC, saying the independent financial backing in no way contradicts the Vermont senator’s opposition to big-money politics.

“We are honored to have the support of National Nurses United,” said Sanders campaign manager Jeff Weaver, responding to a report by the Sunlight Foundation — a group that tracks money in politics — that reveals the super-PAC has already spent $569,000 helping Sanders this primary season.

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Reply Sanders campaign 'honored' by $500K support from super-PAC (Original post)
msrizzo Nov 2015 OP
moobu2 Nov 2015 #1
zalinda Nov 2015 #7
TM99 Nov 2015 #33
moobu2 Nov 2015 #35
JonLeibowitz Nov 2015 #56
BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #80
TM99 Nov 2015 #85
BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #87
TM99 Nov 2015 #88
TM99 Nov 2015 #59
BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #81
BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #79
JaneyVee Nov 2015 #18
riversedge Nov 2015 #24
AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #75
AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #76
artislife Nov 2015 #28
AgingAmerican Nov 2015 #74
BlueCaliDem Nov 2015 #83
PatrickforO Nov 2015 #58
aidbo Nov 2015 #77
sufrommich Nov 2015 #2
zalinda Nov 2015 #5
NCTraveler Nov 2015 #3
passiveporcupine Nov 2015 #72
Amimnoch Nov 2015 #4
zalinda Nov 2015 #9
Amimnoch Nov 2015 #11
Thinkingabout Nov 2015 #53
virtualobserver Nov 2015 #29
Hiraeth Nov 2015 #43
demwing Nov 2015 #47
DanTex Nov 2015 #6
zalinda Nov 2015 #8
DanTex Nov 2015 #10
Cali_Democrat Nov 2015 #41
LiberalLovinLug Nov 2015 #12
msrizzo Nov 2015 #13
Maedhros Nov 2015 #48
demwing Nov 2015 #14
arcane1 Nov 2015 #32
Cali_Democrat Nov 2015 #42
demwing Nov 2015 #44
Cali_Democrat Nov 2015 #45
Cali_Democrat Nov 2015 #36
Cali_Democrat Nov 2015 #37
LiberalLovinLug Nov 2015 #15
msrizzo Nov 2015 #25
demwing Nov 2015 #30
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Number23 Nov 2015 #50
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reformist2 Nov 2015 #46
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Response to msrizzo (Original post)

Thu Nov 19, 2015, 01:15 PM

1. What a 2 faced phony hypocrite.

I'm referring to Bernie Sanders if there's any confusion.

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Response to moobu2 (Reply #1)

Thu Nov 19, 2015, 02:26 PM

7. This is a none inclusive SuperPAC

which means only union members can contribute to it. So, basically it's a union supporting a candidate. The FEC declared it a Bernie SuperPAC, not the organization or the candidate.

Z

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Response to zalinda (Reply #7)

Thu Nov 19, 2015, 06:21 PM

33. Additionally

 

they can only donate a maximum amount and then that is all.

Plus all contributions are clearly identified.

They can not in any way, shape, or form work in conjunction with the campaign as they have Independent Expenditure status. Not all SuperPAC's do which is a mistake I keep seeing all morning even in a CNN article. IE status means that they are fully supporting one candidate or are working against one candidate. They are held to very strict guidelines as detailed above.

They are nothing like a Hybrid SuperPAC such as Correct the Record which is not only working in a gray area with online coordination directly with the Clinton campaign, but is also not transparent on where the donations are coming from and all going to.

This is a non-story but in typical Clinton/Rovian fashion it is being smeared out there like the bullshit it truly is.

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Response to TM99 (Reply #33)

Thu Nov 19, 2015, 06:24 PM

35. It's a SuperPAC Jeeez.

Just because they don't call it a SuperPAc doesn't mean it isn't a SuperPAC.

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Response to moobu2 (Reply #35)

Thu Nov 19, 2015, 07:30 PM

56. Actually, no.

If you have seen Colbert's exploration of the super PAC system the only thing you need to do is say your PAC is a superPAC (and write a one sentence letter to the FEC). Not doing that means you are NOT a SuperPAC

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Response to JonLeibowitz (Reply #56)

Fri Nov 20, 2015, 04:09 AM

80. Actually, yes. And there are other differences between a traditional PAC and a Super PAC

as you can read for yourself below:

A PAC, or political action committee, is a type of organization that collects campaign contributions from members and donates those funds to campaign for or against candidates, ballot initiatives or legislation.

An organization becomes a PAC when it receives or spends more than $2,600 to influence a federal election.

A Super PAC, also known as “independent-expenditure only committees” may not make contributions to candidate campaigns or parties, but may engage in unlimited political spending independently of the campaigns. Unlike PACs, Super PACs can raise funds without any legal limit on donation size.

http://www.iagreetosee.com/faq/what-is-the-difference-between-a-pac-and-a-super-pac/


Now the emergence of Super PACs has the potential to fundamentally alter the landscape of money in politics, and also represents a sharp departure from previous restrictions on financial contributions. That's because as of July 22, 2010, the FEC green-lighted Super PACs all but eliminating the previous financial donation limitations. Thanks to the FEC ruling, individuals, corporations and unions can now contribute unlimited cash to Super PACs, which essentially means there is no ceiling to how much money is injected into elections.
http://people.howstuffworks.com/super-pac1.htm


The NNUPP SuperPAC has another donor outside of the National Nurse's Union. That donor is a 527 group called Progressive Kick. Since I'm certain Progressive Kick is NOT a nurse or a member of the National Nurses United Union, it's false to claim that the National Nurses United for Patient Protection is merely a PAC and only receives money from union members. Progressive Kick is listed as a donor, too, which makes the National Nurses United a Super PAC.

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Response to BlueCaliDem (Reply #80)

Fri Nov 20, 2015, 05:45 AM

85. I am sorry but in your zeal to be right,

 

you are actually very wrong.

Instead of quoting www.iagreetosee.com, head over the actual FEC website where you will see that, no, not all SuperPAC's are independent expenditure only. The Nurses Union is, but Correct the Record for example is not. CtR is a Hybrid/SuperPAC and follows different rubrics and requirements.

So that is your first mistake.

The second one is your mis-reading of your own link. The 527 group Progressive Kick is NOT a donor. They were a recipient in 2012 of 1.5 million dollars.

That is your second mistake.

The Nurse Union does NOT get donations from anyone but its own union members. It is an Independent Expenditure SuperPAC which is very different from other SuperPAC's.

Read more carefully next time before patting yourself on the back for being wrong.

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Response to TM99 (Reply #85)

Fri Nov 20, 2015, 02:14 PM

87. In YOUR zeal to pat yourself on your back on how clever you are,

you, unlike me, failed to provide links to backup your claim. Like the link to the FEC website.

But even without it, I fully understand what kind of SuperPAC CtR is. But they are still considered a SuperPAC according to FEC regulations.

Thank you for proving me correct.

Thank you, also, for proving me correct that the National Nurses United is a SuperPAC, too. Much obliged.

As for my link to the Sunshine Foundation article by Josh Stewart that you claim I've misread, nowhere does it mention that Progressive Kick's donation was a refund. That's something you must've gotten from another post by another DUer on this subthread. So you're wrong. I didn't misread the article at my link. So I return the advice to you, TM99...read carefully before patting yourself on the back for being wrong.

To clarify this subthread's subject...by definition, an "independent expenditure only committee" (as my post highlights) IS a SuperPAC, but your fellow Sanders supporters were trying to make the case that it wasn't; that the National Nurses United SuperPAC is actually just a PAC. Thank you for proving me correct on this as well.

So go ahead and pat yourself on the back for being so indubitably wise as you agree with me and disagree with JonLeibowitz and passiveporcupine, both Sanders supporters, who are trying to make the case that Bernie's SuperPAC isn't a SuperPAC. They are wrong, you and I are correct.

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Response to BlueCaliDem (Reply #87)

Fri Nov 20, 2015, 03:13 PM

88. You know what I hate about Clinton supporters at DU?

 

The arrogant bullshit they spew on a constant basis.

I think you are quite smart enough to go to the FEC website yourself. As there are multiple pages detailing all of the differences between the types of SuperPAC's, you can read those yourself.

We are both right. In 2009, this union was simply a PAC. This year, they decided to endorse only one candidate. That made them a type of SuperPAC for this campaign season only.

And they are held to different rubrics than other types of SuperPAC like Correct the Record.

But you are still being so zealous and snarky that you are unwilling to recognize the differences and why comparing SuperPAC's that might as well be laundering money for Jeb Bush or Hillary Clinton are vastly different than this nurses union.

Bravo!

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Response to moobu2 (Reply #35)

Thu Nov 19, 2015, 08:28 PM

59. So if it is not a SuperPAC

 

then how can it be a SuperPAC?

Really, go to the FEC website. PAC's and SuperPAC's are not all alike. There are different designations for the different types according to how can contribute, how much can go to a campaign, etc.

The Nurses Union Limited Expenditure SuperPAC is NOT equal to the Correct the Record SuperPAC. To attempt to equate them with a semantic game that is not factually correct is why man of us Sanders supporters really despise the dirty fucking politics of Clinton and her supporters.

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Response to TM99 (Reply #59)

Fri Nov 20, 2015, 04:14 AM

81. It IS a SuperPAC. One of its donors is Progressive Kick, a 527 group.

With Progressive Kick as a donor, the National Nurses United PAC is not merely a traditional PAC but has become a SuperPAC.

I've outlined the differences between PACs and SuperPACs, in my post just above yours: http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=830718

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Response to zalinda (Reply #7)

Fri Nov 20, 2015, 03:52 AM

79. Not true. The NNUPP SuperPAC (and yes, it IS a Super PAC) has a 527 group as another donor

and they have nothing to do with the Nurse's Union, so it makes the NNYPP Super PAC a Super PAC, not just a PAC.

National Nurses United for Patient Protection is a super PAC whose primary donor is National Nurses United, a union of more than 185,000 registered nurses across all 50 states. The super PAC also has another donor from its filing earlier this year, a 527 group called Progressive Kick, which runs donor-matching programs for progressive causes.
http://sunlightfoundation.com/blog/2015/11/18/bernie-sanders-benefits-from-566000-in-super-pac-support-from-nurses-union/


Difference between a PAC and Super PAC:

A PAC, or political action committee, is a type of organization that collects campaign contributions from members and donates those funds to campaign for or against candidates, ballot initiatives or legislation.

An organization becomes a PAC when it receives or spends more than $2,600 to influence a federal election.

A Super PAC, also known as “independent-expenditure only committees” may not make contributions to candidate campaigns or parties, but may engage in unlimited political spending independently of the campaigns. Unlike PACs, Super PACs can raise funds without any legal limit on donation size.
http://www.iagreetosee.com/faq/what-is-the-difference-between-a-pac-and-a-super-pac/

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Response to moobu2 (Reply #1)

Thu Nov 19, 2015, 04:39 PM

18. As long as he drops his false talking point now.

 

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Response to JaneyVee (Reply #18)

Thu Nov 19, 2015, 05:47 PM

24. Sanders' speech has so far been pulled from his stump: Billionaires, super PACs, fall of the middle

seems nope!

Dan Merica ‏@danmericaCNN 2h2 hours ago

Aside from the FDR lines, Dan Merica ‏@danmericaCNN 2h2 hours ago

Aside from the FDR lines, much of Sanders' speech has so far been pulled from his stump: Billionaires, super PACs, fall of the middle class.

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Response to riversedge (Reply #24)

Fri Nov 20, 2015, 03:17 AM

75. Horse pucky

 

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Response to JaneyVee (Reply #18)

Thu Nov 19, 2015, 06:05 PM

28. This explains a lot

 

I will be gentler with my thoughts about you. Realizing now that the difference is not apparent to you clears up a lot.

May you have a gentle life with plenty of support.

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Response to JaneyVee (Reply #18)

Fri Nov 20, 2015, 03:15 AM

74. IT isn't a superPAC

 

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Response to AgingAmerican (Reply #74)

Fri Nov 20, 2015, 04:29 AM

83. Wrong. It's a SuperPAC. It has a 527 group called the Progressive Kick listed as one of its donors.

The 527 group, Progressive Kick is NOT a nurse nor a member of the nurses' union. And only SuperPACs are allowed to accept donations from, among other types of donors, outside organizations. PACs cannot.

Also...

Currently, super PACs only have to file reports with the FEC every six months in off years. This increases to quarterly or monthly during the election year. Following these types of expenditures, which are generally reported to the FEC within 48 hours, is one of the ways Sunlight tracks the flow of money out of super PACs and other outside groups.
http://realtime.influenceexplorer.com/outside-spending/#?ordering=-expenditure_date_formatted&filer_committee_id_number=C00490375

The National Nurses United has been filing monthly, as Super PACs have to do. That makes it a SuperPAC.

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Response to moobu2 (Reply #1)

Thu Nov 19, 2015, 07:35 PM

58. It's a union.

It represents workers.

Giving Bernie money.

Not Wall Street oligarchs.

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Response to moobu2 (Reply #1)

Fri Nov 20, 2015, 03:30 AM

77. Speck vs. plank

 

First remove the plank from your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.

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Response to msrizzo (Original post)

Thu Nov 19, 2015, 01:18 PM

2. What did they spend $569,000 on?

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Response to sufrommich (Reply #2)

Thu Nov 19, 2015, 02:24 PM

5. Apparently mostly printing fees

The have been printing handouts, lots of them according to sources.

Z

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Response to msrizzo (Original post)

Thu Nov 19, 2015, 01:18 PM

3. While it is a clear display of hypocrisy.

 

I would be honored as well. As I said yesterday I don't begrudge Clinton for running away with union support. Simple fact. It isn't which party these unions will endorse, its which democrat. That is awesome.

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Response to NCTraveler (Reply #3)

Fri Nov 20, 2015, 02:30 AM

72. No, it's not hypocrisy

Because it is not a real Super Pac.

Here's what sets it apart from the presidential superPACs.

First, its donor list. The other superPACs are financed largely by millionaires. As for the NNU committee, "It's funded exclusively by our members," said Michael Lighty, the union's public policy director.

Technically, the PAC dates back to 2009, when independent expenditures were legal but the legal concept of superPACs did not yet exist. In the 2014 elections, Federal Election Commission records show, the nurses PAC spent $2.3 million, and was entirely funded by the union itself.


Then he (Jeff Weaver) drew a line between the NNU PAC and the presidential superPACS. "We have not started a superPAC, are not coordinating with a superPAC, and we have not fundraised for a superPAC," he said. "We stand by our position that we do not want the help of a superPAC."


This is union members (workers), not big money from corporate CEO's or owners. This money is coming from individuals like you and me. They are just doing it through their union. Yes, unions can come up with big donations, but it's all from little people like us.

from wiki
Before Super PACs became "super," they were just PACs, or Political Action Committees. The groups could support a candidate or a cause, but were heavily regulated under the terms of campaign finance law. Individuals were allowed to give $2,500 -- no more -- and corporations and unions were strictly forbidden from making donations.


How many union workers (not management or CEO's or Presidents or Owners of Corporations) who can contribute $2500 to a presidential campaign? The big Super Pacs Bernie is talking about have unlimited donations coming from the top people involved in big corporations, some of whom can donate millions each, now hidden in a super pac.

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Response to msrizzo (Original post)

Thu Nov 19, 2015, 02:11 PM

4. Oh no Mr. Sanders.. the "honor" is all ours.

 

My my my.. how I do love the smell of hypocrisy in the morning.

No shame at all in actually accepting support from legal sources imho. Doing so, either while or after spending so much time criticizing others for the same..

Miranda says: "Not very presidential"

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Response to Amimnoch (Reply #4)

Thu Nov 19, 2015, 02:29 PM

9. Just yours.

It's a union, only union members can contribute, unlike Hillary's superPACs.

Z

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Response to zalinda (Reply #9)

Thu Nov 19, 2015, 02:32 PM

11. Beautiful deconstruction and

 

a most wonderous attempt at Faulty Causation Fallacy

The golf-clap is strong here.

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Response to zalinda (Reply #9)

Thu Nov 19, 2015, 07:14 PM

53. When Hillary receives money from employees of corporations, it is said she is getting the money from

Wall Street. Now I see you say the donations Sanders gets is from members, do you see a problem here? Either get it one way or the other.

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Response to Amimnoch (Reply #4)

Thu Nov 19, 2015, 06:05 PM

29. the nurse oligarchs vs Hillary and Wall St

 

it must be embarrassing to be a Hillary supporter

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Response to virtualobserver (Reply #29)

Thu Nov 19, 2015, 06:34 PM

43. I am not sure they have enough intelligence to understand they should be embarrassed.

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Response to Amimnoch (Reply #4)

Thu Nov 19, 2015, 06:40 PM

47. That "smell of hypocrisy in the morning" is likely self inflicted

 

it's morning breath from swallowing a nonsense OP.

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Response to msrizzo (Original post)

Thu Nov 19, 2015, 02:26 PM

6. Interesting. He's "honored" to receive support that he claims that he doesn't want.

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Response to DanTex (Reply #6)

Thu Nov 19, 2015, 02:28 PM

8. It's from a union.

But then you know that.

Hillary is really worried, isn't she? Or is it her supporters?

Z

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Response to zalinda (Reply #8)

Thu Nov 19, 2015, 02:29 PM

10. Does that mean he wants it now? Or does he still not want it.

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Response to zalinda (Reply #8)

Thu Nov 19, 2015, 06:32 PM

41. Their affiliated Super PAC is helping Bernie:

 

<...>

National Nurses United endorsed Sanders on Aug. 11, and to date the group's affiliated super PAC has spent a little more than $569,000 in support of him. The spending ranges from print and online ads to printing materials, with significant buys in key states like Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina and Nevada. As of the last super PAC filing on June 30, the group had about $250,000 cash on hand.

National Nurses United for Patient Protection is a super PAC whose primary donor is National Nurses United, a union of more than 185,000 registered nurses across all 50 states. The super PAC also has another donor from its filing earlier this year, a 527 group called Progressive Kick, which runs donor-matching programs for progressive causes.

Using our Real-Time Federal Campaign Finance tracker, we were able to search all of the group's independent expenditures filed with the Federal Election Commission.

Read more:

http://sunlightfoundation.com/blog/2015/11/18/bernie-sanders-benefits-from-566000-in-super-pac-support-from-nurses-union/

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Response to msrizzo (Original post)

Thu Nov 19, 2015, 03:01 PM

12. lol to see Hillary supporters 'concerned' about a nurse "superpac"

After her gluttonous appetite for Wall Street millions.

http://www.npr.org/2015/11/19/456560662/superpac-or-not-this-group-has-money-to-bern-for-sanders

First, its donor list. The other superPACs are financed largely by millionaires. As for the NNU committee, "It's funded exclusively by our members," said Michael Lighty, the union's public policy director.

Technically, the PAC dates back to 2009, when independent expenditures were legal but the legal concept of superPACs did not yet exist. In the 2014 elections, Federal Election Commission records show, the nurses PAC spent $2.3 million, and was entirely funded by the union itself. There's only one disclosure report for this year, through June 30; the PAC reported getting no contributions at all.


This so-called Superpac existed before the legal concept was established. It was not solely created to help Sanders but to push Single Payer and other health initiatives. You righteous Hillary defenders do understand the difference between members of unions, and large financial corporations don't you?

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Response to LiberalLovinLug (Reply #12)

Thu Nov 19, 2015, 03:15 PM

13. Who's concerned?

We're just amused.

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Response to msrizzo (Reply #13)

Thu Nov 19, 2015, 06:42 PM

48. Yes, to people who are incapable of discerning the difference between Wall Street

 

and nurse's unions, it might appear amusing.

But then, Hillary supporters have any number of blinds spots when it comes to their candidate, so it's not much of a surprise.

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Response to msrizzo (Original post)

Thu Nov 19, 2015, 03:24 PM

14. You know the NNU is not a SuperPAC, right?

 

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Response to demwing (Reply #14)

Thu Nov 19, 2015, 06:19 PM

32. You're ruining a perfectly good dishonest smear.

 

Just kidding, it's a lame one

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Response to arcane1 (Reply #32)

Thu Nov 19, 2015, 06:33 PM

42. Their affiliated Super PAC is helping Bernie:

 

<...>

National Nurses United endorsed Sanders on Aug. 11, and to date the group's affiliated super PAC has spent a little more than $569,000 in support of him. The spending ranges from print and online ads to printing materials, with significant buys in key states like Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina and Nevada. As of the last super PAC filing on June 30, the group had about $250,000 cash on hand.

National Nurses United for Patient Protection is a super PAC whose primary donor is National Nurses United, a union of more than 185,000 registered nurses across all 50 states. The super PAC also has another donor from its filing earlier this year, a 527 group called Progressive Kick, which runs donor-matching programs for progressive causes.

Using our Real-Time Federal Campaign Finance tracker, we were able to search all of the group's independent expenditures filed with the Federal Election Commission.

Read more:

http://sunlightfoundation.com/blog/2015/11/18/bernie-sanders-benefits-from-566000-in-super-pac-support-from-nurses-union/

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Response to arcane1 (Reply #32)

Thu Nov 19, 2015, 06:34 PM

44. I shouldn't bite

 

The chance that the OP is just confused is somewhere between "No" and "Hell No"

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Response to demwing (Reply #44)

Thu Nov 19, 2015, 06:36 PM

45. Their affiliated Super PAC is helping Bernie:

 

<...>

National Nurses United endorsed Sanders on Aug. 11, and to date the group's affiliated super PAC has spent a little more than $569,000 in support of him. The spending ranges from print and online ads to printing materials, with significant buys in key states like Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina and Nevada. As of the last super PAC filing on June 30, the group had about $250,000 cash on hand.

National Nurses United for Patient Protection is a super PAC whose primary donor is National Nurses United, a union of more than 185,000 registered nurses across all 50 states. The super PAC also has another donor from its filing earlier this year, a 527 group called Progressive Kick, which runs donor-matching programs for progressive causes.

Using our Real-Time Federal Campaign Finance tracker, we were able to search all of the group's independent expenditures filed with the Federal Election Commission.

Read more:

http://sunlightfoundation.com/blog/2015/11/18/bernie-sanders-benefits-from-566000-in-super-pac-support-from-nurses-union/

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Response to demwing (Reply #14)

Thu Nov 19, 2015, 06:30 PM

36. They have an affiliated Super PAC

 

<...>

National Nurses United endorsed Sanders on Aug. 11, and to date the group's affiliated super PAC has spent a little more than $569,000 in support of him. The spending ranges from print and online ads to printing materials, with significant buys in key states like Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina and Nevada. As of the last super PAC filing on June 30, the group had about $250,000 cash on hand.

National Nurses United for Patient Protection is a super PAC whose primary donor is National Nurses United, a union of more than 185,000 registered nurses across all 50 states. The super PAC also has another donor from its filing earlier this year, a 527 group called Progressive Kick, which runs donor-matching programs for progressive causes.

Using our Real-Time Federal Campaign Finance tracker, we were able to search all of the group's independent expenditures filed with the Federal Election Commission.

Read more:

http://sunlightfoundation.com/blog/2015/11/18/bernie-sanders-benefits-from-566000-in-super-pac-support-from-nurses-union/

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Response to msrizzo (Original post)

Thu Nov 19, 2015, 03:26 PM

15. "concerned" ie. concern troll

I'll never be surprised at what Hillary supporters find amusing.

Hillary supporters standing behind a candidate with her Gucci purse stuffed to overflowing with Wall Street criminals money, pointing and laughing at the other candidate that gets a donation from a national union, with full backing from its members, (unlike the teachers union) without asking for it.

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Response to LiberalLovinLug (Reply #15)

Thu Nov 19, 2015, 06:01 PM

25. I'm neither concerned nor a troll.

Sorry that you are all worked up about me and people like me. I'm going to block you and I think you should block me too so you can save yourself the trouble of knowing what I think.

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Response to msrizzo (Reply #25)

Thu Nov 19, 2015, 06:09 PM

30. But what you think is wrong

 

Last edited Thu Nov 19, 2015, 10:43 PM - Edit history (1)

NNU is not a super PAC.

Correct it, delete it, eat it, I don't care.

But when someone continues to repeat something that's been proved untrue, the error expands from ignorance to dishonesty.

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Response to demwing (Reply #30)

Thu Nov 19, 2015, 06:31 PM

40. They have an affiliated Super PAC

 

<...>

National Nurses United endorsed Sanders on Aug. 11, and to date the group's affiliated super PAC has spent a little more than $569,000 in support of him. The spending ranges from print and online ads to printing materials, with significant buys in key states like Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina and Nevada. As of the last super PAC filing on June 30, the group had about $250,000 cash on hand.

National Nurses United for Patient Protection is a super PAC whose primary donor is National Nurses United, a union of more than 185,000 registered nurses across all 50 states. The super PAC also has another donor from its filing earlier this year, a 527 group called Progressive Kick, which runs donor-matching programs for progressive causes.

Using our Real-Time Federal Campaign Finance tracker, we were able to search all of the group's independent expenditures filed with the Federal Election Commission.

Read more:

http://sunlightfoundation.com/blog/2015/11/18/bernie-sanders-benefits-from-566000-in-super-pac-support-from-nurses-union/

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Response to Cali_Democrat (Reply #40)

Thu Nov 19, 2015, 07:05 PM

50. Posted multiple times in this thread. Number of responses to it: Zero.

How very interesting.

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Response to Number23 (Reply #50)

Thu Nov 19, 2015, 08:55 PM

61. Still zero

 

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Response to msrizzo (Reply #25)

Thu Nov 19, 2015, 06:43 PM

49. Do you people feel shame when you willfully mislead? [n/t]

 

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Response to LiberalLovinLug (Reply #15)

Thu Nov 19, 2015, 07:10 PM

52. jury results

On Thu Nov 19, 2015, 02:47 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

"concerned" ie. concern troll
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=828761

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

Calling another DUer a "concern troll" is a hurtful and over-the-top personal attack.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Thu Nov 19, 2015, 02:51 PM, and the Jury voted 1-6 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Meh
Juror #2 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Par for the course in this forum.
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Refute it with facts. Not hideworthy.

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the future.

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Response to restorefreedom (Reply #52)

Fri Nov 20, 2015, 04:40 AM

84. Oh jeez

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Response to msrizzo (Original post)

Thu Nov 19, 2015, 03:26 PM

16. Maybe its the "gold standard" of Super-Pacs?

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Response to msrizzo (Original post)

Thu Nov 19, 2015, 04:34 PM

17. Things that make you go hmmm?

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Response to msrizzo (Original post)

Thu Nov 19, 2015, 04:45 PM

19. Thanks to CU and our right wing SCOTUS, it's the way our elections are funded.

Congrats to Mr. Sanders for finally accepting the inevitable.

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Response to msrizzo (Original post)

Thu Nov 19, 2015, 04:47 PM

20. As they should be! Go Nurses and Bernie!

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Response to msrizzo (Original post)

Thu Nov 19, 2015, 05:07 PM

21. Well, money is money.

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Response to riversedge (Reply #21)

Thu Nov 19, 2015, 05:24 PM

22. a super PAC by any other name...

 

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Response to msrizzo (Original post)

Thu Nov 19, 2015, 05:42 PM

23. He should return this money! He promised not to

do this, and this is a dishonorable breach of the sacredness of his vows. He can never be trusted again. His whole platform is now turned asunder. His supporters should demand this be returned forthwith. I expect purity protests soon! They must be outraged!

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Response to msrizzo (Original post)

Thu Nov 19, 2015, 06:02 PM

26. I see he now loves Superpacs? Wow. What a trip.

 

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Response to bravenak (Reply #26)

Thu Nov 19, 2015, 06:14 PM

31. NNU is not a superpac

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Response to JonLeibowitz (Reply #31)

Thu Nov 19, 2015, 06:21 PM

34. And?

 

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Response to bravenak (Reply #34)

Thu Nov 19, 2015, 10:05 PM

62. So your post was incorrect and i was pointing out the innaccuracy.

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Response to JonLeibowitz (Reply #62)

Thu Nov 19, 2015, 10:11 PM

63. My post was fine

 

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Response to bravenak (Reply #63)

Thu Nov 19, 2015, 10:13 PM

64. If the NNU does not have a superPAC it most certainly was not fine.

Have a nice evening.

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Response to bravenak (Reply #65)

Thu Nov 19, 2015, 10:32 PM

66. Interesting. I may have misread the NPR piece but i think it implies it is not a superPAC

Not sure what to believe and will do more digging later when i get home. One thing that makes me think it is not a superPAC is that they existed in this form before citizens United so i don't see how it is a superpac. More digging would be needed, happy to chat more.

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Response to JonLeibowitz (Reply #66)

Thu Nov 19, 2015, 10:34 PM

67. Okay. I will look too. I'll let you know if I find something else.

 

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Response to JonLeibowitz (Reply #31)

Thu Nov 19, 2015, 06:30 PM

39. They have an affiliated Super PAC

 

<...>

National Nurses United endorsed Sanders on Aug. 11, and to date the group's affiliated super PAC has spent a little more than $569,000 in support of him. The spending ranges from print and online ads to printing materials, with significant buys in key states like Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina and Nevada. As of the last super PAC filing on June 30, the group had about $250,000 cash on hand.

National Nurses United for Patient Protection is a super PAC whose primary donor is National Nurses United, a union of more than 185,000 registered nurses across all 50 states. The super PAC also has another donor from its filing earlier this year, a 527 group called Progressive Kick, which runs donor-matching programs for progressive causes.

Using our Real-Time Federal Campaign Finance tracker, we were able to search all of the group's independent expenditures filed with the Federal Election Commission.

Read more:

http://sunlightfoundation.com/blog/2015/11/18/bernie-sanders-benefits-from-566000-in-super-pac-support-from-nurses-union/

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Response to msrizzo (Original post)

Thu Nov 19, 2015, 06:04 PM

27. NNU is NOT a superPAC

 

don't embarrass yourselves

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Response to demwing (Reply #27)

Thu Nov 19, 2015, 06:30 PM

38. They have an affiliated Super PAC

 

<...>

National Nurses United endorsed Sanders on Aug. 11, and to date the group's affiliated super PAC has spent a little more than $569,000 in support of him. The spending ranges from print and online ads to printing materials, with significant buys in key states like Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina and Nevada. As of the last super PAC filing on June 30, the group had about $250,000 cash on hand.

National Nurses United for Patient Protection is a super PAC whose primary donor is National Nurses United, a union of more than 185,000 registered nurses across all 50 states. The super PAC also has another donor from its filing earlier this year, a 527 group called Progressive Kick, which runs donor-matching programs for progressive causes.

Using our Real-Time Federal Campaign Finance tracker, we were able to search all of the group's independent expenditures filed with the Federal Election Commission.

Read more:

http://sunlightfoundation.com/blog/2015/11/18/bernie-sanders-benefits-from-566000-in-super-pac-support-from-nurses-union/

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Response to msrizzo (Original post)

Thu Nov 19, 2015, 06:37 PM

46. Knowing Bernie is taking the high road, Hillary's supporters try to drag him down.


It's not a pretty sight, watching them try to make themselves feel better about Hillary's millions by pretending that Bernie is even partly guilty of what Hillary is doing.

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Response to msrizzo (Original post)

Thu Nov 19, 2015, 07:09 PM

51. I thought those were the root of all evil?

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Response to msrizzo (Original post)

Thu Nov 19, 2015, 07:27 PM

55. This distinction makes no sense

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Response to msrizzo (Original post)

Thu Nov 19, 2015, 07:34 PM

57. That's a union. Bernie 100% has workers' backs 365/24/7, and he welcomes

financial support from unions.

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Response to msrizzo (Original post)

Thu Nov 19, 2015, 08:31 PM

60. Nobody cares. The Nurses are fighting for health care for all. See the difference?

 

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Response to msrizzo (Original post)

Thu Nov 19, 2015, 10:43 PM

68. Sanders drops line attacking super PACs from speech after super PAC backs him Read more: http://www

Sanders drops line attacking super PACs from speech after super PAC backs him Read more: http://wwwhttp://www.politico.com/story/2015/11/bernie-sanders-drops-super-pacs-attack-216088

Bernie Sanders’ disapproval of super PACs is a stand-by theme in his stump speech, and it’s a concept that was included in the prepared remarks of his much-anticipated speech on democratic socialism on Thursday.

But the pre-written line went missing on Thursday, as Sanders — with two TelePrompTers standing before him — skipped straight from a passage about mandatory voter registration to a line-by-line explanation of the differences between his own ideology and the socialism people commonly think of.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/11/bernie-sanders-drops-super-pacs-attack-216088#ixzz3rznmLdr5

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Response to msrizzo (Reply #68)

Fri Nov 20, 2015, 03:09 AM

73. Oh Goodie.. bernie's "evolved"! "Public admission by Omission.." as a friend of mine said.

Thank you msrizzo~

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Response to msrizzo (Reply #68)

Fri Nov 20, 2015, 11:32 AM

86. I saw that. I don't fault him for taking the $

But it wouldn't hurt for him to explain how cash is needed in nat'l politics given the current system. I support changes but not surrender, and I stand right up and cheer when HRC advocates the demise of CU, up to and including a Constitutional amendment.

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Response to msrizzo (Reply #68)

Fri Nov 20, 2015, 07:15 PM

89. Ding!!! Ding!! Ding!! You shoot, you score!! Nice find. Nice post. nt

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Response to msrizzo (Original post)

Thu Nov 19, 2015, 11:05 PM

69. Phony...

Eom

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Response to msrizzo (Original post)

Thu Nov 19, 2015, 11:24 PM

70. Union money = money from many many union members workers.

Corporate = money from a business that is interested in the bottom line - profits.

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Response to msrizzo (Original post)

Thu Nov 19, 2015, 11:59 PM

71. Open Secrets says they're a Super Pac...

Official PAC Name:
NATIONAL NURSES UNITED FOR PATIENT PROTECTION
Location: SILVER SPRING, MD 20910
Industry: Misc Unions; Health worker unions
Treasurer: HIETAMAKI, CAROLYN
FEC Committee ID: C00490375
(Look up actual documents filed at the FEC)

NOTE: This committee is a super PAC.


https://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/lookup2.php?strID=C00490375


Why are people trying to pretend otherwise?

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Response to BklnDem75 (Reply #71)

Fri Nov 20, 2015, 03:35 AM

78. Did you post this info in that other thread? You know the one from a poster who never met a piece of

reality they didn't try to run away from or deny? This person thinks that because it's a super PAC for a respectable and worthy profession, that makes all of this a non-issue and that no one is being hypocritical.

It would be funny if it wasn't so incredibly stupid. And predictable.

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Response to msrizzo (Original post)

Fri Nov 20, 2015, 04:19 AM

82. He's EVOLVING. Cut him some slack.

There's nothing wrong with doing that which is completely legal. This PAC is filling in a lot of expenditure gaps with regard to various media ad buys.

It was smart of him to drop the snark about SUPER PACs from his stump speech, though.

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Response to msrizzo (Original post)

Sat Nov 21, 2015, 03:31 AM

90. Yeah, he was whinging about it until this happened. Now, he's cut it from his stumper.

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