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Bjorn Against

(12,041 posts)
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 07:11 PM Dec 2015

Millennials have gotten royally screwed: That's why they're voting for Bernie Sanders


Millennials have gotten royally screwed: That’s why they’re voting for Bernie Sanders
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In recent years, it seems like a cottage industry of sorts has formed around bashing the Millennial generation as a bunch of narcissistic, lazy, entitled, coddled, uninformed digital junkies who just can’t deal with the real world. Though older generations have always complained about youngsters being in trouble, this animus towards Millennials seems rather unique, especially because, well, Millennials are rather unique.

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With all that hate, it’s easy to forget sometimes that the Millennial generation is also the one that faces staggering levels of debt, a bleak job market (even when one does get a college degree, which has become ever more important), and the overall prospect of having a less prosperous future than one’s parents. While today’s 18 to 34 year olds are the best-educated generation in American history — 22.3 percent with a bachelor’s degree — they also have lower median earnings (inflation adjusted) than 18 to 34 year olds did in 1980, when just 15.7 percent had a bachelor’s degree. Furthermore, becoming the best-educated generation has made Millennials the most indebted generation. Back in 1993, while the oldest Millennials were busy playing Sega Genesis, the average debt per borrower in the graduating class was under $10,000; by 2015, that number had more than tripled to about $35,000 — earning the class of 2015 the honor of being the most indebted ever.

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So then, is it any wonder that Millennials — especially those who are currently in college or recently graduated, who happened to grow up during the biggest economic downturn in nearly a century and witnessed how the greed of a few could hurt an entire society — are the biggest supporters of Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt)? Millennials have inherited an inherently unfair economy and corrupt political system that is a result of nearly four decades of a neoliberal consensus. Or to put it a bit more crudely: Neoliberalism has screwed the Millennial generation. And Sanders is the antithesis of a neoliberal.

The latest poll from the Harvard University Institute of Politics found that Sanders, who trails Clinton overall by about 25 points, actually leads her 41 percent to 35 percent among Democrats aged 18 to 29. It also found that the term “Democratic Socialist” has, if anything, a positive connotation among this age group — 66 percent said the label makes “no difference,” 24 percent said it would make them “more likely” to support Sanders, and only 9 percent said “less likely.” This seems to back up past polls that have shown Millennials reacting slightly more positively to the word “socialism” than “capitalism.”


http://www.salon.com/2015/12/21/millennials_have_gotten_royally_screwed_thats_why_theyre_voting_for_bernie_sanders/

It is time to stop insulting millenials and start reaching out to them. I have heard far too many people decry the low voter turnout numbers among young people without taking the time to consider why they are not showing up. The reality is that many millenials do not vote because they don't feel the establishment politicians represent them and it is time to start listening to those millenials and find leaders like Bernie who do stand for the issues that are important to them.

The best way to build a progressive movement is to mobilize millenials and I am very proud of Bernie for his efforts to reach out to this demographic that is too often ridiculed or ignored.
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Millennials have gotten royally screwed: That's why they're voting for Bernie Sanders (Original Post) Bjorn Against Dec 2015 OP
I just received a PM spewing ageist bigotry against millenials Bjorn Against Dec 2015 #1
Wow 840high Dec 2015 #3
Well, that's not surprising. Chan790 Dec 2015 #5
Kick bigwillq Dec 2015 #11
Well, at least she admitted The Clinton's are REPUBLICANS! in_cog_ni_to Dec 2015 #12
Every nasty PM they send, needs to be posted in GDP. They need to be exposed. in_cog_ni_to Dec 2015 #14
She harassed me serially for a while as well. nt Bonobo Dec 2015 #20
I'm an old Gen Xer and I'm sick of anti-Millennial propaganda. Arugula Latte Dec 2015 #2
Agreed! kenfrequed Dec 2015 #17
Gen-X'er here. The Boss Dec 2015 #18
So the author argues that Obama is bad for young people? Forrage Dec 2015 #4
Did you read the article? Bjorn Against Dec 2015 #6
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2015 #8
Nobody has said that the President has no control over a broken system Bjorn Against Dec 2015 #9
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2015 #10
Well... kenfrequed Dec 2015 #19
Aren't they tied with millennials? JaneyVee Dec 2015 #7
The establishment doesn't care about Millennials. They are taken for granted, or they Betty Karlson Dec 2015 #13
Young people don't vote... Sancho Dec 2015 #15
I have a 21 year old daughter and she has voted before. This generation is unlike any before it. liberal_at_heart Dec 2015 #16

Bjorn Against

(12,041 posts)
1. I just received a PM spewing ageist bigotry against millenials
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 07:34 PM
Dec 2015

I have told Vanilla Rhapsody numerous times not to send messages to my personal inbox, but she really likes harassing me. Instead of ignoring her however I am going to post the text of the message she sent me so everyone can see the contempt towards the millenial generation that exists on this site...

Millenials got screwwed?
Fuck that. ...those of us who hit 40 during the Bush years are who got screwwed over.....and unlike Millenials.....we donthave time to make up that time or money.....

And by the way. ...We are votingvfor Clinton because the most wealth we saw in our lifetimes were under Her Husband.. and he IS a moderate Republican......she is far to HIS Left....and 2....we want to win.....unlike millenials....we remember what its like under Republicans Reagan Bush and Bush II.......we want to win.....and we know...his policies wouldnt fly even if he did win....which is highly doubtful...

So no.....Milleniala have no fucking idea how bad it can get.


If you want to see bigotry against young people just read the words of Vanilla Rhapsody, a person who completely dismisses the challenges young people face.

And before the inevitable alert comes in accusing me of posting a "private" message, I have repeatedly told this person not to message me and I sure as hell never promised them privacy if they continued to harrass me after repeatedly telling them to stop. If this person continues to harrass me then I am going to do whatever I want to do with their messages, there should be no expectation of the right to harrass in privacy.
 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
5. Well, that's not surprising.
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 07:48 PM
Dec 2015

I've long said that if one hates their children and wants to fuck over America for future generations they should vote for center-right fake Democrats like Hillary...and it seems that is precisely what Vanilla Rhapsody is committed to doing. I just wish more Hillary supporters were so honest and upfront about being delusional and selfish in their ranting statements of support for Clinton...it would make them easier to drive down and drive Hillary out of this race.

in_cog_ni_to

(41,600 posts)
12. Well, at least she admitted The Clinton's are REPUBLICANS!
Tue Dec 22, 2015, 09:09 AM
Dec 2015
We are votingvfor Clinton because the most wealth we saw in our lifetimes were under Her Husband.. and he IS a moderate Republican......she is far to HIS Left

Bill's a MODERATE REPUBLICAN and his wife is far to his Left, makes HER a REPUBLICAN TOO - FINALLY, they admit the OBVIOUS!

It's always nice to have our views validated.

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

in_cog_ni_to

(41,600 posts)
14. Every nasty PM they send, needs to be posted in GDP. They need to be exposed.
Tue Dec 22, 2015, 09:17 AM
Dec 2015

Now we know they support the Clintons BECAUSE they're REPUBLICANS. We BERNIE supporters knew it, and now because of that PM, it's been exposed to EVERYONE.

THIRD WAY NEEDS TO GO! The Clintons destroyed the once great Democratic Party.

PEACE
LOVE
BERNIE

 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
2. I'm an old Gen Xer and I'm sick of anti-Millennial propaganda.
Mon Dec 21, 2015, 07:38 PM
Dec 2015

Their generation is much better than my own Reagan Youth generation.

I know some 20-somethings and they are cool and smart and liberal and can spot b.s. in many forms.

kenfrequed

(7,865 posts)
17. Agreed!
Tue Dec 22, 2015, 09:30 AM
Dec 2015

I am also of Generation X and my generation annoys me for the same reasons. Too many goddamned Republicans that aren't savvy enough to see through blatant propaganda.

Response to Bjorn Against (Reply #6)

Bjorn Against

(12,041 posts)
9. Nobody has said that the President has no control over a broken system
Tue Dec 22, 2015, 12:42 AM
Dec 2015

The President does have some control, but the President is not a dictator and he does not have total control. I don't know why you want to pretend this article is focused on Obama, anyone who reads it can see that it is about something much bigger than Obama.

Response to Bjorn Against (Reply #9)

kenfrequed

(7,865 posts)
19. Well...
Tue Dec 22, 2015, 10:23 AM
Dec 2015

He was hamstrung his first two years by a lot of left over triangulators that ended up in his administration that were friendly with banksters. Geithner and Summer were really good for arguing against and trying to work against a lot of the progressive change he wanted to enact.

Rahm Emmanuel was another big mistake for COS. I have no idea why anyone that putting him there was a good idea because he was critical in squandering a lot of progressive energy that could have been yoked to standing up for a lot of policy initiatives.

The entire blue dog subcaucus also completely misread the political landscape. They thought it was the 1990's all over again and the republicans would just cede power back to that point which allowed conservative democrats to stand in the middle of the scales and manage everything. They never had it in their heads that after years of Bush that the Republicans didn't want anything to change back.

The fact that the blue dogs kept providing fillibuster cover for republicans should have been evidence of that. None of them seemed to identify that the Republicans were overusing the fillibuster and other tricks like anonymous holds at rates that were record breaking levels.

 

Betty Karlson

(7,231 posts)
13. The establishment doesn't care about Millennials. They are taken for granted, or they
Tue Dec 22, 2015, 09:16 AM
Dec 2015

are called "pony-wanters", "purists" and "not living in reality".

So the millennials don't care for the establishment, even the establishment with a D behind its name. Are you surprised?

liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
16. I have a 21 year old daughter and she has voted before. This generation is unlike any before it.
Tue Dec 22, 2015, 09:26 AM
Dec 2015

Their daily life is actually being affected by political policy unlike previous generations. In previous generations, parents have been able to assist children with college tuition and paying rent and other bills even if they had to take out home equity lines of credit to do it. Now parents have no way of financially helping their kids. The only help they can offer them help is letting them live at home with them which the kids of this generation have had to do. Millennials are taking on piles of debt and only being offered part time low wage jobs which will never pay off that debt. These kids know what is going on and they are pissed.

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