2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forum"The Oligopolization of America" Corporatism Clearly Described In HRC MSM Pump Vs Bernie Blackout!
It is the Engineered Distraction of Shiny Objects such as Foreign Policy and Terrorism in contrast to the failure to address the issues MOST Important to MOST Americans such as Affordable Access to Quality Health Care, Income and Wealth Inequality, Access to Quality Education
The Essential Media Blackout of Bernie Sanders while Hillary Clinton has been "pumped" along with Trump represent The Means of Sustaining These Paradigms through the "Purchase" of Candidates who will Ensure their Continuation...
As America enters a new Presidential era.
Paradigms are preserved through the "Corporate Coddling" of certain politicians who are reliable in their support and advocacy of The Corporation's required objectives necessary to preserve said paradigms i.e., The Status Quo in return for all of that Corporate CA$H.
http://observer.com/2015/12/bernie-sanders-vs-the-military-medical-wall-street-political-industrial-complex/
The Observer Brent Budowsky
"America today faces a grave and imminent danger of becoming an oligarchy ruled by a handful of individuals possessing and wielding vast sums of money to seize control of an interlocking directorate of American politics, American business and American media in ways that have nothing in common with the democratic dream envisioned by Washington, Jefferson, Madison and Adams.
My Opinion... NEWSFLASH... THE TRANSFORMATION IS NEARLY COMPLETE!
What is most striking, fascinating and profound about the Bernie Sanders campaignand the workers and small donors who are rallying to his causeis the degree that he, and they, are battling against the oligopolization of America across the landscape of American politics and the American economy.
The lead story in The New York Times is titled: For the Wealthiest, a Private Tax System That Saves Them Billions. Mr. Sanders could not have said it better." SNIP

smiley
(1,432 posts)He's the first politician I've ever donated to and I will continue .
If he doesn't win I'm off to Mexico.
smiley
(1,432 posts)not the Mexico part, but that's not a bad idea
CorporatistNation
(2,546 posts)Brent Budowsky.... "Doing a Niceee Job Brent!


"The month is ending, and the quarter is ending, and that means it is time for the next quarterly presidential campaign fundraising reports to be released. I predict that, within days, we'll learn that the Bernie Sanders campaign has achieved yet another new surge in the number of small donors and the amount of money raised from those donors will again stun and amaze the political world.
It seems that almost every major campaign event brings more small donors to the Sanders campaign and more money raised from those small donors.
Even when Sen. Sanders (I-Vt.) is under attack from the Hillary Clinton-biased Democratic National Committee, the result is another explosion of small donations to his campaign." SNIP
TODAY IS A BIGGGG AND IMPORTANT DAY TO DONATE TO BERNIE SANDERS... JUST DO IT!
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)kristopher
(29,798 posts)I assume you won't mind if I repost that.
tecelote
(5,143 posts)From the article:
The village idiot can figure out that Ms. Clintons opposition is not unrelated to the considerable degree that Wall Street firms pour millions of dollars into her campaign and to enhance her personal wealth.
Yet, many can not seem to figure this out.
Hillary is not our candidate, she's their candidate.
Time to vote for our own self-interest and elect Bernie to turn America around and make America about Americans, not about corporate profits.
newfie11
(8,159 posts)CorporatistNation
(2,546 posts)!
Proserpina
(2,352 posts)raouldukelives
(5,178 posts)
dlwickham
(3,316 posts)CorporatistNation
(2,546 posts)I guess that is why she has 1/10th the number of people show up to her events?
dlwickham
(3,316 posts)or are you just pulling it out of your ass?
CorporatistNation
(2,546 posts)
CorporatistNation
(2,546 posts)Scuba
(53,475 posts)... for the Telecommunications Act of 1996 which allowed the consolidation of our corporate media.
newfie11
(8,159 posts)The MSM is worthless.
There would be nothing about Bernie if not for the Internet.
CorporatistNation
(2,546 posts)!
newfie11
(8,159 posts)CorporatistNation
(2,546 posts)Bernie Sanders is the ONLY candidate NOT taking the Corporate Offer to do their bidding in return for Campaign CA$H!
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Voted yes on in Congress and a big supporter is Sanders. The F-35 program which Lockheed Martin is the contractor is far over several years budgeted to develop and continues to get more money. So far the plane developed will lose in a dog fight but yet they ask for more money and it happens over and over and now Sanders wants to talk about the military, I hope he can see this overblown program is a big part of money thrown at the military.
newfie11
(8,159 posts)God forbid we rebuild infrastructure in this country, which would add jobs. I won't go on with my rant. It does no good when the American people fall in line like sheeple.
I was 60s protester, my how things have changed.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Replaced and improved by the money which has gone to the F-35 program? Sanders is right there with Lockheed Martin voting more money for a plane they have failed to meet the requirements in the original agreement.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)What would she use to enforce her no-fly zone over Syria? Remember, ISIS air force is not much of the threat.
Clinton voted for the Iraq War Resolution. She is the candidate who would be, based on her record, most likely to waste money on military boondoggles.
Bernie wants to audit our military expenditures.
newfie11
(8,159 posts)Ghost Dog
(16,881 posts)That would be a good place to start...
Then, bring in clean brooms to sweep out the Augean Stables. Re-prioritize, re-assign, set in motion a new 'Tennessee Valley Authority'-type Federal program to develop environmentally- and socially-positive infrastructure and services...
... All by cutting and re-directing enormous waste from such expenditures into economically and socially useful employment opportunities and leaving behind a fitter, more able and more globally-friendly, potentially, military.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Is for excessive military spending? Judging by the excessive military spending on the F-35 program and Sanders saying he will take military action and use drones I can conclude military spending is not a problem with Sanders. Sanders is the candidate based on his voting record most likely the one who goes for wasteful military spending. Lockheed Martin likes corporate welfare.
mhatrw
(10,786 posts)would anybody be left?
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)amount of money a candidate may get from these companies. The F-35 program has been given extensions and more money and more money. Sanders has voted for the extensions and money, lots of infrastructure could have been repaired, replaced and upgraded with just the additional money, now Sanders is interested in auditing the contractors, will he start with Lockheed Martin and the F-35 program? The helmets cost $400,000 a piece.
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)You know as well as I do how deeply enmeshed Clinton is with the MIC, and how it's
apparently pushed her to support dubious foreign interventions; so why even try to
argue otherwise. It's silly.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)putting so much money towards a failing program when he thinks there needs to be financial assistance. Sanders has also said he will use military force and has voted for military action and regime changes, this would make Sanders deeply enmeshed in interventions, no difference here.
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)need links when this subject comes up. You can review the last debate, Sanders was reminded of his ILA vote, it was for regime change.
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)Bernie made ONE questionable 'interventionist' vote; while Hillary has taken many
such positions, ones that are either equally bad (Libya) or much much worse such as Iraq.
The Clinton research team has scoured Sanders' four-decades long record for ANY slight
inconsistency with a 100% progressive 'scorecard', and finds one or two warts. Big fucking deal.
we all know that no candidate is perfect.
One doesn't even need to look very hard to find interventionist hawkish positions Clinton has
taken, both as US Senator and Sec. of State.
It's absurd to suggest "there's no difference" but nice try anyway.
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)than Bernie being pro-MIC. again, I'm not defending it, but since you feign ignorance as
to why Bernie would support this ONE dubious military program, I'll go along, and offer a
link, like you haven't for many of your claims and insinuations.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/lockheed-martin-in-vermont-senator-bernie-sanders-corporate-conundrum/5452106
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)All other spending by other congressional members could use the same excuse the company brings jobs to their districts. Hold Lockheed Martin accountable for the over spending, it isn't happening, I knew the jobs was going to Vermont.
A link to ILA, it is really necessary, you know what his vote was, you know he voted for the AUMF 2001 because we know only one congressional member voted against it and her name is not Bernie Sanders. As I said, I know what Hillary has voted for and against, I would think Sanders supporters knows also what he has voted for and against.
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)mhatrw
(10,786 posts)or the SoS who works desperately to hard sell Lockheed's product to India?
The visiting US secretary of state Hillary Clinton is understood to have made a strong pitch for more US military sales to India, especially in the wake of American companies recently losing out in the race for a $ 10.4 billion order by the Indian Air Force for 126 fighter aircraft.
Sources said Clinton expressed her countrys willingness to sell state-of-the-art F 35 warplanes to India at unbelievable prices. The Americans are understood to have asked the Indian government to open its purse strings for the Lockheed built fifth generation super stealth F-35 Lightning the basic model of which is being made available to India for $ 65 million apiece. Sources said the offer was too good to be true as much inferior fourth generation French Rafale is priced at $ 85 million and Eurofighter Typhoon (also a fourth generation aircraft) at $ 125 million apiece.
F-35 PRICES SO LOW, YOU'LL THINK SHE'S CRAZY!
mhatrw
(10,786 posts)Sanders is, by far, the candidate who is least beholden to the military security industrial complex of our choices.
CorporatistNation
(2,546 posts)IS TO BUY A FUCKING CONGRESSMAN/CANDIDATE FOR A $MILLION BUCKS or so... Then the ROI (Return on Investment will be in the $BILLION$ through policy advocacy by the "Purchased" Candidate who in return for legislative "support" on behalf of the BENEFACTOR receives ever increasing financial support while a congressman and even more in deferred "gratuities" once they retire...
As a candidate for congress I got "The Offer" to "Play Ball" and turned IT down. As you can see... I am NOT in D.C.!
CorporatistNation
(2,546 posts)That she would not "accept." Bernie on the other hand.... "Not So Much!"
gordyfl
(598 posts)"One of Burlington's largest employers was Martin Marietta. When that defense contractor merged with Lockheed to form Lockheed-Martin, I was more than usually attuned to the implication of that deal--the downsizing of 17,000 American workers. For making the "tough decision" to fire all those workers, the executives of the newly merged company decided to pay themselves $91 million in executive bonuses. $91 million as a reward for obliterating 17,000 jobs.
Now, a $91 million bonus for executives who were laying off 17,000 workers is obscene enough. Fully 1/3 of that money, $31 million, was to come from the Pentagon as "restructuring costs."
As soon as I learned about this outrageous federal giveaway, I drafted an amendment to prevent the Pentagon from paying the bonus. Imagine: workers thrown out of their jobs paying taxes so that the bastards who fired them could stuff their pockets. We termed the legislation the "payoffs for layoffs" amendment. The amendment passed by voice vote.
Frankly, the big money interests do not intimidate me--not the medical indusrial complex, not Wall Street or the American Bankers Association.
Exposing the outrageous practice by which the Defense Department subsidized corporate mergers and the laying off of tens of thousands of workers is precisely what I was elected to do." - Bernie Sanders Outsider in the White House
Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)SmittynMo
(3,544 posts)One would think that there would be hundreds of recs and posts here.
Nope!!!
Damn we're stupid.
I will never understand why we consistently vote against our own best interest.
Armstead
(47,803 posts)ViseGrip
(3,133 posts)SoapBox
(18,791 posts)Desperately.
davidpdx
(22,000 posts)The American Oligarchs (video)
Robert Reich
Please go over to the thread and K & R.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1017318041
Android3.14
(5,402 posts)As an avid player of backgammon (also known as the game of kings, by the way), the effective strategy is to work for the best outcome and prepare for the worst.
Any strategy gamer, whether it is chess, backgammon, or cards knows that you aim for the biggest return with the least amount of risk. There is no increase in risk in supporting Sanders in the primary, and an immense benefit if he wins. If that comes to be, then we have enthusiastic cross-party support, coattails for local races and the best chance of making a real change since FDR. And if Hillary wins, then we all vote the party ticket. With the latter, we have the greatest risk of losing the general election and the least benefit with that outcome.
I'll repeat the main point. There is no increase in risk in supporting Sanders in the primary, and an immense benefit if he wins.
If Sander's represents your values more so than Clinton, only a deluded idiot or a total loser would refrain from casting a vote for him in the primary.
99th_Monkey
(19,326 posts)That would make a great OP actually.
I mean, folks who are claiming to be "progressive" and hesitating to support Bernie because ...
uhh.. because why? the reasons I hear ring empty and hollow ... like
1) Bernie can't win the GE (most recent polls show he does WAY better in GE than Hillary now)
2) Hiilary has more foreign policy experience (but it's all the WRONG kind of experience by
ANY progressive metric; while Bernie's been consistently progressive on FP for decades)
3) Hillary is inevitable (this is a self-fulfilling prophecy, only true because so-called progressives
drink that cool-aid and vote against their own beliefs and best interests.
None of the reasons most often given hold any water. Anyways, thanks for your post
Android3.14
(5,402 posts)I was city backgammon champion when I was still in high school, and supporting Sanders in the primary is like choosing whether or not to knock your opponent's piece to the bar without leaving your piece open.
It is a blatantly obvious move to support Sanders in the primary, given the lack of negative impact on the chances of a Democratic win in the general and huge payoff a Sanders presidency could bring.
ViseGrip
(3,133 posts)MohRokTah
(15,429 posts)
JTFrog
(14,274 posts)Born Jared Corey Kushner
January 10, 1981 (age 34)
Residence New York City, New York, U.S.
Education The Frisch School
Alma mater Harvard University (A.B.)
New York University (J.D.)
Occupation Real estate developer, newspaper publisher, investor
Known for Co-owner of Kushner Properties
Owner of The New York Observer
Religion Judaism
Spouse(s) Ivanka Trump (2009present)
Children 2
Parent(s) Seryl Stadtmauer
Charles Kushner
Relatives Joshua Kushner (brother)
Nicole Kushner (sister)
Dara Kushner (sister)
Donald Trump (father-in-law)
Ivana Trump (mother-in-law)
Donald Trump Jr. (brother-in-law)
Eric Trump (brother-in-law)
Tiffany Trump (half-sister-in-law)
Barron Trump (half-brother-in-law)
Melania Trump (stepmother-in-law)
mhatrw
(10,786 posts)So kill the messenger has now graduated to kill the publisher?
JTFrog
(14,274 posts)But as Skinner has said in the past, you take your chances of getting that shit hidden.
As a paying member of DU, I would love to see the TOS and Community Standards adhered to.
Democratic Underground is an online community for politically liberal people who understand the importance of working within the system to elect more Democrats and fewer Republicans to all levels of political office. Teabaggers, Neo-cons, Dittoheads, Paulites, Freepers, Birthers, and right-wingers in general are not welcome here. Neither are certain extreme-fringe left-wingers, including advocates of violent political/social change, hard-line communists, terrorist-apologists, America-haters, kooks, crackpots, LaRouchies, and the like.
And again, why in the hell does any DUer want to drive traffic to Donald Trump's son in law's website and why the fuck do we care what the right wingers have to say about our candidates?
gordyfl
(598 posts)
JTFrog
(14,274 posts)Do folks really not give two shits what right wing source they use to attack Democrats on DU?
Yes, rhetorical question.
ViseGrip
(3,133 posts)JTFrog
(14,274 posts)Once upon a time DU was a place that recognized right wing propaganda. Now it's just thrown around at whim because some people's hatred outweigh any chance of common sense.
ViseGrip
(3,133 posts)JTFrog
(14,274 posts)turning this place into a dumping ground for right wing propaganda. And why would any DUer want to drive traffic to Trump's son in law's website? Clicky clicky.
ViseGrip
(3,133 posts)JTFrog
(14,274 posts)
Oilwellian
(12,647 posts)May I suggest you research him so you don't appear so foolish.
CorporatistNation
(2,546 posts)FUCKING LOADED WITH REPUBLICANS WHO register as Dems just to ... THROW SAND IN THE GEARS?
I live in Florida and a high proportion of Democrats who are active in the party are ... clearly there to assist in keeping republicans in office. As a former candidate for Congress both as a Democratic Nominee and as a Progressive No Party Candidate, I can assure you that my biggest obstacle was The Florida Democratic Party on each occasion.
mhatrw
(10,786 posts)Six media conglomerates control 90%+ of our media outlets today. If we censored journalists and commentators based on their corporate ties, what would we have left to discuss?
Oilwellian
(12,647 posts)Where am I? Free Republic?
CorporatistNation
(2,546 posts)in this case it MOST ASSUREDLY IS!
wildeyed
(11,243 posts)and random bold text and italics and Randomly "Capitalized" Words. Even the Village Idiot Can See It Means There Is a Conspiracy Afoot!
firebrand80
(2,760 posts)wildeyed
(11,243 posts)that does that based on buzzwords combined with a logical fallacy. It works pretty well.
"Fat cat Hillary Clinton is no better than evil Republicans."
"Liar Hillary Clinton is worse than oozing Margaret Thatcher."
I made a Hillbot response generator, but that one only does ad hominem attacks.
If I get bored maybe I will make one the does faux intellectual rhetoric since that seems to be the rage right now. Or maybe I will get a life..... One of those.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)If you don't see this you are asleep. Wake the fuck up!
Uncle Joe
(61,487 posts)Thanks for the thread, CorporatistNation.
CorporatistNation
(2,546 posts)
Babel_17
(5,400 posts)From the mid-1970s to 1990, Budowsky served in senior congressional staff positions including legislative assistant to former Senator Lloyd Bentsen;[6] extensively involved with the Intelligence Identities Protection Act and Intelligence Officers Death Benefits Act, and legislative director to Representative Bill Alexander, then the Chief Deputy Majority Whip.
wildeyed
(11,243 posts)Whatever his political affiliation, even the Village Idiot can see, that article is Not Good.
Babel_17
(5,400 posts)But just when you hit your stride, you stopped.
wildeyed
(11,243 posts)Brent Budowsky only gives "Village Idiot".
Now HA Goodman...... THAT is a writer of bad political rhetoric for the ages.
Babel_17
(5,400 posts)ViseGrip
(3,133 posts)then repeat....