On a scale of 1 to Apocalypse, what would happen if HRC campaign had breached data?

[JaneyVee]

On DU, let alone the media pundits. Yikes! DU would be calling for her immediate suspension and the pity party would be GINORMOUS!

If there's a chance one of the 4 staffers has an Excel document containing HRC modeling data it is suspension-worthy.

I demand a full investigation.

[UglyGreed]

1. No one would of ever known of

such actions.

[randys1]

15. Like the total non issue of her emails and server?

riiiiiiight

[UglyGreed]

22. All Hillary had to do

was to be responsible and follow protocol and none of this nonsense would be hanging over her head..... Just sayin"

[randys1]

26. There it is...no need to go to any rightwing site...it is right here at DU

[UglyGreed]

30. Ohhhh

ohhhh right wing smear card while I support a Socialist.............. Let me borrow Hillary's line.....


?w=560

So far left I'm right

[JaneyVee]

36. ...

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/420262/republicans-should-help-bernie-sanders-weaken-hillary-myra-adams

Not unheard of.

[UglyGreed]

40. Many of your statements

here on DU show your true colors..... New Democrats living in Republican glass houses should not throw stones.......

[randys1]

39. You are the one who is using their talking points, not me.

Is that incorrect?

[UglyGreed]

42. I did not force

Hillary do what she did.......... It is her own fault. But of course if someone on the left dare say that he/she is labeled by the third way supporters.....

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[workinclasszero]

2. It would be the end of the world as we know it

and all Hillary's fault, to be sure!

But its Bernies campaign that did it so...its the evvvvvil DNC's fault of course.

[AgingAmerican]

3. She has DWS cheating for her

Apple and oranges

[VanillaRhapsody]

5. any proof of that?

we DO have proof that Sanders campaign cheats now don't we?

[JaneyVee]

9. Cheating? DNC has been more than accommodating to Bernie.

[AgingAmerican]

28. Openly cheating, doesn't even try to hide it anymore

It is a blatant act of corruption to deny Bernie Sanders' campaign access to voter files. If there was a breach of security due to the inept ability of the DNC to protect their candidates' and citizens' information that is the DNC's fault, NOT the Sanders' campaign. She won't be able to the lid back on it this time.

?1450455394

[JaneyVee]

32. I'm sure you will provide evidence some day.

[AgingAmerican]

37. DWS has already proven it, not that you care....yet

Once it blows up, you will care but for the wrong reasons.

Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

[JaneyVee]

43. So then bring forth your evidence.

[randys1]

21. THey are stacking the deck, not cheating. I hate this debate situation, need many more

and at good times.

Use the phrase "stacking the deck", then you can be accurate.


Although, as a poker player, I just realized "stacking the deck" is cheating


\nevermind

[AgingAmerican]

31. She won't be able to get the lid back on this time

[Jarqui]

4. Nothing, she just would have lied about it, ignored it and moved on

"I did not have data base relations with that server!!"

[VanillaRhapsody]

8. Its not about what SHE would do...

Its what DU would do...


besides...conflating her with her husband is sexist. They are not joined at the hip.

[Jarqui]

18. It's ALWAYS about Hillary, always

Media laps it up. Hillary laps it up. Her supporters lap it up.

It's just the way it is and has always been.

[JaneyVee]

23. Are you referring to the same media who...

Have been trying to destroy the Clinton's for decades?

[Jarqui]

46. I'm sorry but the Clinton's brought a bunch of this garbage on to themselves

Probably you and most certainly I never had sex with Monica in the Oval office.

In April 2015, Hillary said: “We need to get unaccountable money out of our political system.”
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2015/04/14/hillary_clinton_we_need_to_get_unaccountable_money_out_of_political_system_even_if_that_takes_a_constitutional_amendment.html

Have you seen the dollars going into her campaign and the Clinton Foundation and the mining or arms entities that seemed to benefit.

Probably you and most certainly I didn't make Hillary accept that money or get involved with these people.

Probably you and most certainly I didn't make her use a personal server at home while she was Secretary of State.

Neither of us falsely claimed Bosnian snipers shot at us or that we were "integral" to the Irish peace process when the media was trying to find some relevant foreign policy experience in 2008.

Without exaggeration, I could make this list more than 1000 items long. Bill and Hillary need to take more responsibility for their own lies, flip-flops, shady activities, etc. If they ever do that, maybe the media wouldn't be so intent on ravaging them. And that is a big problem with having Hillary as the Democratic candidate: because it isn't just the Republicans who hate her - there are a bunch in the media who would love to fry her. And with the volume of material they've got on her, odds are, they will.

[gwheezie]

6. This would be covered 24/7 on msm

It would be nonstop.

[Renew Deal]

7. The apocalypse would have an apocalypse

[JaneyVee]

11. LOL

[VanillaRhapsody]

10. total frigging Armageddon

[JaneyVee]

16. +1000

[Fawke Em]

12. Nice to see Clinton supporters finally worried about data breaches.

After spending months yawning about her private and unsecure server that any middle schooler could hack.



Apparently, that's no longer news to the MSM, but I, for one, want to know if it was hacked and what national security information was accessed. Clinton's server didn't have the layers of security that the federal government has. When their servers were hacked, it was easily discovered after some personnel files were breached, but no national security secrets were accessed. We don't know what was accessed on that private server.

[JaneyVee]

20. No evidence of it breached...

Yet, the state dept has been hacked numerous times.

[randys1]

24. And there it is, no need to go to free republic or any other rightwing site.

Allowing this here at DU is a disgrace

[upaloopa]

13. A lot of DUers would have singed heads

[RGinNJ]

14. 1or less than 1.

[VanillaRhapsody]

19. Are you the guy that got fired?

If so...then that would make sense...

[Tommy2Tone]

17. They would be holding congressional hearings...

at the very least.

[JaneyVee]

27. NOT GOOD ENOUGH!!!

[alcibiades_mystery]

25. ROFL! True!

Could you imagine the fucking bellowing!?!

[riversedge]

29. It would have been a large scale Apocalypse IMHO

[stonecutter357]

33. K&R!

[phleshdef]

34. This Bernie supporter would give her the same benefit of the doubt I give her on the email BS.

And wait for the facts to come out, develop a real understanding of what happened and not try to use it as a cheap political attack.

[MohRokTah]

35. Hell, the media would have painted it as the end of her campaign and called for criminal...

investigations.

[highprincipleswork]

38. Bullshit. Yawn. There's much greater issues to solve, such as too few debates.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

41. Right up there with discoverying that one of her employees didn't shower a week ago.

[Douglas Carpenter]

44. What would NOT have happened? Is that not the real question? What would NOT

have happened is that Debbie Wasserman Schultz would NOT have suspended Hillary's campaign from the data access

We probably would not have heard about this incident except, maybe on a few obscure Internet sites.

Just how slimy the DNC's action are is going to shock and wake up a lot of people. The defense of this sliminess on this forum should make anyone horrified.

[marble falls]

45. Not a freaking thing, she'd stonewall it.

[ismnotwasm]

47. Full on Melt down Zombie Apocalypse!

Exploded brains everywhere!

[Skwmom]

48. How do we know they didn't? n/t

[fredamae]

49. We likely would never

hear about it.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/12/18/1461498/-Charlie-Pierce-asks-right-question-Why-did-DNC-leak-the-story?detail=facebook

[Motown_Johnny]

50. Very little

There are already so many scandals this one would be lost in the crowd.

[jfern]

51. Negative infinity

[BlueJazz]

52. I would have the same response either way. No big deal. I say this and feel that way simply..

...because the republicans lie, cheat and steal so much that what either Hillary or Sanders has done (or probably) will do, is so minor as to be one-big-yawn.
When Hillary was having the "Servergate" I kept thinking...."Ok..what's for supper?"

[vorgan24]

53. It is a rather intresting comparison no?

Hillary is using a legal email server and Sanders supporters attacks her over it, echoing Republican sentiments and giving quasi-support to their tax-dollar wasting witch hunt - A witch hunt, that I might add, that one of the head Republicans for the investigation admitted was mainly to make her look bad this election.

Sanders camp accessed HRC data, Sanders supporters go "Hey, no! Don't pay attention to this! Look at how many laws Hillary broke with her email server! We've got bipartisan support on this, we're not the only ones who believe this, she MUST have done SOMETHING wrong!!!"

I'm also loving how quick a few were to jump to conspiracy theories, saying that Mrs. Clinton pulled some strings, or something, to set the Sanders campaign up.

In any event, we already know what would happen if it was the HRC camp that did the data breach - We'd get a repeat of the faux worthy email 'scandal'. Given that we've already got some conspiracy theories floating around about this case being a setup, I wouldn't be surprised if someone did the mental gymnastics necessary to say that she set herself up for something something whatever.

[Jester Messiah]

54. What, again? [nt]

[Jim Lane]

55. Maybe one of her staffers would have taken the Fifth.

Again.

[uponit7771]

56. World War 19

[mhatrw]

57. Nothing. She already has all the data through the DNC's administration rights.

What happened when she got the DNC to rig the debate schedule for her?

Nothing.

[JaneyVee]

58. Pretty heavy accusation. Care to back it up?

[McCamy Taylor]

59. Drudge posted a pic of Obama in a dress--and claimed Hillary made him.

And all the Clinton-o-phobes made it a HUGE deal, blaming her and not Drudge.

So, yeah, if the shoe was on the other foot, they would be getting their pitchforks ready--and blaming her for making them hate her so much.