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Mon Nov 23, 2015, 01:24 PM

Reader Poll for 2016...Does This Surprise You?

Who do a bunch of politically savvy readers think will secure the Democratic and Republican nominations in 2016, and who will win between them? it might surprise you, it might not....
http://www.borntorunthenumbers.com/2015/11/annual-reader-poll-on-projected-2016.html

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Response to tgards79 (Original post)

Mon Nov 23, 2015, 01:27 PM

1. She wins with 100% of the vote? Give me a break.

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Response to Fearless (Reply #1)

Mon Nov 23, 2015, 02:10 PM

3. HMMM??

 

No Bernie in there at all, wonder why...

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Response to Old Codger (Reply #3)

Mon Nov 23, 2015, 02:20 PM

7. Because the readers are an incredibly representative group of very very special people

Clearly not to be taken seriously. It is rather strange, when there are many very legitimate polls, analyses, etc that show HRC is a very strong frontrunner that anyone feels compelled to post this nonsense.

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Response to tgards79 (Original post)

Mon Nov 23, 2015, 01:30 PM

2. their very very savvy voters gave 5 % to Granholm

Two years ago even though she can't run. Makes you question how many people were included in the vote and how savvy they really are.

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Response to karynnj (Reply #2)

Mon Nov 23, 2015, 02:13 PM

4. OK

 

The very savvy voters gave points to people not even in the race today as far as I know My understanding of the race today is Clinton, O'Malley and Sanders. What did I miss, when did Bernie drop out??

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Response to Old Codger (Reply #4)

Mon Nov 23, 2015, 02:18 PM

5. Not one of them thought he was going to win the nomination...

It was not a prefeence question, it was who do you think will get the nomination?

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Response to Old Codger (Reply #4)

Mon Nov 23, 2015, 02:19 PM

6. And who got points who is not in the race?

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Response to tgards79 (Reply #6)

Mon Nov 23, 2015, 02:30 PM

8. OK

 

I didn't think Coumo and Granholm were in it today, as far as I have seen we have Clinton,Sanders and O'Malley...

If this poll was taken 2 years ago I have no idea what it's relevance is today and wonder seriously what the reasoning behind the post is other than a rather anemic attempt to pump someones ego up...worthless data at best..

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Response to Old Codger (Reply #8)

Mon Nov 23, 2015, 02:33 PM

9. Some readers thought they would win when asked three years ago, in 2012

No one thought Cuomo or Grantham would win when asked this year. I think you are misunderstanding. The same question was asked of readers in 2012, 2014 and 2015. Do you understand now?

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Response to tgards79 (Reply #9)

Mon Nov 23, 2015, 02:38 PM

11. Granholm is Canadian born, so much for those saavy people

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jennifer_Granholm

Listen, everybody is entitled to their opinion, but most people who follow this closely know that fact.

Also, this is a poll of people reading this specific blog, so this represent NOTHING but the readers' opinion.

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Response to tgards79 (Reply #9)

Mon Nov 23, 2015, 02:38 PM

12. True, but Jennifer Granholm, born to Canadian parents in Canada, can not even run

Do YOU understand that?

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Response to karynnj (Reply #12)

Mon Nov 23, 2015, 02:42 PM

13. Yes I do...and did at the time...

...but apparently a small subset of readers did not. "Savvy" perhaps applies selectively!

The readership was a lot lower in 2012! You are right on that, too....

Still, I found it surprising that no one thought Bernie could get the nomination, and that Rubio got half the nods. That makes him, by this incredibly unscientific poll, as strong as Jeb was last year and Christie in 2012.

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Response to tgards79 (Original post)

Mon Nov 23, 2015, 02:35 PM

10. I like people who believe in their candidate

but having Granholm and McConnell in the lists casts doubt on the fact they are saavy, and their favorites' list throughout the years show that they are sensitive to the news more than saavy.

This said, clearly Hillary Clinton is ahead and has a good chance to win (if nothing changes), but you do not need to be saavy to know that.

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Response to Mass (Reply #10)

Mon Nov 23, 2015, 02:46 PM

14. Yes, but the more interesting side is the GOP side...

...Rubio rising but perhaps stronger than I thought. Again, completely unscientific.

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Response to tgards79 (Reply #14)

Mon Nov 23, 2015, 02:52 PM

15. Newsmedia have repeated that again and again. Polls reflect that

This is the problem with polls (scientific or not). There is a feedback loop. This is part of the Trump's phenomena (and Trump is exploiting it well, as he is saavy with these issues). And the incompetence of most media people on polls does not help (as shown by comments like "no other candidate is in double digits as if there was something sacred about double digits, when a candidate is 10 and the next one is 9, for example). And yes, this has nothing to do with the post, but I am really frustrated by the comments concerning the GOP field because it seems some people have only one tune to play, ranking candidates from 1 to 14).

It seems Rubio's appeal is already fading and Cruz is catching up, and who knows what will happen after that. There is still a couple of months before Iowa.

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