Sat Dec 19, 2015, 02:17 PM

Debbie Wasserman-Schultz did not go to law enforcement, she went to the press

All you need to do to tell that the allegations against Bernie's campaign are partisan smears is take a look at how Debbie Wasserman-Schultz has handled the situation.

If Bernie's campaign was really involved in illegal activity then it was Debbie Wasserman-Schultz's duty to report that to law enforcement, but instead of going to law enforcement she went to the press.

What does that tell you?

It tells me that this is a political smear job and not a real attempt to get to the facts.

So far we have not received information on this from ANY neutral parties. We have only heard from the DNC, the IT company, and the response of the Sanders campaign.

Not a single neutral person has provided information about this case, not a single law enforcement agency has spoken, we are just supposed to believe Bernie's campaign was involved in criminal activity because Debbie Wasserman-Schultz launched a smear campaign to imply that.

Bernie's campaign was willing to go to Federal Court and present evidence under oath. I don't think a campaign that was trying to cover up a crime would do that.

I am far more suspicious of someone who goes to the press before contacting law enforcement than I am of a campaign that shows a willingness to present evidence under oath.

Debbie Wasserman-Schultz needs to resign. Now.

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Debbie Wasserman-Schultz did not go to law enforcement, she went to the press (Original post)	Bjorn Against	Dec 2015	OP
I've seen no evidence of a crime. It was a hill shill hit job.	morningfog	Dec 2015	#1
+1000	Segami	Dec 2015	#30
And just before a presidential debate	FreakinDJ	Dec 2015	#82
+1. The point was to move the dial on Bernie's "trustworthy" numbers.	winter is coming	Dec 2015	#43
Bingo!	Segami	Dec 2015	#51
That was my first thought.	Enthusiast	Dec 2015	#69
all the trust DWS has lost will start to translate into declining trust in Clinton...	Betty Karlson	Dec 2015	#84
DWS & HRC are now eternally joined at the hip.	Segami	Dec 2015	#87
Clinton can always be trusted to do the right thing -	Betty Karlson	Dec 2015	#122
That's my take on it too. They hate the fact that the man	azmom	Dec 2015	#63
I'm thoroughly disgusted with her.	Fantastic Anarchist	Dec 2015	#85
Why did Sanders fire people and apologize?	Renew Deal	Dec 2015	#126
Post removed	Post removed	Dec 2015	#2
The nice thing about the legal process is it dispense with a lot of bullshit.	highprincipleswork	Dec 2015	#7
You will get your wish according to some sources.	Karma13612	Dec 2015	#33
I'll be having chocolate mint covered grahm cracker cookies	notadmblnd	Dec 2015	#55
Homemade Recipe?	PADemD	Dec 2015	#92
No the pharmacy hands out gift wrapped boxes every Xmas when you get your prescriptions filled	notadmblnd	Dec 2015	#95
too funny!!! love your user name! eom	Karma13612	Dec 2015	#130
Thanks, I think I've had this screen name since WINDOZE 95 was out.	notadmblnd	Dec 2015	#135
Oh those sound absolutely yummy! Have one and nod in my direction! eom	Karma13612	Dec 2015	#94
As soon as the Sander's campaign filed a law suit the DNC backed down.	Warren Stupidity	Dec 2015	#3
The DNC's actions in the face of a court case speak louder than words	Jarqui	Dec 2015	#11
THIS!! +100000	Fawke Em	Dec 2015	#22
you just make too much sense.	dana_b	Dec 2015	#76
A-freakin'-men!	dgibby	Dec 2015	#80
Especially since it was a CLEARLY losing one for the DNC	Scootaloo	Dec 2015	#56
I agree. Looks like the vendor did not secure the data properly.	JDPriestly	Dec 2015	#115
Damn right	katsy	Dec 2015	#4
6 people ran 24 queries on HRC's data, saved results	Gman	Dec 2015	#5
If a crime was committed why did the DNC go to the press instead of to law enforcement?	Bjorn Against	Dec 2015	#6
Because this was all about politics and public perception, not law n/t	Fumesucker	Dec 2015	#8
Exactly, but I don't think that public perception thing worked out quite the way they intended it to	Bjorn Against	Dec 2015	#9
My impression of the DNC and DWS	Fumesucker	Dec 2015	#10
.seriously. Nt	Voice for Peace	Dec 2015	#13
Precisely.	senz	Dec 2015	#17
There is no allegation that Sanders campaign broke or hacked Hillary's data but rather that	JDPriestly	Dec 2015	#117
And why would Bernie	floriduck	Dec 2015	#73
Because this is all in the family . And they seem to be the adults. It's bad enough....	PosterChild	Dec 2015	#100
The claim that results were saved is in dispute.	concreteblue	Dec 2015	#18
Have you seen what they named the queries?	Fawke Em	Dec 2015	#31
Everybody's fault BUT the Sanders campaign	Gman	Dec 2015	#66
Well, as I'm sure you know by now,	dgibby	Dec 2015	#81
Doesn't rule out a screen capture and then OCR	Gman	Dec 2015	#83
What you are saying is beyond ridiculous.	BeanMusical	Dec 2015	#98
Really?	Gman	Dec 2015	#101
Really.	BeanMusical	Dec 2015	#102
Bernghazi!!!!!1	cui bono	Dec 2015	#112
They were probing the vulnerability of the data they should not be accessing	Samantha	Dec 2015	#74
Thanks for that info. I'm just getting caught up with this and it was very helpful.	cui bono	Dec 2015	#113
You are welcome - this is going to be one of those deals you have follow closely for the duration	Samantha	Dec 2015	#119
Thanks Fawke Em!!!	Fed up in NJ	Dec 2015	#104
Thank you.	JDPriestly	Dec 2015	#118
They even set up two new accounts in order to access more data.	George II	Dec 2015	#97
Or to test....	Delver Rootnose	Dec 2015	#128
Bottom line, a day later now, and Sanders apologized - APOLOGIZED PUBLICLY! If it was.....	George II	Dec 2015	#133
The vendor did not properly protect the security of the data.	JDPriestly	Dec 2015	#116
The vender did not make them access data	Gman	Dec 2015	#131
very true. But, the news media is keeping it very vague and UN-	Karma13612	Dec 2015	#132
From whence comes that information?	chervilant	Dec 2015	#136
Dunno, she looked pretty damn good last night	Gman	Dec 2015	#138
Duty? The only duties DWS has is getting Hillary elected and making sure other Democrats lose.	Scuba	Dec 2015	#12
She has a good track record	awoke_in_2003	Dec 2015	#27
Maybe because she's really trying to help the other party win?	erronis	Dec 2015	#37
Yep	awoke_in_2003	Dec 2015	#46
Not Hillary.	Scootaloo	Dec 2015	#58
Oh, I'm sure Hillary is exactly the kind of politician DWS wants to see win elections.	Scuba	Dec 2015	#71
I'm not entirely sold that clinton wants ot be that politician, though	Scootaloo	Dec 2015	#72
Thank You For Sharing These Truths	cantbeserious	Dec 2015	#14
She's a hack and she serves a hack	senz	Dec 2015	#15
I agree in the strongest terms.	avaistheone1	Dec 2015	#61
Huge +1!	Enthusiast	Dec 2015	#70
Kicked and recommended.	Uncle Joe	Dec 2015	#16
Message auto-removed	Name removed	Dec 2015	#19
Why did she go to the press without doing an audit?	Bjorn Against	Dec 2015	#23
Message auto-removed	Name removed	Dec 2015	#28
The audit probably won't be complete until Dec. 2016.	Fuddnik	Dec 2015	#25
And it's also a self-audit.	Fawke Em	Dec 2015	#45
Wouldn't that be for the courts to decide? How can they judge something if it is not reported?	Hiraeth	Dec 2015	#35
I also know they didn't hire a third party security company to gather info, either.	Fawke Em	Dec 2015	#20
Yeah - and includes the some of the same people that helped SOS Hil set up her "private" server	erronis	Dec 2015	#41
Thank you. K&R	Hiraeth	Dec 2015	#21
Of course she went to the press. This was a hit job carried out for Hillary Rodham Fucking Clinton.	Still In Wisconsin	Dec 2015	#24
Message auto-removed	Name removed	Dec 2015	#29
We can't help you if you don't want to see it.	Fawke Em	Dec 2015	#48
heavens, I didn't know about	Karma13612	Dec 2015	#62
did you know:	Karma13612	Dec 2015	#60
thank you for posting this info.	hopemountain	Dec 2015	#114
same here. eom #FeeltheBern	Karma13612	Dec 2015	#129
Hey, come on. That was not nice. It was Bill that carried that tag. We don't know about Hil.	erronis	Dec 2015	#42
Excellent point. DWS does indeed need to resign before she	jwirr	Dec 2015	#26
Not a single "Neutral" person	NowSam	Dec 2015	#32
Are you sure Clinton hasn't gone to the FBI?	NCTraveler	Dec 2015	#34
I heard she ate the FBI for lunch.	Hiraeth	Dec 2015	#38
If she had then I would hope she would give them time to investigate before running to the press.	Bjorn Against	Dec 2015	#39
Sanders fired an aide. So much more was to be known anyway.	NCTraveler	Dec 2015	#44
Just because a person got fired does not mean that person committed a crime	Bjorn Against	Dec 2015	#47
Please show where I said it did.	NCTraveler	Dec 2015	#49
I'm going to guess, "no."	Fawke Em	Dec 2015	#50
If she had	Cassiopeia	Dec 2015	#53
why were they having a fund raiser for her? I didn't know FBI salaries were generous	azurnoir	Dec 2015	#65
Expect Hillary to go into high dudgeon tonight	senz	Dec 2015	#36
k+r	Attorney in Texas	Dec 2015	#40
Victimhood is so sweet!	redstateblues	Dec 2015	#57
Anger fuels the Sanders campaign.	AlbertCat	Dec 2015	#109
I'm not aware if anything has changed since last night	notadmblnd	Dec 2015	#52
How telling. nt	retrowire	Dec 2015	#54
K&R!	Duval	Dec 2015	#59
Was a law broken? This all seems to be an internal political party matter.	randome	Dec 2015	#64
Kicked and recommended! What does that tell you?	Enthusiast	Dec 2015	#67
Exactly why the press - hmmmm	azurnoir	Dec 2015	#68
Maybe to let the public know the truth before the Bernie Sanders fanatics	moobu2	Dec 2015	#75
ah ya that's it of course why didn't I think of that	azurnoir	Dec 2015	#77
There's still an ongoing investigation.	moobu2	Dec 2015	#78
if a crime was committed	DonCoquixote	Dec 2015	#79
She really is trying to throw the nomination	MissDeeds	Dec 2015	#86
I don't think ANYONE involved has called it a crime.	thesquanderer	Dec 2015	#88
Right. Because every time there is political infighting, the cops are called.	randome	Dec 2015	#89
+ whatever number > than 0. Silly OP	MeNMyVolt	Dec 2015	#91
There's no crime.	treestar	Dec 2015	#90
DWS is truly	zentrum	Dec 2015	#93
Just as she did in 2008. She bypassed Dean's DNC, took gripes straight to media.	madfloridian	Dec 2015	#96
HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!!	WillyT	Dec 2015	#99
If she didn't go to the press she would've been accused of secrecy. If she went to the cops....	Hekate	Dec 2015	#103
It tells me that Wasserman-Schultz CAN BE ACCUSED of a political smear job	rocktivity	Dec 2015	#105
Debbie Downer has brought the Democratic Party to a new low, time to go!	Dont call me Shirley	Dec 2015	#106
It speaks volumes about DWS and Hillary.	jalan48	Dec 2015	#107
This scandal has close to zero to do with Sanders.	PufPuf23	Dec 2015	#108
And what's the most important thing we've learned from this:	AlbertCat	Dec 2015	#110
Not only is this disgusting...	MrMickeysMom	Dec 2015	#111
DWS should go!	burrowowl	Dec 2015	#120
It tells me that she's smart...	NurseJackie	Dec 2015	#121
WOW, that's your take?	SmittynMo	Dec 2015	#123
Yes. I wouldn't have said it otherwise.	NurseJackie	Dec 2015	#125
They settled before a lawsuit could be heard.....	Delver Rootnose	Dec 2015	#124
You should be thankful it wasn't taken to the FBI.	Renew Deal	Dec 2015	#127
Oh, you're right. We should be real quiet now so the FBI won't find out ...	JustABozoOnThisBus	Dec 2015	#139
Who's alleging criminal law was broke, OP sounds like a strawman	uponit7771	Dec 2015	#134
Kick	BeanMusical	Dec 2015	#137

Response to Bjorn Against (Original post)

Sat Dec 19, 2015, 02:19 PM

morningfog (18,115 posts)

Debbie Wasserman-Schultz did not go to law enforcement, she went to the press

1. I've seen no evidence of a crime. It was a hill shill hit job.

30. +1000

82. And just before a presidential debate

43. +1. The point was to move the dial on Bernie's "trustworthy" numbers.

51. Bingo!

69. That was my first thought.

84. all the trust DWS has lost will start to translate into declining trust in Clinton...

87. DWS & HRC are now eternally joined at the hip.

122. Clinton can always be trusted to do the right thing -

63. That's my take on it too. They hate the fact that the man

85. I'm thoroughly disgusted with her.

126. Why did Sanders fire people and apologize?

7. The nice thing about the legal process is it dispense with a lot of bullshit.

33. You will get your wish according to some sources.

55. I'll be having chocolate mint covered grahm cracker cookies

92. Homemade Recipe?

95. No the pharmacy hands out gift wrapped boxes every Xmas when you get your prescriptions filled

130. too funny!!! love your user name! eom

135. Thanks, I think I've had this screen name since WINDOZE 95 was out.

94. Oh those sound absolutely yummy! Have one and nod in my direction! eom

3. As soon as the Sander's campaign filed a law suit the DNC backed down.

11. The DNC's actions in the face of a court case speak louder than words

22. THIS!! +100000

76. you just make too much sense.

80. A-freakin'-men!

56. Especially since it was a CLEARLY losing one for the DNC

115. I agree. Looks like the vendor did not secure the data properly.

4. Damn right

5. 6 people ran 24 queries on HRC's data, saved results

6. If a crime was committed why did the DNC go to the press instead of to law enforcement?

8. Because this was all about politics and public perception, not law n/t

9. Exactly, but I don't think that public perception thing worked out quite the way they intended it to

10. My impression of the DNC and DWS

13. .seriously. Nt

17. Precisely.

117. There is no allegation that Sanders campaign broke or hacked Hillary's data but rather that

73. And why would Bernie

100. Because this is all in the family . And they seem to be the adults. It's bad enough....

18. The claim that results were saved is in dispute.

31. Have you seen what they named the queries?

66. Everybody's fault BUT the Sanders campaign

81. Well, as I'm sure you know by now,

83. Doesn't rule out a screen capture and then OCR

98. What you are saying is beyond ridiculous.

101. Really?

102. Really.

112. Bernghazi!!!!!1

74. They were probing the vulnerability of the data they should not be accessing

113. Thanks for that info. I'm just getting caught up with this and it was very helpful.

119. You are welcome - this is going to be one of those deals you have follow closely for the duration

104. Thanks Fawke Em!!!

118. Thank you.

97. They even set up two new accounts in order to access more data.

128. Or to test....

133. Bottom line, a day later now, and Sanders apologized - APOLOGIZED PUBLICLY! If it was.....

116. The vendor did not properly protect the security of the data.

131. The vender did not make them access data

132. very true. But, the news media is keeping it very vague and UN-

136. From whence comes that information?

138. Dunno, she looked pretty damn good last night

12. Duty? The only duties DWS has is getting Hillary elected and making sure other Democrats lose.

27. She has a good track record

37. Maybe because she's really trying to help the other party win?

46. Yep

58. Not Hillary.

71. Oh, I'm sure Hillary is exactly the kind of politician DWS wants to see win elections.

72. I'm not entirely sold that clinton wants ot be that politician, though

14. Thank You For Sharing These Truths

15. She's a hack and she serves a hack

61. I agree in the strongest terms.

70. Huge +1!

16. Kicked and recommended.

23. Why did she go to the press without doing an audit?

25. The audit probably won't be complete until Dec. 2016.

45. And it's also a self-audit.

35. Wouldn't that be for the courts to decide? How can they judge something if it is not reported?

20. I also know they didn't hire a third party security company to gather info, either.

41. Yeah - and includes the some of the same people that helped SOS Hil set up her "private" server

21. Thank you. K&R