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Just in: Liz Warren endorse Hillary's Wall Street plan: (Original Post) JaneyVee Dec 2015 OP
Glad she likes it. hrmjustin Dec 2015 #1
Get the bus ready firebrand80 Dec 2015 #2
Designated parking..... quickesst Dec 2015 #21
oh my workinclasszero Dec 2015 #23
I love Elizabeth Warren, and would never throw her under the bus. PotatoChip Dec 2015 #41
I don't think... quickesst Dec 2015 #82
Hah! BlueCaliDem Dec 2015 #29
She's waiting for when it will have the most impact. MADem Dec 2015 #35
Right track sounds UglyGreed Dec 2015 #3
She agrees with the fight, but I don't read an actual endorsement of the plan itself. Betty Karlson Dec 2015 #4
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2015 #9
Why are you surprised? It's a DAY that will LIVE ... in INFAMY!!!!!! for some, I should imagine... MADem Dec 2015 #42
It's not an endorsement. Sure she likes what Hill is talking about, she loves Autumn Dec 2015 #13
Reading comprehension? Nitram Dec 2015 #48
False. Eric J in MN Dec 2015 #115
( ._.) Marty McGraw Dec 2015 #86
Exploding head syndrome will hit DU in 3..2..1.. workinclasszero Dec 2015 #5
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2015 #6
Liz Warren urged Hillary to run. JaneyVee Dec 2015 #8
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2015 #10
Not surprising at all. Bleacher Creature Dec 2015 #7
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2015 #11
She was W's Secretary of Defense firebrand80 Dec 2015 #14
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2015 #27
I'm sure you've read that and worse here. lark Dec 2015 #71
Exactly Andy823 Dec 2015 #95
Sanders got a LOT of help from Hillary Clinton in his 2006 Senate run. MADem Dec 2015 #37
Nah, facts don't matter Iliyah Dec 2015 #38
As I said elsewhere... MADem Dec 2015 #43
Surely you are joking JonLeibowitz Dec 2015 #45
His opponent was wealthy and was running ads against him. He needed the money to MADem Dec 2015 #52
Do I hear the Bernie bus warming up for Elizabeth Warren??!!? workinclasszero Dec 2015 #12
Wow at the clinton site they were trashing Liz up one side and down the other. Autumn Dec 2015 #16
Liz likes both Hillary and Bernie! MoonRiver Dec 2015 #103
This kind of endorsement will do very nicely for now. oasis Dec 2015 #15
Excellent. It's a good plan, clearly MaggieD Dec 2015 #17
Misleading headline... ljm2002 Dec 2015 #18
Its just a shadow workinclasszero Dec 2015 #24
Non responsive. n/t ljm2002 Dec 2015 #26
Non-responsive to what, precisely? MADem Dec 2015 #40
Non responsive to the points in my post... ljm2002 Dec 2015 #44
It sounds like she's endorsing Hillary's plan to me--"She and I AGREE!" MADem Dec 2015 #65
Warren was very specific about what she agrees with... ljm2002 Dec 2015 #75
The tweet is from Warren. Those are her words. MADem Dec 2015 #106
Yes Warren made a tweet supporting specific elements... ljm2002 Dec 2015 #108
Because "She and I agree" means something different to you MADem Dec 2015 #109
I agree with all 3 candidates that we shouldn't repeal banking regulations. Eric J in MN Dec 2015 #127
Wrong, 2002 Nitram Dec 2015 #49
Wrong, Nitram... ljm2002 Dec 2015 #63
Point well taken, LJM. Nitram Dec 2015 #68
She agreed with some of Clinton's positions. ljm2002 Dec 2015 #77
Bingo. Eric J in MN Dec 2015 #112
Agreeing w/ Hill that rethugs sneaking wall street perks into the spending bill is bad RiverLover Dec 2015 #19
Thank you Sen. Warren. riversedge Dec 2015 #20
Not an endorsewment. Warren is supporting something specific that should be supported Armstead Dec 2015 #22
NYTimes OP ED by Hillary Clinton: How I’d Rein In Wall Street ***** riversedge Dec 2015 #25
Some good ideas, but she studiously avoids the systemic, totally "legitimate" problems Armstead Dec 2015 #28
Whatever, Armstead, Warren quite clearly endorsed Clinton's plan. Nitram Dec 2015 #50
Tweet from Sen. Eliz Warren....... riversedge Dec 2015 #30
You have an amazing talent to read stuff into any statement that mentions Clinton's name tularetom Dec 2015 #31
Yes, way in Hell. Nitram Dec 2015 #51
"Stuff" signed by Warren, you mean? nt MADem Dec 2015 #107
Heh...you *do* know that you've scared the living bejeezus out of Bernie Sanders supporters BlueCaliDem Dec 2015 #32
Far, far short of an endorsement. highprincipleswork Dec 2015 #33
endorsing the principle of resisting Wall Street, perhaps bigtree Dec 2015 #34
Don't you get tired of yourself? earthside Dec 2015 #36
Well, I think you just made this thread worth bookmarking! MADem Dec 2015 #46
Get a grip, Side. Nitram Dec 2015 #55
Intelligent, informed, and well said. senz Dec 2015 #88
Curious, what do you need to do to get a "Genuine Progressive" card? wildeyed Dec 2015 #133
Oh, for F*ck sake, stop with the lies. askew Dec 2015 #39
I alerted on your post MaggieD Dec 2015 #47
I bet it won't be hid. leftofcool Dec 2015 #54
And as suspected.... MaggieD Dec 2015 #53
Of course. leftofcool Dec 2015 #56
IOKIYABSS MaggieD Dec 2015 #60
No surprise eh? workinclasszero Dec 2015 #70
No, Maggie. senz Dec 2015 #85
Parse on MaggieD Dec 2015 #93
It's called a category error. Look it up. senz Dec 2015 #97
Interesting MaggieD Dec 2015 #99
Oh is it? senz Dec 2015 #123
So much for civility. If this is the DU Standard, MADem Dec 2015 #111
I am not a Sanders supporter but seriously this was not an endorsement of Hillary's Wall Street askew Dec 2015 #113
HILLARY IS A TOOL OF WALL STREET AND THE GAME IS RIGGED! MrWendel Dec 2015 #126
You might be embarassed, but that is to be expected. Nitram Dec 2015 #57
You seem angry. hrmjustin Dec 2015 #59
Yea, this is a big misrepresentation. raindaddy Dec 2015 #62
Nope - wrong again MaggieD Dec 2015 #74
Let's make this really simple... raindaddy Dec 2015 #80
Glass Steagall is a meaningless warm fuzzy talking point MaggieD Dec 2015 #96
That's not the way Warren see's it.... Thanks for making my point. raindaddy Dec 2015 #104
Sadly, she is wrong MaggieD Dec 2015 #105
I trust Warren, Krugman and Robert Reich over Hillary.. raindaddy Dec 2015 #120
Krugman thinks her plan is tougher MaggieD Dec 2015 #121
Krugman didn't see much wrong with the TPP raindaddy Dec 2015 #122
"She and I agree" is an endorsement. Sorry if you don't like that. Calling someone a liar is MADem Dec 2015 #73
When Clinton does something right, Warren will approve. So what else is new? senz Dec 2015 #58
This isn't just "something right." Nitram Dec 2015 #64
Warren knows, as do we all, that Clinton is OWNED by the banks. senz Dec 2015 #72
Warren is smarter than that. She wouldn't say she agreed with Clinton... Nitram Dec 2015 #76
No. When you agree with a statement, you agree with a statement. Period. senz Dec 2015 #90
So now you can read Warren's mind? Wow, Bernie's got some amazing supporters. Nitram Dec 2015 #101
Nope...dont see ANY endorsement here... BrainDrain Dec 2015 #61
I see an endorsment of Clinton's proposal MaggieD Dec 2015 #66
"She and I agree" is not an endorsement? Nitram Dec 2015 #79
Everyone at DU agrees that banking regulations shouldn't be repealed (or almost everyone). Eric J in MN Dec 2015 #116
But Warren has NOT endorsed Hillary for president. Got it? NOT ENDORSED. senz Dec 2015 #67
Where did anyone claim she did? MaggieD Dec 2015 #69
Wha? When did I say they did? senz Dec 2015 #83
So you were simply making a straw man argument with this? MaggieD Dec 2015 #94
Nope, just keeping it all straight. senz Dec 2015 #98
Going after a straw man again, Senz? Nitram Dec 2015 #81
Good, we're all on the same page, Nitram. senz Dec 2015 #84
LOL, I believe the spelling in Clinton's case is "rein" in. Otherwise Warren wouldn't have endorsed Nitram Dec 2015 #100
My God, what a prescient Freudian slip that was! senz Dec 2015 #125
You sound like Chicken Little. Nitram Dec 2015 #131
Yes, caring about the well-being of the American people senz Dec 2015 #134
No, caring is good. Hysterical rhetoric is not. The sky is falling, the sky is falling! Nitram Dec 2015 #136
We have a responsibility to future generations. senz Dec 2015 #140
OK, I get it. Nitram Dec 2015 #142
BTW, senz, if that was a Freudian slip... Nitram Dec 2015 #132
LOL, you're communicating with one, sweetheart. senz Dec 2015 #135
Writing that I'll have to apologize to my children for voting for clinton is about as... Nitram Dec 2015 #137
We have a right and a duty to assess our politicians. senz Dec 2015 #138
You personally attacked me when you said I will need to apologize to my grandchildren, senz. Nitram Dec 2015 #139
I'm having a great day, Nitram. Hope you are too. senz Dec 2015 #141
Warren didn't even endorse "Hillary Clinton's Wall St Plan." Eric J in MN Dec 2015 #117
I'm glad that she approves of Hillary's Wall St. plan. Beacool Dec 2015 #78
Where's the Part Where Elizabeth Warren "Endorses Hillary's Wall Street Plan"? gordyfl Dec 2015 #87
LOL! Good question. senz Dec 2015 #89
Not so fast... bl968 Dec 2015 #91
lol "endorsement." retrowire Dec 2015 #92
"Endorse" LOL! merrily Dec 2015 #102
Of course Warren endorses HRC's WS plan. misterhighwasted Dec 2015 #110
Elizabeth Warren just wrote she's glad Hillary Clinton doesn't want to repeal banking regulations. Eric J in MN Dec 2015 #118
oh c'mon. just can't stand it, I understand. misterhighwasted Dec 2015 #119
They're total opposites. senz Dec 2015 #124
Bernie & Elizabeth Warren Team Up gordyfl Dec 2015 #128
HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!! postatomic Dec 2015 #114
Kick & highly recommended! William769 Dec 2015 #129
Make more room under the bus, please. McCamy Taylor Dec 2015 #130

PotatoChip

(3,186 posts)
41. I love Elizabeth Warren, and would never throw her under the bus.
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 01:33 PM
Dec 2015

Besides, positive reinforcement is an excellent training technique.

quickesst

(6,280 posts)
82. I don't think...
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 02:15 PM
Dec 2015

... that you would either, just as I don't think most Bernie Sanders supporters would. Is not meant for them. I made a little pact, sort of, with another member here to try and inject a little more humor into my posts. I don't think this is especially mean, but it is kind of spot on funny for some. Although I am a staunch Hillary supporter I have learned that I need to be a little more selective when posting about her or Bernie. I have to remind myself that what is said here at Democratic Underground has little bearing on the outcome of the primary or the GE. I do make exception to those few who actively participate in their chosen candidates campaigns. Being stuck here in Jindal world, and being in poor health, I cannot lay claim to such an honor, and I salute those who can. I mainly post here because I believe in my chosen candidate, and I rarely pass up a chance to ruffle a few feathers when the opportunity presents itself. I am for all intense and purposes, one of the "general population" that is alluded to here daily. I also come here to find out what y'all are saying about us.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
35. She's waiting for when it will have the most impact.
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 01:07 PM
Dec 2015

I agree with you about that bus, along with the "Whaddaya expect? She was a REPUBLICAN until 1996!!" charges....

 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
4. She agrees with the fight, but I don't read an actual endorsement of the plan itself.
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 11:46 AM
Dec 2015

It's rather that Warren agrees with Clinton on identifying the common enemy.

Response to Betty Karlson (Reply #4)

MADem

(135,425 posts)
42. Why are you surprised? It's a DAY that will LIVE ... in INFAMY!!!!!! for some, I should imagine...
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 01:36 PM
Dec 2015

I think it's a buildup to bigger things. Good news for Hillary!

Nitram

(22,794 posts)
48. Reading comprehension?
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 01:53 PM
Dec 2015

She was quite clear in supporting Clinton's plan, and commented on far more than the Repub amendment:

..."whether it's attacking the CFPB, undermining new rules to rein in unscrupulous retirement advisors, or rolling back any part of the hard-fought progress we've made on financial reform, she and I agree."

Read it and weep, Warren just endorsed Clinton's economic plan.

Eric J in MN

(35,619 posts)
115. False.
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 05:18 PM
Dec 2015

Elizabeth Warren doesn't want banking regulations repealed. Nor do Bernie Sanders, Martin O'Malley and Hillary Clinton.

Elizabeth Warren praised Clinton for saying that she-doesn't-want-banking-regulations-repealed. That's not endorsing Clinton's plan.

Hillary Clinton's Wall Street Plan:
- Don't restore Glass-Steagall.
- Do require more disclosure and collateral.

Elizabeth Warren agrees with Bernie Sanders & Martin O'Malley that Glass-Steagall should be restored.

Response to JaneyVee (Original post)

Response to JaneyVee (Reply #8)

Bleacher Creature

(11,256 posts)
7. Not surprising at all.
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 11:51 AM
Dec 2015

Notwithstanding some of the hyperbole here, HRC's instincts have always been far more progressive than people realize. Now that she's unmoored from being a senator from NY, I fully expect that to be reflective of her policies. Krugman has made a similar point, while also making clear that the plans being offered by BOTH Clinton and Sanders are on a whole different level as compared to what the GOP candidates want to do.

When all is said and done, I'll be shocked if Warren (as well as Sanders) doesn't offer an enthusiastic endorsement of HRC. Not sure how some people here will take that, but it doesn't change the fact that it's a near guarantee.

Response to Bleacher Creature (Reply #7)

Response to firebrand80 (Reply #14)

lark

(23,097 posts)
71. I'm sure you've read that and worse here.
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 02:05 PM
Dec 2015

Don't know why people have to demonize one candidate just because they prefer another? Any of the 3 are miles and miles better than the best Repug running. Not voting is voting for the repug.

Andy823

(11,495 posts)
95. Exactly
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 02:55 PM
Dec 2015

The idea that the world will end if candidate X, Y OR Z is NOT the nominee is ridiculous. Like you I will vote for the nominee in the general election because there is now way we can let one of those idiots in the clown car take over the WH. All three of our candidates will do a better job running this country than any republican, period!

MADem

(135,425 posts)
37. Sanders got a LOT of help from Hillary Clinton in his 2006 Senate run.
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 01:10 PM
Dec 2015

There's a reason why he calls her a friend. Not only did she pony up dough from her HILLPAC to help him (and he was running against a rich guy, and NEEDED the money), she also called up some of her donor pals and steered them towards him to help him out.

JonLeibowitz

(6,282 posts)
45. Surely you are joking
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 01:41 PM
Dec 2015

Just look at the polling. Did he really NEED the money quite as much as you imply? Is he really that beholden to HRC? Be honest.

Source Date Sanders (I) Tarrant (R)
Research 2000 October 23–24, 2006 57% 36%
Research 2000 September 18–19, 2006 58% 33%
American Research Group September 15, 2006 55% 40%
Rasmussen August 3, 2006 62% 34%
American Research Group July 27, 2006 56% 35%
Rasmussen June 16, 2006 67% 29%
Research 2000 May 11, 2006 61% 24%
Doyle Poll March 7, 2006 62% 26%
Rasmussen January 5, 2006 70% 25%
Research 2000 November 1, 2005 64% 16%

Sanders won more than 2x as many votes as his opponent.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Senate_election_in_Vermont,_2006#Polling

MADem

(135,425 posts)
52. His opponent was wealthy and was running ads against him. He needed the money to
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 01:56 PM
Dec 2015

--for the first time in his elective history--counter those ads with ads of his own.

That's how his wife made all that money from the campaign...BUYING ads.

Good grief, before you yank out the "Surely you are joking" snark you probably should do a little homework. This wasn't the House race--this was a Senate race against deep pockets. He needed money to staunch a trendline. If you look at your OWN figures, he goes from seventy percent in January to FIFTY FIVE percent in September. Is that a cute glide slope to you?

You don't think five points is insurmountable, do you?

Of COURSE he needed the money. Don't be obtuse!!

He pulled it out at the end because a) He was a known quantity, and people playing the "undecided" card (to get attention) eventually cut towards Sanders and b) He had a far better debate performance than his opponent. However, for a time there, the trend was wrong for him.

The smart candidate ALWAYS runs like they are twenty points behind.

If he didn't need the money, why did he TAKE it? And SPEND it? Hmmmm?

Autumn

(45,066 posts)
16. Wow at the clinton site they were trashing Liz up one side and down the other.
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 12:02 PM
Dec 2015

You know this is not an endorsement? I think she is for the actions not the person so I don't think heads will explode, at least not here. Sure she likes what Hill has to say, she loves what Bernie is talking about...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/128080500

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
103. Liz likes both Hillary and Bernie!
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 03:25 PM
Dec 2015

That's because all three share almost all of their views in common. Who knew?

oasis

(49,381 posts)
15. This kind of endorsement will do very nicely for now.
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 12:02 PM
Dec 2015

I'll wait for a press conference in early March for Warren's "special announcement".

ljm2002

(10,751 posts)
18. Misleading headline...
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 12:25 PM
Dec 2015

...as Warren's comments were not about Clinton's plan per se, but rather they were stating that Clinton is right to fight Republicans as they keep trying to insert Wall Street-friendly clauses into "the must-pass government funding bill".

Get back to us when Warren has actually endorsed Clinton's plan.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
40. Non-responsive to what, precisely?
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 01:31 PM
Dec 2015

This ain't the courthouse, and you're not Perry Mason!

I think this is a harbinger of things to come...!

Vroom, vrrrrrroooom....is that a foot on the bus accelerator I hear?

MADem

(135,425 posts)
65. It sounds like she's endorsing Hillary's plan to me--"She and I AGREE!"
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 02:01 PM
Dec 2015

If she were using similar verbiage about Sanders, you'd have that flip flop on the other foot!

ljm2002

(10,751 posts)
75. Warren was very specific about what she agrees with...
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 02:06 PM
Dec 2015

...and it doesn't begin to cover all of Clinton's plan.

As someone who is a fan of accuracy, I myself would not spin such a statement to be agreement with my candidate's plan. If Warren chooses to endorse Clinton's plan, she will say so clearly.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
106. The tweet is from Warren. Those are her words.
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 03:47 PM
Dec 2015

You can play the "Nothing to see here, move along " card all you'd like...but she didn't have to say a doggone word! The fact that she did is salient.

ljm2002

(10,751 posts)
108. Yes Warren made a tweet supporting specific elements...
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 04:04 PM
Dec 2015

...of Clinton's plan. Good for her and good for Clinton for advocating that much. Sincerely.

All I am saying, it is a stretch to say that Warren's tweet is an endorsement of Clinton's plan. When / if she chooses to endorse Clinton's plan, I am sure she will make it crystal clear.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
109. Because "She and I agree" means something different to you
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 04:24 PM
Dec 2015

than it does to the rest of the world?

Eric J in MN

(35,619 posts)
127. I agree with all 3 candidates that we shouldn't repeal banking regulations.
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 08:52 PM
Dec 2015

I'm not endorsing the "Wall St Plans" of all 3 candidates.

Elizabeth Warren just praised Hillary Clinton for writing we shouldn't repeal banking regulations.

O'Malley and Sanders don't want to, either. And they're closer to Warren's position since the latter two candidates want to restore Glass-Steagall.

Nitram

(22,794 posts)
49. Wrong, 2002
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 01:54 PM
Dec 2015

..."whether it's attacking the CFPB, undermining new rules to rein in unscrupulous retirement advisors, or rolling back any part of the hard-fought progress we've made on financial reform, she and I agree."

ljm2002

(10,751 posts)
63. Wrong, Nitram...
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 02:01 PM
Dec 2015

...those are very specific positions she is agreeing with. Not Clinton's Wall Street plan. They are only a part of it.

Take, for example, the issue of Glass-Steagall. Clinton is on record as being against it, even the newer updated version that was proposed; while Warren is for it:

http://thehill.com/policy/finance/247929-warren-calls-for-return-of-glass-steagall

You will note that in Clinton's NYT OpEd, she specifically rejected a renewal of Glass-Steagall. So right there, she is obviously not in agreement with all of Clinton's plan.

ljm2002

(10,751 posts)
77. She agreed with some of Clinton's positions.
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 02:08 PM
Dec 2015

And I also will take that as a positive. The more consensus we arrive at on how to deal with the criminal banksters, the better.

But I still think Sanders has a better handle on these issues.

RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
19. Agreeing w/ Hill that rethugs sneaking wall street perks into the spending bill is bad
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 12:26 PM
Dec 2015

is "endorsing her Wall Street plan"?

Reading comprehension????

This place is getting crazier by the day.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
22. Not an endorsewment. Warren is supporting something specific that should be supported
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 12:44 PM
Dec 2015

The GOP and Banksters (and some Democrat sell outs) are trying to roll back new regulations and some traditional ones by sneaking them through the spending bill.

Good for Clinton if she is bringing attention to that and opposing it. I'll agree with Warren on that.

riversedge

(70,205 posts)
25. NYTimes OP ED by Hillary Clinton: How I’d Rein In Wall Street *****
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 12:51 PM
Dec 2015

NYTimes OP ED by Hillary Clinton: How I’d Rein In Wall Street *****
The Opinion Pages | Op-Ed Contributor
Hillary Clinton: How I’d Rein In Wall Street

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/07/opinion/hillary-clinton-how-id-rein-in-wall-street.html?_r=0

By HILLARY CLINTONDEC. 7, 2015
Photo


...............My comprehensive plan has already won praise from progressives like Sherrod Brown and Barney Frank. Here’s what it would do.

First, we need to further rein in major financial institutions. My plan proposes legislation that would impose a new risk fee on dozens of the biggest banks — those with more than $50 billion in assets — and other systemically important financial institutions to discourage the kind of hazardous behavior that could induce another crisis. I would also ensure that the federal government has — and is prepared to use — the authority and tools necessary to reorganize, downsize and ultimately break up any financial institution that is too large and risky to be managed effectively. No bank or financial firm should be too big to manage.

My plan would strengthen the Volcker Rule by closing the loopholes that still allow banks to make speculative gambles with taxpayer-backed deposits. And I would fight to reinstate the rules governing risky credit swaps and derivatives at taxpayer-backed banks, which were repealed during last year’s budget negotiations after a determined lobbying campaign by the banks.


My plan also goes beyond the biggest banks to include the whole financial sector. Some have urged the return of a Depression-era rule called Glass-Steagall, which separated traditional banking from investment banking. But many of the firms that contributed to the crash in 2008, like A.I.G. and Lehman Brothers, weren’t traditional banks, so Glass-Steagall wouldn’t have limited their reckless behavior. Nor would restoring Glass-Steagall help contain other parts of the “shadow banking” sector, including certain activities of hedge funds, investment banks and other non-bank institutions. My plan would strengthen oversight of these activities, too — increasing leverage and liquidity requirements for broker-dealers and imposing strict margin requirements on the kinds of short-term borrowing that also played a major role in spurring the financial crisis. We need to tackle excessive risk wherever it lurks, not just in the banks.



Second, I would appoint tough, independent regulators and ensure that both the Securities and Exchange Commission and the Commodity Futures Trading Commission are independently funded — as other critical regulators are now — so that they can do their jobs without political interference. I would seek to impose a tax on harmful high-frequency trading, which makes markets less stable and less fair. And we need to reform stock market rules to ensure equal access to information, increase transparency and minimize conflicts of interest.

Finally, executives need to be held more accountable. No one should be too big to jail. I would seek to extend the statute of limitations for major financial crimes to 10 years from five and enhance rewards for whistle-blowers. I would work to ensure that financial firms admit wrongdoing as part of settlements in instances of egregious misconduct, and increase transparency about the terms of settlement and the fines actually paid to the government. Fines should be more than just the cost of doing business to these companies — they should be an effective disincentive for illegal behavior.......................more....



Hillary Clinton, a former secretary of state, is a candidate for the Democratic nomination for president.

A version of this op-ed appears in print on December 7, 2015, on page A23 of the New York edition with the headline: How to Rein In Wall Street. Today's Paper



>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

Tweet:

Elizabeth Warren Verified account
?@elizabethforma

.@HillaryClinton is right to fight GOP efforts to sneak financial reform rollbacks into the funding bill. http://nyti.ms/1lIMqjj





 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
28. Some good ideas, but she studiously avoids the systemic, totally "legitimate" problems
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 12:55 PM
Dec 2015

Glass Stegal is not a cure all -- but we do need to rein in the size and structural issues regarding these monopolistic banking mobs.

The problem with her approach is that by focusing on the "shadow banking" and the most egregious criomes of some, she is not attacking the root causes and structural problems in the system.



riversedge

(70,205 posts)
30. Tweet from Sen. Eliz Warren.......
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 12:56 PM
Dec 2015




Elizabeth Warren Verified account
?@elizabethforma

.@HillaryClinton is right to fight GOP efforts to sneak financial reform rollbacks into the funding bill. http://nyti.ms/1lIMqjj

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
31. You have an amazing talent to read stuff into any statement that mentions Clinton's name
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 12:58 PM
Dec 2015

No way in hell does Warren "endorse" Clinton's Wall Street "plan". She agrees with a statement Clinton made about the funding bill.

Because I think Warren would advocate a little stronger action than telling Wall Street to cut it out.

Nitram

(22,794 posts)
51. Yes, way in Hell.
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 01:56 PM
Dec 2015

..."whether it's attacking the CFPB, undermining new rules to rein in unscrupulous retirement advisors, or rolling back any part of the hard-fought progress we've made on financial reform, she and I agree."

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
32. Heh...you *do* know that you've scared the living bejeezus out of Bernie Sanders supporters
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 12:58 PM
Dec 2015

with that "endorse" word in the subject line, don't you, Janey? Shame on you.

bigtree

(85,996 posts)
34. endorsing the principle of resisting Wall Street, perhaps
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 01:03 PM
Dec 2015

...but far from an endorsement of the particulars of her plan.

earthside

(6,960 posts)
36. Don't you get tired of yourself?
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 01:07 PM
Dec 2015

'Endorsement'?

Why do the Hillarians have to grasp at every straw that a genuine progressive utters about Mrs. Clinton?

Because ..... Hillary is not a progressive and they must latch on to anything that can bolster her credibility with this important part of the Democratic base.

I find these posts and threads revelatory of the Clinton campaign and don't mind them in the least. If I were a Clinton supporter I would find it tiresome that I would have to keep making these kinds of posts, however.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
46. Well, I think you just made this thread worth bookmarking!
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 01:45 PM
Dec 2015

What will you say when Warren endorses Clinton?

And what's a "progressive?" Someone who didn't vote for the Brady bill? Someone who takes a states' rights approach to issues like marriage equality?

I find posts like yours revelatory, too.

Nitram

(22,794 posts)
55. Get a grip, Side.
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 01:57 PM
Dec 2015

Clinton has always been a progressive, and Warren's support of her plan is one piece of solid evidence.

..."whether it's attacking the CFPB, undermining new rules to rein in unscrupulous retirement advisors, or rolling back any part of the hard-fought progress we've made on financial reform, she and I agree."

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
88. Intelligent, informed, and well said.
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 02:28 PM
Dec 2015

No wonder some people don't like it.

Do not let their attacks get to you, earthside.

wildeyed

(11,243 posts)
133. Curious, what do you need to do to get a "Genuine Progressive" card?
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 10:17 AM
Dec 2015

What are the exact prerequisites for membership? Is it like earning a merit badge where you actually have to do things? If so, what? Are there regular meetings? Do you make members recite a pledge? Or is the sole requirement being a Bernie Sanders supporter?



askew

(1,464 posts)
39. Oh, for F*ck sake, stop with the lies.
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 01:24 PM
Dec 2015

It wasn't an endorsement of any plan. Seriously, this is embarassing.

 

MaggieD

(7,393 posts)
47. I alerted on your post
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 01:48 PM
Dec 2015

I would like to see if the jury system here will excuse you calling a poster a liar simply because you are a Bernie supporter. Let's see.

 

MaggieD

(7,393 posts)
53. And as suspected....
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 01:56 PM
Dec 2015

It's fine to call a Hillary supporter a liar if you are a Sanders supporter. #thesystemisrigged

On Mon Dec 7, 2015, 12:47 PM you sent an alert on the following post:

Oh, for F*ck sake, stop with the lies.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=881286

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

YOUR COMMENTS

Calling a poster a liar is abusive. Please don't let this stand just because the person is a Bernie supporter. That is no excuse.

JURY RESULTS

A randomly-selected Jury of DU members completed their review of this alert at Mon Dec 7, 2015, 12:55 PM, and voted 2-5 to LEAVE IT ALONE.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: GDP again. Disagree and post why you disagree. Enough with the "liar" accusations.
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #6 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No reason for this level of disrespect. Think first before posting.
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given

Thank you.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
85. No, Maggie.
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 02:23 PM
Dec 2015

To say a statement is a lie is one thing.

To call another person a liar is another.

I shall respect your intelligence and assume you can see the difference.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
97. It's called a category error. Look it up.
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 03:02 PM
Dec 2015

I don't have time right now. I'm going to a movie with a friend.

 

MaggieD

(7,393 posts)
99. Interesting
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 03:10 PM
Dec 2015

I will say, this primary election has been quite illuminating regarding folks that call them "democrats." I used to have a completely different view of the "members" of our party.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
123. Oh is it?
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 08:22 PM
Dec 2015

I've been a registered Democrat since I reached voting age. And that's the 1960s. Probably longer than you've been alive, MaggieD. So don't go questioning my Democratic creds, okay?

askew

(1,464 posts)
113. I am not a Sanders supporter but seriously this was not an endorsement of Hillary's Wall Street
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 05:14 PM
Dec 2015

plan by any stretch of the imagination. Hillary supporters do her no good by lying (and yes it was a lie).

MrWendel

(1,881 posts)
126. HILLARY IS A TOOL OF WALL STREET AND THE GAME IS RIGGED!
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 08:51 PM
Dec 2015

Meanwhile on the DU jury where on one on the "leave it alone" vote has the B@##$ to write a reason for why they voted that way...

raindaddy

(1,370 posts)
62. Yea, this is a big misrepresentation.
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 02:00 PM
Dec 2015

Warren wants to reinstate Glass Steagall and break up the too big to fail banks... Hillary wants us to trust her to tell them to cut it out!

raindaddy

(1,370 posts)
80. Let's make this really simple...
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 02:12 PM
Dec 2015

"reform" can mean just about anything..

The two major reforms are breaking up the too big to fail banks and reinstating Glass Steagall! Unless she's made another 180 she's against both. Sanders and Warren disagree..

 

MaggieD

(7,393 posts)
96. Glass Steagall is a meaningless warm fuzzy talking point
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 02:58 PM
Dec 2015

It is politics over real solutions. And that is precisely why Bernie never explains how it will solve any problem. Because it won't. Now I doubt Hillary would veto it if congress passed it (and she has never said she would). Her objection is to passing something meaningless that in no way solves the problem.

Meanwhile, your guy is content to play politics instead of proposing meaningful solutions.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/07/opinion/hillary-clinton-how-id-rein-in-wall-street.html?_r=0

"My plan also goes beyond the biggest banks to include the whole financial sector. Some have urged the return of a Depression-era rule called Glass-Steagall, which separated traditional banking from investment banking. But many of the firms that contributed to the crash in 2008, like A.I.G. and Lehman Brothers, weren’t traditional banks, so Glass-Steagall wouldn’t have limited their reckless behavior. Nor would restoring Glass-Steagall help contain other parts of the “shadow banking” sector, including certain activities of hedge funds, investment banks and other non-bank institutions. My plan would strengthen oversight of these activities, too — increasing leverage and liquidity requirements for broker-dealers and imposing strict margin requirements on the kinds of short-term borrowing that also played a major role in spurring the financial crisis. We need to tackle excessive risk wherever it lurks, not just in the banks."

raindaddy

(1,370 posts)
104. That's not the way Warren see's it.... Thanks for making my point.
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 03:32 PM
Dec 2015

Warren called on Democrats to rally behind her proposal to re-instate Glass-Steagall, which President Bill Clinton repealed in 1999, during a speech in Washington to mark the fifth anniversary of the 2010 Dodd-Frank Wall Street Reform law.

She portrayed the repeal of Glass-Steagall as one of the causes of the 2008 economic collapse, something that Federal Reserve officials and Clinton refute.




http://thehill.com/policy/finance/247929-warren-calls-for-return-of-glass-steagall


I think what you meant to say is it would be meaningless in a Clinton presidency that'll have a warm fuzzy relationship with the Wall Street banks..
 

MaggieD

(7,393 posts)
105. Sadly, she is wrong
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 03:41 PM
Dec 2015

As many, many, many people have pointed out, including Paul Krugman. Glass Steagall did not cause the meltdown and it won't prevent another one.

And then there is the matter that congress is simply not going to vote to reinstate it. So rather than tilt at windmills Hillary proposed a plan that include common sense solutions that will work.

That is precisely what makes her the best candidate for the job. It would easy for her to parrot this warm fuzzy stuff for the sake of politics. But she doesn't. Which kind of flies in the face of the Bernie supporter accusation that she will say and do anything to get elected.

raindaddy

(1,370 posts)
120. I trust Warren, Krugman and Robert Reich over Hillary..
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 06:44 PM
Dec 2015

Reich on Hillary's refusal to support GS...

"It’s a big mistake economically because the repeal of Glass-Steagall led directly to the 2008 Wall Street crash, and without it we’re in danger of another one."

I love it Reich, Sanders , Warren and Krugman (who believes it was a mistake to repeal Glass Steagall) are parroting warm fuzzy stuff and you're siding with the woman who became a millionaire giving speeches to Wall Street banks...

 

MaggieD

(7,393 posts)
121. Krugman thinks her plan is tougher
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 07:04 PM
Dec 2015

Warren is playing the same politics Bernie is. And Reich is an idiot and gigantic hypocrite. He gets paid $250K to teach ONE class at a publicly funded university and $35K-100K per 45 minutes speech. Why do you even care what he thinks? Because he lies and pretends he's an economist? He isn't. He's a lawyer.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/16/opinion/democrats-republicans-and-wall-street-tycoons.html?_r=0

raindaddy

(1,370 posts)
122. Krugman didn't see much wrong with the TPP
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 07:23 PM
Dec 2015

Funny Bill thought enough of Reich he appointed him his Sec. of Labor.. He like Bill are Rhodes scholars.. Reich studied politics and "economics" at Oxford.. He taught at Harvard and he's currently teaching at UC Berkeley..

The difference between Bernie and Hillary is we would see appointments like Krugman and Reich in his administration not the bunch of industry hacks typical of a Third Way Democrat..

MADem

(135,425 posts)
73. "She and I agree" is an endorsement. Sorry if you don't like that. Calling someone a liar is
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 02:05 PM
Dec 2015

incredibly rude and uncivil, too. Particularly when your charge is just not accurate.

What's embarrassing is that you would say such a thing on DU, nowadays. It used to be that no one would think of being so directly rude and divisive.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
58. When Clinton does something right, Warren will approve. So what else is new?
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 01:59 PM
Dec 2015

Clinton's trying harder and harder to appear liberal/progressive. This is, after all, the Democratic primary, and polls show a huge number of disaffected progressives who vote in Democratic primaries.

And if appearances were reality, we could all rejoice, couldn't we?

Nitram

(22,794 posts)
64. This isn't just "something right."
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 02:01 PM
Dec 2015

Warren is all about the economy and this is about Clinton's stance on the banks, etc. This is more significant than Bernie "catching up " to Clinton by a few percentage points in a poll.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
72. Warren knows, as do we all, that Clinton is OWNED by the banks.
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 02:05 PM
Dec 2015

Still, she will approve any statement that the banks need to be controlled.

Of course. So would I. Say nice things Hllary, please do.

Nitram

(22,794 posts)
76. Warren is smarter than that. She wouldn't say she agreed with Clinton...
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 02:06 PM
Dec 2015

...unless she thought she meant it, and would follow through if elected.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
90. No. When you agree with a statement, you agree with a statement. Period.
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 02:34 PM
Dec 2015

But you can read all you want into it if it makes you happy.

Nitram

(22,794 posts)
101. So now you can read Warren's mind? Wow, Bernie's got some amazing supporters.
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 03:15 PM
Dec 2015

Btw, Warren tweeted that she "she and I agree." She said nothing about "agreeing with a statement."

..."whether it's attacking the CFPB, undermining new rules to rein in unscrupulous retirement advisors, or rolling back any part of the hard-fought progress we've made on financial reform, she and I agree."

Nitram

(22,794 posts)
79. "She and I agree" is not an endorsement?
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 02:12 PM
Dec 2015

So much more significant because it is about the economy, Warren's main cause.

Eric J in MN

(35,619 posts)
116. Everyone at DU agrees that banking regulations shouldn't be repealed (or almost everyone).
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 05:22 PM
Dec 2015

That doesn't mean that we all endorse "Hillary Clinton's Wall Street Plan."

Elizabeth Warren was glad that Clinton wrote that she doesn't want banking regulations repealed. That's it.


 

senz

(11,945 posts)
67. But Warren has NOT endorsed Hillary for president. Got it? NOT ENDORSED.
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 02:01 PM
Dec 2015

If Hill wins the primary (heaven forbid), then Warren, like all of us, will do what she has to do.

 

MaggieD

(7,393 posts)
69. Where did anyone claim she did?
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 02:03 PM
Dec 2015

Sounds like you are upset that Warren agrees with Clinton on this.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
83. Wha? When did I say they did?
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 02:16 PM
Dec 2015

Hm? I don't know what you're talking about.

Why, if I didn't know better, I'd think you're hoping someone would be upset.

As if the whole purpose of posting here were to upset other people. I mean, really. Who would do that?

Now as for Warren's approval of Hillary saying the right thing? That's normal. I, too, approve.

Nice words are nice words. Keep sayin' 'em, Hillary.




 

MaggieD

(7,393 posts)
94. So you were simply making a straw man argument with this?
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 02:50 PM
Dec 2015

"But Warren has NOT endorsed Hillary for president. Got it? NOT ENDORSED"

Warren has also not endorsed rainbows, unicorns and ponies. Just saying.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
98. Nope, just keeping it all straight.
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 03:05 PM
Dec 2015

It's so easy to get off track here, isn't it?

Logic is our friend.

Nitram

(22,794 posts)
81. Going after a straw man again, Senz?
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 02:13 PM
Dec 2015

No one said anything about a presidential endorsement. We're talking about a plan for Wall ST, the big banks and the economy.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
84. Good, we're all on the same page, Nitram.
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 02:19 PM
Dec 2015

Yes, yes, we know Hillary has long wanted to reign in Wall St.

Oh of course she has.

Nitram

(22,794 posts)
100. LOL, I believe the spelling in Clinton's case is "rein" in. Otherwise Warren wouldn't have endorsed
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 03:11 PM
Dec 2015

...her views. I know you Bernistas are unshakably confident of your understanding of Clinton's agenda, but you'll find out during the next 5 years that you were way off base. Hey, nothing lost, we all make mistakes.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
125. My God, what a prescient Freudian slip that was!
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 08:45 PM
Dec 2015

Clinton's "agenda" is clear to anyone who has seen who her major donors are and noticed who she hangs out with. She's Wall Street's candidate.

She doesn't give a damn about the American people.

If by some horrible mistake she, or any Republican, makes it to the presidency, you can spend the rest of your life apologizing to your children and grandchildren. Don't expect any sympathy from me, though.

Nitram

(22,794 posts)
131. You sound like Chicken Little.
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 09:17 AM
Dec 2015

amazing how worked up you people get about your interesting view of reality.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
134. Yes, caring about the well-being of the American people
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 01:06 PM
Dec 2015

is so "chicken." I mean, it's only people's lives, so what's the big deal?

Right, Nitram?


Nitram

(22,794 posts)
136. No, caring is good. Hysterical rhetoric is not. The sky is falling, the sky is falling!
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 04:49 PM
Dec 2015

This is way over the top, dude: "If by some horrible mistake she, or any Republican, makes it to the presidency, you can spend the rest of your life apologizing to your children and grandchildren. Don't expect any sympathy from me, though."

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
140. We have a responsibility to future generations.
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 05:04 PM
Dec 2015

The mistakes we make now can cause horrible suffering for those younger and those not yet born. In fact, they already are. This election is not some trivial "personality" contest. It's about the future. Much hangs in the balance. Pay attention.

'Nuff sed.

Nitram

(22,794 posts)
142. OK, I get it.
Wed Dec 9, 2015, 09:17 AM
Dec 2015

You thought I perceived this election as a "personality contest." If you think that little of everybody who disagrees with you...

Nitram

(22,794 posts)
132. BTW, senz, if that was a Freudian slip...
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 09:19 AM
Dec 2015

...it would suggest that the origins of your Hillary hate might be rooted in your fear of a dominating older woman. Care to speculate who that might be?

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
135. LOL, you're communicating with one, sweetheart.
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 01:14 PM
Dec 2015

Older woman, that is. Although I hope I'm not "dominating."

So, as an older person, let me point out a major difference between my comments in this conversation and yours: I criticize Hillary, you criticize me. I'm talking politics, you're hurling insults. That's not good, Nitram. Try to get a better handle on the hostility and aggression. Try to take the long view and think about what is best for our beautiful country and its people. That's what this election is about.

Now have a nice day, dear.

Nitram

(22,794 posts)
137. Writing that I'll have to apologize to my children for voting for clinton is about as...
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 04:53 PM
Dec 2015

...personal as you can get. You can stop patting yourself on the back about your moral superiority now. and if this isn't hostility,l I don't know what is: "She doesn't give a damn about the American people."

Listen to yourself, senz, you are way over the top.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
138. We have a right and a duty to assess our politicians.
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 04:59 PM
Dec 2015

But you seem to be locked into personal attacks.

That is unfortunate. I don't think I want to deal with you anymore.

Nitram

(22,794 posts)
139. You personally attacked me when you said I will need to apologize to my grandchildren, senz.
Tue Dec 8, 2015, 05:01 PM
Dec 2015

You seem locked into an echo chamber of vitriol. I hope you have a better day tomorrow.

Eric J in MN

(35,619 posts)
117. Warren didn't even endorse "Hillary Clinton's Wall St Plan."
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 05:25 PM
Dec 2015

A NYT editor put a misleading headline on top of an article.

The article just says that Warren is glad that Hillary Clinton doesn't want to repeal banking-regulations.

Sanders & O'Malley don't want to repeal banking-regulations, either.

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
78. I'm glad that she approves of Hillary's Wall St. plan.
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 02:11 PM
Dec 2015

I don't mind that Warren has chosen to remain neutral and not endorse a candidate at this point in time. It's her prerogative.

gordyfl

(598 posts)
87. Where's the Part Where Elizabeth Warren "Endorses Hillary's Wall Street Plan"?
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 02:25 PM
Dec 2015

She says Hillary, Obama and Congressional Democrats should do everything they can to stop Republicans. Where's the specific endorsement of Hillary's plan?



misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
110. Of course Warren endorses HRC's WS plan.
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 04:37 PM
Dec 2015

They are both positioning themselves to do precisely what they say they'll do with big banks.

They're both on the same page here. And they will both need each other to change a system that favors Wall St.
They are both aware of the power they hold together.

Kudos to Warren & Clinton.

Eric J in MN

(35,619 posts)
118. Elizabeth Warren just wrote she's glad Hillary Clinton doesn't want to repeal banking regulations.
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 05:28 PM
Dec 2015

There was no plan endorsed. Warren wants to restore Glass-Steagall; Clinton doesn't.

A NYT editor put a misleading headline on top of the article.

misterhighwasted

(9,148 posts)
119. oh c'mon. just can't stand it, I understand.
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 05:51 PM
Dec 2015

There's no point in this endorsement to argue.
They are not on opposing sides. They perhaps bring some variety of ideas how best to achieve the same goal.

I cannot wait to know what powerful appointment Pres HRC will hand to E Warren.
They do not oppose each other, they are friends & respectable collegues.
Just accept it.
thank you

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
124. They're total opposites.
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 08:28 PM
Dec 2015

Hillary is bought by and sold to Wall St. They love her.

Elizabeth has long been a thorn in Wall Street's side. They fear her.

And you need to know who and what you are supporting, misterhighwasted.

Don't fool yourself.

gordyfl

(598 posts)
128. Bernie & Elizabeth Warren Team Up
Mon Dec 7, 2015, 11:49 PM
Dec 2015
Two of the most prominent liberals in the Senate have joined forces to take on the big banks as Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-VT) has announced that he is teaming up with Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) to co-sponsor her bill that would reinstate the Glass-Steagall Act.






http://www.politicususa.com/2015/07/17/liberals-roar-bernie-sanders-joins-elizabeth-warren-bill-reinstate-glass-steagall.html


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