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whereisjustice

(2,941 posts)
Sun Dec 20, 2015, 02:01 PM Dec 2015

Hillary is very confused about technology. It can be challenging, but also important for economic

development and quality of life.

Hillary should have learned by now that that poor management of tech resources (even something simple like email) can cause political and economic difficulties for the middle class and below.

That's why it's NOT a good idea to send every fucking tech job to India, China and Vietnam.

I don't trust her to do the right thing as far as technology, jobs and the profits being held tax-free, overseas.

She seems clumsy and awkward on maintaining US competitiveness in the areas of economic development and progress for the middle class and below.

We can't continue to outsource our way to economic justice.

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Hillary is very confused about technology. It can be challenging, but also important for economic (Original Post) whereisjustice Dec 2015 OP
HRC Is A Pawn Of the Oligarchs, Corporations And Banks That Pay For Her Campaign cantbeserious Dec 2015 #1
Just curious Dem2 Dec 2015 #4
Oligarchs, Corporations And Banks Is A Succinct Expression For The Owners Of America cantbeserious Dec 2015 #6
More made up bull shit upaloopa Dec 2015 #2
Not made up... RoccoR5955 Dec 2015 #8
And Bernie is a tech master? LOL. JaneyVee Dec 2015 #9
does that lessen the fact that she is not tech savy pennylane100 Dec 2015 #13
What bullshit RoccoR5955 Dec 2015 #17
She did at least admit she didn't know the technology mythology Dec 2015 #15
She as been calling for a back door into communications for a while now RoccoR5955 Dec 2015 #18
Don't count on it. RoccoR5955 Dec 2015 #22
Maybe she can wipe the dumb look off her face with the same cloth she uses to wipe her server. Scuba Dec 2015 #3
Very mature Dem2 Dec 2015 #5
Or perhaps the cloth she wiped the floor with Bernie with. JaneyVee Dec 2015 #11
:-D NurseJackie Dec 2015 #12
Oh FFS! leftofcool Dec 2015 #7
Personally, I would rather the people she hires attend. nt artislife Dec 2015 #10
I'd rather she know her limitations Scootaloo Dec 2015 #14
I think more politicians should acknowledge they know very little about the ins and riversedge Dec 2015 #21
She's demanding that Silicon Valley stop encryption and she wants the internet censored. Warren DeMontague Dec 2015 #16
She wants to work with the big tech companies to help with riversedge Dec 2015 #19
right, her biggest priority is a "manhattan project" to do what the people who actually know what Warren DeMontague Dec 2015 #23
If you make crypto illegal, only criminals will have crypto. RoccoR5955 Dec 2015 #20

cantbeserious

(13,039 posts)
1. HRC Is A Pawn Of the Oligarchs, Corporations And Banks That Pay For Her Campaign
Sun Dec 20, 2015, 02:04 PM
Dec 2015

She will continue to do their bidding.

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
2. More made up bull shit
Sun Dec 20, 2015, 02:06 PM
Dec 2015

Hillary is this Hillary is that yada yada yada


Almost 1 month to the primaries. IA is ours. SC is ours NV is ours Super Tuesday is ours. You can have NH

 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
8. Not made up...
Sun Dec 20, 2015, 02:37 PM
Dec 2015

In her comments about encryption at the debate, I can tell that she is clueless to the technology. She thinks that they can just insert a back door into the encryption algorithms, to let only the good guys in. This works two ways. If you build a back door into ANY software, not only can the folks you want get into the software, but those who you don't want will eventually break in. I know this having 26 years experience in the tech field. I have seen this over the years. I have also seen over the years that I do not believe that there is one politician who has any clue as to how the technology works. It is simply not in their areas of expertise.

pennylane100

(3,425 posts)
13. does that lessen the fact that she is not tech savy
Sun Dec 20, 2015, 03:28 PM
Dec 2015

I do not know the level of Bernie's IT knowledge. Regardless, he did not try to answer any tech questions incorrectly. If he not have a thorough knowledge of all things tech, he is smart enough not to pretend he does.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
15. She did at least admit she didn't know the technology
Sun Dec 20, 2015, 04:46 PM
Dec 2015

Hopefully That means once it is explained that what law enforcement wants isn't possible it will stop.

 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
18. She as been calling for a back door into communications for a while now
Sun Dec 20, 2015, 05:16 PM
Dec 2015

Which is what I explained. So I guess I can presume that you don't know squat about the technology, just like Queen Hill I.

 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
22. Don't count on it.
Sun Dec 20, 2015, 05:20 PM
Dec 2015

We in the tech sector have been telling them for ages, and they STILL do not listen. They want their way ONLY.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
14. I'd rather she know her limitations
Sun Dec 20, 2015, 03:31 PM
Dec 2015

Last night she srood on stage and gave us a lump of technobabble that she clearly didn't know heads or tails about - she even said so. I'm like, okay that's fine, tech is a complicated subject and her expertise lies elsewhere. But that being the case... just say something like "I will have the best and brightest in the field on this issue" instead of trying to sound like she will personally be encrypting her mainframe databases at all the IP ports until the failsafes are all routed into the RAM drive.

It's not among the reasons I won't vote for her in the primary, but it did make my head hurt. She doesn't have to be some sort of polymath superhero or something. Hillary, staaaahp

riversedge

(70,204 posts)
21. I think more politicians should acknowledge they know very little about the ins and
Sun Dec 20, 2015, 05:19 PM
Dec 2015

outs of technology--or how encryption actually works. She wants the Government to work with the technology firms to help with the IS problem.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
16. She's demanding that Silicon Valley stop encryption and she wants the internet censored.
Sun Dec 20, 2015, 04:58 PM
Dec 2015

So she's sort of taking it upon herself to be something of a tech expert.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
23. right, her biggest priority is a "manhattan project" to do what the people who actually know what
Sun Dec 20, 2015, 05:49 PM
Dec 2015

they're talking about, say is impossible mathematically.

You can't "tweak" encryption without weakening it or putting in a backdoor. If she wants to "work with The Big Tech Companies" she should actually talk to them first, because they're all saying the same thing.

When I consider the issues which are worth our collective "manhattan project" energies, I think, hmm.. fusion? Finding non-polluting means to power our planetary civilization? How about stopping cancer? Putting a human being on Mars, even.

But keeping people from sending encrypted snapchats to each other? That's the only way we're going to "stop terra", bull-fucking-shit.

And let's get real for half a fucking second, shall we? When Law Enforcement complains that they need these "vital tools" to "keep us safe" and they get them, what happens? We find out, invariably, that the "vital terror stopping tools" get used for the same old law enforcement purposes, namely, for the most part arresting nonviolent drug offenders.

That's what happened with the Patriot Act, remember?

http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2014/10/patriot-act-warrants-used-more-drugs-terrorism



So, great, let's have a "manhattan project" and "work with the big tech companies" to make it easier for cops to search peoples iphones for pictures of them smoking a bong, so they can be arrested for getting high. Yay.

 

RoccoR5955

(12,471 posts)
20. If you make crypto illegal, only criminals will have crypto.
Sun Dec 20, 2015, 05:18 PM
Dec 2015

If you censor the Internet, we will create another network within the Internet that is encrypted, that you cannot access, that shall not be censored. You can mark my words as a grey hat hacker on that!

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