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Attorney in Texas

(3,373 posts)
Sat Nov 21, 2015, 04:26 PM Nov 2015

More Critical Newer New Hampshire State Poll - Sanders 45%, Clinton 44%

The Hill: "Sanders ahead of Clinton in New Hampshire poll":

Sanders garners 45 percent support, to 44 percent for Clinton. ... Sanders has a much more comfortable lead among young people in the Granite State poll, carrying the under-45 vote with 59 percent, to 30 percent for Clinton.

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More Critical Newer New Hampshire State Poll - Sanders 45%, Clinton 44% (Original Post) Attorney in Texas Nov 2015 OP
Go, Bernie, Go!!!!!! :-) eom Jackilope Nov 2015 #1
NH is a tight race that's for sure. Agschmid Nov 2015 #2
If Bernie can claw his way back in Iowa, Jarqui Nov 2015 #3
IA happens at least a week before NH demwing Nov 2015 #4
Faux Newz poll DCBob Nov 2015 #5
FOX News is terrible, of course. BlueCheese Nov 2015 #10
And this is exactly why the attacks against him have racheted up Samantha Nov 2015 #6
Is it enough to skate by? Happenstance24 Nov 2015 #7
Polls this far our are just a report card. It is too early to ask if a lead within the margin of Attorney in Texas Nov 2015 #8
Good news for Sanders. If he keeps this "poll position" Codeine Nov 2015 #11
Flattering pictures of both candidates? BlueCheese Nov 2015 #9
Huffpo polling tracker hasn't been updated for 3 days Dem2 Nov 2015 #12
All she needs to do is stay within a few points of him in NH. Her Iowa win will carry over into NH stevenleser Nov 2015 #13
10-15 points seems. . . optimistic. Codeine Nov 2015 #14
Nope, in 2008, Obama's win in Iowa made NH 10-15 points closer than it had been polling. stevenleser Nov 2015 #15
Things seemed more volatile then. Codeine Nov 2015 #16
Wasn't Bernie at one time up by more than one-point in NH? book_worm Nov 2015 #17
Yes, the NH polls have tightened firebrand80 Nov 2015 #18
Yes DemocratSinceBirth Nov 2015 #20
The fact this is so close is good news for Hillary. DCBob Nov 2015 #19
A close race is generally good for Clinton. The "coronation" some of her short-sighted supporters Attorney in Texas Nov 2015 #21
I was just referring to NH. DCBob Nov 2015 #22
It will be close in New Hampshire and in Iowa and the later primaries cannot be accurately predicted Attorney in Texas Nov 2015 #23
Iowa doesnt appear to be close.. unless the polls are totally wrong. DCBob Nov 2015 #24

Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
2. NH is a tight race that's for sure.
Sat Nov 21, 2015, 04:50 PM
Nov 2015

It's going to be won on the margin by whomever is the winner.

Get to work if you live in/near that state if you want your candidate to win.

Jarqui

(10,131 posts)
3. If Bernie can claw his way back in Iowa,
Sat Nov 21, 2015, 05:05 PM
Nov 2015

then we have a horse race!

I think Iowa is where this could get decided. To avoid an early knock out, if Sanders supporters are going to volunteer, that's where I'd try to help.

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
4. IA happens at least a week before NH
Sat Nov 21, 2015, 05:29 PM
Nov 2015

A NH win would bolster him in IA, but an IA loss will put significant pressure on the NH outcome.

Bernie needs both but can work with 1. If Bernie has to lose one (he doesn't...), I would ask the gods to deliver IA, and let NH fall.

And then for Jessie Jackson to endorse in the month before SC.

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
6. And this is exactly why the attacks against him have racheted up
Sat Nov 21, 2015, 08:02 PM
Nov 2015

He said he was going to focus first on Iowa and New Hampshire. After a certain point, he said he was starting to gear up for super-Tuesday. I think one of the two, he will be be doing super well.

Sam

Happenstance24

(193 posts)
7. Is it enough to skate by?
Sat Nov 21, 2015, 09:08 PM
Nov 2015

Even if Bernie has retaken the lead, does that really help him out though? Bernie needs to win IA and NH BIG to have a chance, am I right? If he eeks out a 2 point win in both states it isn't gonna do jack for him down the line. The whole point of winning these states is to gather momentum and prove Hillary is beatable. A 2 point win in the whitest states in the country won't do much for him. Bernie needs a BIG win to change the conversation IMO.

Attorney in Texas

(3,373 posts)
8. Polls this far our are just a report card. It is too early to ask if a lead within the margin of
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 01:07 PM
Nov 2015

error is enough. Between now and the NH primary, Sanders and Clinton and O'Malley will all go up and they will all go down.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
11. Good news for Sanders. If he keeps this "poll position"
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 01:21 PM
Nov 2015

then he will almost certainly take the state with relative ease.

Sanders supporters are a bit delusional to think that their youth vote margin (which I will grant them doesn't show up in likely voter polls) will make up for the 20%+ gap that we are seeing in so many states but it would certainly be enough to pull out a comfortable win in a situation like we see in NH.

And a good showing in NH could have positive follow-on benefits, assuming his inevitable crushing defeat in SC doesn't kill any perceived momentum.

Dem2

(8,168 posts)
12. Huffpo polling tracker hasn't been updated for 3 days
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 01:24 PM
Nov 2015

So, neither new or newer, I don't like click-bait - this is not a new poll.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
13. All she needs to do is stay within a few points of him in NH. Her Iowa win will carry over into NH
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 02:05 PM
Nov 2015

And provide a bump of at least 10-15 points.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
14. 10-15 points seems. . . optimistic.
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 02:10 PM
Nov 2015

Wildly optimistic, even -- and that from a Clinton supporter.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
15. Nope, in 2008, Obama's win in Iowa made NH 10-15 points closer than it had been polling.
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 02:13 PM
Nov 2015

Not optimistic. History and empirical analysis.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2008/president/nh/new_hampshire_democratic_primary-194.html#polls

And had Obama not made the "You're likeable enough" comment, he would have won NH by 5 points or so.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
16. Things seemed more volatile then.
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 02:15 PM
Nov 2015

Perhaps I'm just overestimating how settled everyone is at this point.

Attorney in Texas

(3,373 posts)
21. A close race is generally good for Clinton. The "coronation" some of her short-sighted supporters
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 06:28 PM
Nov 2015

crave does her campaign no good in the long run.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
22. I was just referring to NH.
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 06:31 PM
Nov 2015

The rest of the states with recent polling all trending substantially towards Hillary.

Attorney in Texas

(3,373 posts)
23. It will be close in New Hampshire and in Iowa and the later primaries cannot be accurately predicted
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 06:39 PM
Nov 2015

because the outcome in Iowa and New Hampshire has historically affected the subsequent primaries.

Clinton is the favorite and Sanders is the underdog, but the pathway for a Sanders victory requires two things:

1. a Sanders win in Iowa or New Hampshire;

2. overconfidence plus a sense of entitlement on the part of the Clinton campaign as was her downfall in 2007-2008.

I think the Sanders campaign has got goal number one, but we may need your help with goal number two.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
24. Iowa doesnt appear to be close.. unless the polls are totally wrong.
Sun Nov 22, 2015, 07:34 PM
Nov 2015

Therefore your number 1 is unlikely and your number 2 is a complete fantasy.

See latest Iowa Huffington Post/Pollster chart below in case you may not have seen it. Your comments seem to indicate that you may not be aware Hillary is well ahead there now.

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