2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWhy is no one talking about the Youth Vote
Many Young Voters already feel alienated by both parties
"It really feels like they don't feel like our vote or input is important at all," says University of Colorado student William Raley in an interview with USA Today. "It's almost that they're like 'This is a private event, it doesn't concern you.'"
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/kelsey-clark/post_10295_b_8287322.html
Actually they are the FUTURE of the party and they are being Minimalized
So when exactly did the DNC adopt a play right out of the GOP playbook and seek to disenfranchise an entire voting block. We stand to lose an entire generation of voters, the 2016 General Election and many future election cycles for years to come.
msongs
(67,456 posts)borrowed too much money and can't pay it back? haven't found a political system they want to support? Maybe they are just lying low til actual voting begins.
maybe this is a thank Debbie wasserman schultz moment
FreakinDJ
(17,644 posts)These are young voters who actually WANT to join the process
Scuba
(53,475 posts)DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)to encourage people to join your movement?
"1. they fell for obama and now they are disillusioned? they are too busy watching their phones?"
I do not know what generation you are, but I am sure the press had any number of cliches to spout off about yours, just as they have since the days when Caesar complained about young people. The truth is, if you want any movement you want to have legs, you will need the young, because they will keep the momentum going. Even Hillary will need them come 2020.
Funny how some Hillary supporters forget that Bill won because he was the first to actually go to MTV news and appeal to Gen X.
and as far as a "thank Debbie Wasserman Schultz Moment" what would she deserve thanks for? Certainly not two straight lost mid terms that handed Congress to the GOP. Certainly not the fact she could not even keep Rock Scott from winning the governorship in her home state of Florida, namely because she picked a former Republican to run over many democrats. I doubt you would say we should be thankful less young people are voting, granted, that probably makes many Boomers happy that no one challenges them as the pampered rockstars of the party, as opposed to remembering Chicago where they were the ones considered scum. Still, I doubt you would say that, because even Hillary knows that any available vote that does not get to the polls will be a loss, because the GOP will get in their churches and make all their soldiers march on broken glass if they have to, not to mention stock their areas with a bunch of well-armed "good men with guns."
Even Hillary knows that, though I doubt Debbie does, so no, this is not a thank DWS moment.
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)We have a good idea of how they lean as a group. But, what we don't know is how many will turn that public support into a vote. Unknowns make people nervous.
FreakinDJ
(17,644 posts)that's it exactly. They may be showing interest in who gets the nomination and be telling us who they will vote for. But, we have no idea how this will effect the primary. Then of course when the GE comes around if they will continue to go with what they have been saying they want and vote.
DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)they should be supported, so that they come out in the only election that matters in the end, the general!
brooklynite
(94,757 posts)How exactly are they being denied their voting rights?
bravenak
(34,648 posts)bravenak
(34,648 posts)FreakinDJ
(17,644 posts)bravenak
(34,648 posts)FreakinDJ
(17,644 posts)Of course the youth vote played a HUGE roll in Obama being elected to office
bravenak
(34,648 posts)FreakinDJ
(17,644 posts)Why would you try to distort the article ? Not liking the reality
If they are attending a University they are 18 yrs of age or a child genius, which is vary rare. But before you go arguing they are all pimple faced geeks of abnormal intelligence and under 18 yrs of age ...
bravenak
(34,648 posts)There is no taking away of their votes. We do not cater to people who have not voted yet. We work for our base in primaries. They have to vote in one to be considered voters. Takes several cycles to become likely voters. They have to vote to get heard. They have not voted enough to register. I gets polled constantly. I vote.
FreakinDJ
(17,644 posts)So if you have no voter registration drives on campuses prior to the Primary election - in some states you can not vote in the general election unless you voted in the Primary
Hillary sure as hell doesn't want them because they would overwhelmingly vote for Bernie
bravenak
(34,648 posts)They do not need us to register them if they want to vote. They can do that. They are adults.
Go register them.
NobodyHere
(2,810 posts)I've never heard that before
Codeine
(25,586 posts)in the GE if you didn't vote in the primary?!
Where the hell is that?
DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)who did gladly VOTE for Obama. Those are still Millennials and Gen Y
Todays_Illusion
(1,209 posts)FreakinDJ
(17,644 posts)Too close to the truth here
hopemountain
(3,919 posts)they do not need paternalistic pandering. the youth are making their new world & creating their future. the less pandering from the arrogance of disrespectful outdated fools, the better.
and won't the gop and dnc be surprised when their greatest fears are realized: the youth turn out the vote in 2016.
Codeine
(25,586 posts)Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)"deprive of representation". Just because you still have the right to vote for one of two rich corporate whores does not mean you will have any representation.
DonCoquixote
(13,616 posts)were written to keep college students from begin able to vote in their own precincts (Go back home to vote kid.)
Since they were the ones who could not get off work to vote.
Since cops know that young people make easier targets, and lawyers know young people cannot afford lawyers.
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)Their functions are to raise money and keep their own bank accounts full. A Clinton presidency together with a republican congress would be perfect for the movers and shakers. They want no part of a liberal hell raiser president and all of those noisy, pissed off working people who support him.
FreakinDJ
(17,644 posts)pipoman
(16,038 posts)Then don't show up at the polls....always been this way...
jeff47
(26,549 posts)2012, Obama lost among voters over 40. It was only "the kids" that kept him in office.
2008, Obama lost or tied voters over 40. Again, "the kids" elected him.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_2012#Voter_demographics
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_2008#Voter_demographics
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)The ol' 'Get off my lawn' routine.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)The younger half of GenX trends liberal. (The older half trends conservative). But young GenX wanted different things than older Boomers and younger "WWII Generation". It was easier to form a winning coalition from the older group. So Democrats did.
Then Democrats started trading away the things GenX wanted in order to make compromises to get what older voters wanted. So younger GenX feels massive apathy, and has low turnout.
It worked for a while. But much of that coalition has since "left the electorate". So Democrats started losing by continuing to run for their ever-shrinking older, "moderate" coalition.
Will the party "get it" anytime soon? Not likely.