2016 Postmortem
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The Hill: "Sanders ahead of Clinton in New Hampshire poll":Sanders garners 45 percent support, to 44 percent for Clinton. ... Sanders has a much more comfortable lead among young people in the Granite State poll, carrying the under-45 vote with 59 percent, to 30 percent for Clinton.
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Jackilope
(819 posts)Agschmid
(28,749 posts)It's going to be won on the margin by whomever is the winner.
Get to work if you live in/near that state if you want your candidate to win.
Jarqui
(10,131 posts)then we have a horse race!
I think Iowa is where this could get decided. To avoid an early knock out, if Sanders supporters are going to volunteer, that's where I'd try to help.
demwing
(16,916 posts)A NH win would bolster him in IA, but an IA loss will put significant pressure on the NH outcome.
Bernie needs both but can work with 1. If Bernie has to lose one (he doesn't...), I would ask the gods to deliver IA, and let NH fall.
And then for Jessie Jackson to endorse in the month before SC.
DCBob
(24,689 posts)BlueCheese
(2,522 posts)But I think their polling plays it straight.
Samantha
(9,314 posts)He said he was going to focus first on Iowa and New Hampshire. After a certain point, he said he was starting to gear up for super-Tuesday. I think one of the two, he will be be doing super well.
Sam
Happenstance24
(193 posts)Even if Bernie has retaken the lead, does that really help him out though? Bernie needs to win IA and NH BIG to have a chance, am I right? If he eeks out a 2 point win in both states it isn't gonna do jack for him down the line. The whole point of winning these states is to gather momentum and prove Hillary is beatable. A 2 point win in the whitest states in the country won't do much for him. Bernie needs a BIG win to change the conversation IMO.
Attorney in Texas
(3,373 posts)error is enough. Between now and the NH primary, Sanders and Clinton and O'Malley will all go up and they will all go down.
Codeine
(25,586 posts)then he will almost certainly take the state with relative ease.
Sanders supporters are a bit delusional to think that their youth vote margin (which I will grant them doesn't show up in likely voter polls) will make up for the 20%+ gap that we are seeing in so many states but it would certainly be enough to pull out a comfortable win in a situation like we see in NH.
And a good showing in NH could have positive follow-on benefits, assuming his inevitable crushing defeat in SC doesn't kill any perceived momentum.
BlueCheese
(2,522 posts)A breath of fresh air. Thanks, OP.
Dem2
(8,168 posts)So, neither new or newer, I don't like click-bait - this is not a new poll.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)And provide a bump of at least 10-15 points.
Codeine
(25,586 posts)Wildly optimistic, even -- and that from a Clinton supporter.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)Not optimistic. History and empirical analysis.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/nh/new_hampshire_democratic_primary-194.html#polls
And had Obama not made the "You're likeable enough" comment, he would have won NH by 5 points or so.
Codeine
(25,586 posts)Perhaps I'm just overestimating how settled everyone is at this point.
book_worm
(15,951 posts)firebrand80
(2,760 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,718 posts)By as much as 22% at one time:
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2016/president/nh/new_hampshire_democratic_presidential_primary-3351.html
DCBob
(24,689 posts)NH should have been an easy win for Bernie.
Attorney in Texas
(3,373 posts)crave does her campaign no good in the long run.
DCBob
(24,689 posts)The rest of the states with recent polling all trending substantially towards Hillary.
Attorney in Texas
(3,373 posts)because the outcome in Iowa and New Hampshire has historically affected the subsequent primaries.
Clinton is the favorite and Sanders is the underdog, but the pathway for a Sanders victory requires two things:
1. a Sanders win in Iowa or New Hampshire;
2. overconfidence plus a sense of entitlement on the part of the Clinton campaign as was her downfall in 2007-2008.
I think the Sanders campaign has got goal number one, but we may need your help with goal number two.
DCBob
(24,689 posts)Therefore your number 1 is unlikely and your number 2 is a complete fantasy.
See latest Iowa Huffington Post/Pollster chart below in case you may not have seen it. Your comments seem to indicate that you may not be aware Hillary is well ahead there now.