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Attorney in Texas

(3,373 posts)
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 12:53 PM Dec 2015

ABC News: "What's in a Name? Hillary Clinton Knows More Than Most"

link; excerpt:

As a young girl growing up in suburban Chicago, Hillary Rodham decided she'd never change her last name. Three decades later, an entire state debated her childhood choice. ... "I'll be Mrs. Bill Clinton," she told reporters in February 1982, on the day her husband announced his intention to run again for the office he'd lost. "I suspect people will be getting tired of hearing from Mrs. Bill Clinton."

Today, they hear from Hillary Clinton. That's the name aides to the front-runner for the Democratic presidential nomination say she now prefers. You might not know that from looking at her campaign website, on which she's simply referred to as Hillary.

She was Hillary Rodham Clinton throughout her time as first lady and secretary of state. That was also the name she used as an author of two best-selling memoirs and how she signed legal documents — "H R Clinton" — as recently as this past summer.

Citing Clinton's preference, The Associated Press this past week changed its style and refers to her as Hillary Clinton. Several other news organizations have done the same.

The shifting monikers fit into an attack line Republicans have pushed for years — that Clinton is an unprincipled creature of Washington whose positions move with the political winds.

Longtime Clinton observers have a slightly different take. They say the changes reflect necessary political calculations in a country that remains conservative about family names, even as family structures have become less traditional.

"Given the pattern that evolved, she clearly had strong feelings about her name," said Max Brantley, an editor at the Arkansas Times who has known the Clintons since 1974. "She kept trying in various ways to hang on to it." ... "When Clinton drops her first surname, she's just following the norms in society," Scheuble said. "She wants to be president and middle America doesn't want her to be Rodham. It's a good political position to take." ... Nearly a decade later, when she arrived in Washington after Bill Clinton's election as president and took on a role at the White House focused on health care policy, the then-first lady began using the name Hillary Rodham Clinton. Polling at the time showed that 9 percent of Americans thought the change was a good idea, 21 percent a bad idea — and 69 percent said it didn't much matter. ... She ran for the Senate in New York as "Hillary," then went back to Hillary Clinton for her 2008 presidential campaign. She returned to using Hillary Rodham Clinton as secretary of state, and did so until the launch of her second White House bid this year.
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ABC News: "What's in a Name? Hillary Clinton Knows More Than Most" (Original Post) Attorney in Texas Dec 2015 OP
Slow news day. JoePhilly Dec 2015 #1
The recent release of another batch of e-mails has fizzled as fodder. (eom) oasis Dec 2015 #2
not a slow news day at all, but I'm disinclined to post the harsh anti-Clinton stories in the news Attorney in Texas Dec 2015 #4
True and I enjoy your posts. Hepburn Dec 2015 #7
Thanks Attorney in Texas Dec 2015 #11
It is legal for her to hold her maiden name if desired? Yes, why would this be a problem. Thinkingabout Dec 2015 #3
More of us (females) have had to deal with this than one would know. It stems back from being libdem4life Dec 2015 #5
Because she wants to be president so bad TM99 Dec 2015 #6
I actually lost respect for her SheilaT Dec 2015 #8
Yup... Agschmid Dec 2015 #9
Regardless of what she calls herself she is an unprincipled opportunitist tularetom Dec 2015 #10
Thoughtful voters? Heh. Metric System Dec 2015 #12
Is there a point you're trying to make here? MaggieD Dec 2015 #13

Hepburn

(21,054 posts)
7. True and I enjoy your posts.
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 01:12 PM
Dec 2015

Thanks. I use my maiden name as my professional name and my married name socially.

 

libdem4life

(13,877 posts)
5. More of us (females) have had to deal with this than one would know. It stems back from being
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 01:09 PM
Dec 2015

considered "chattel". Unless one is a black or a woman or some other-designation who has had to fight for decades for certain rights, understanding would be difficult. It is not insignificant.

A white, Christian, male is the norm. Most everyone else has had and are still having an uphill battle. And no, I'm not putting anyone down. My favorite person in the world is a white, kind of Christian male...My son.

 

TM99

(8,352 posts)
6. Because she wants to be president so bad
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 01:12 PM
Dec 2015

she is apparently willing to compromise her own principled stance on how she wanted her names to be when married.

This is triangulation. She sees this as something conservative will admire while compromising any feminist liberal stances for maintaining her own identity separate from Bill Clinton.

We are admonished to no end when we rightfully criticize the positions and cheerleading of his policies, and now she does this.

How so many reconcile such blatant pandering and blowing with the wind situational principles, stances, and ethics is beyond me.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
8. I actually lost respect for her
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 01:12 PM
Dec 2015

when I learned she'd bowed to pressure to take on her husband's surname.

I'm all of two years younger than she is, and I never changed my last name, although my husband didn't ever run for office. I don't get why more women don't keep their original surname. It's remarkably easy. No paperwork to go through -- and I've been told by young women that they have to jump through a lot of hoops to change in the first place, and then if they divorce and want to resume their original name, or remarry and want to change it again. Why bother? Why can't men change their last names?

Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
9. Yup...
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 01:15 PM
Dec 2015
The shifting monikers fit into an attack line Republicans have pushed for years — that Clinton is an unprincipled creature of Washington whose positions move with the political winds.


Source.

And yet... Here is it on DU.

Shocked? Not anymore.

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
10. Regardless of what she calls herself she is an unprincipled opportunitist
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 01:30 PM
Dec 2015

Who inspires very little confidence in thoughtful voters.

 

MaggieD

(7,393 posts)
13. Is there a point you're trying to make here?
Sat Dec 5, 2015, 01:45 PM
Dec 2015

I'm sure the intention is some sort of smear, but it's unclear what the smear du jour is. Care to illuminate?

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