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Gravis Marketing/One America News 1/10 - Hillary Clinton 65% - Bernie Sanders 26% (Original Post) Alfresco Jan 2016 OP
Shit! Sanders is losing ground! This sucks. At least we have another poll that tells a completely Ed Suspicious Jan 2016 #1
The issue is actually the pollsters from the past three days Godhumor Jan 2016 #2
We will have clarity on Wednesday ram2008 Jan 2016 #3
ARG Art_from_Ark Jan 2016 #4
I'm going to guess we're going to see 3-5 point ranges in both states Godhumor Jan 2016 #5

Ed Suspicious

(8,879 posts)
1. Shit! Sanders is losing ground! This sucks. At least we have another poll that tells a completely
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 02:46 AM
Jan 2016

opposite story. I think maybe, as a rule, polls are straight up bullshit at this point.

Godhumor

(6,437 posts)
2. The issue is actually the pollsters from the past three days
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 02:52 AM
Jan 2016

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ARG is spittle. Just one of the worst pollsters in the game.

IBD/TIPP have a history of showing massive swings trying to be the first or of fate to identify new trends (The infamous McCain winning 74% of the youth vote springs to mind.)

And Gravis, well, they're just not very good either.

In the next few days we will start getting more of the decent players releasing Iowa polls, primarily. That is when we will see whether anything has really changed or not.

ram2008

(1,238 posts)
3. We will have clarity on Wednesday
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 03:00 AM
Jan 2016

That's when Ann Selzer is releasing her gold standard Iowa poll. PPP and Quinnipiac should also be releasing some polls over the next few days and they're generally accurate. My hunch is the real numbers are about 10-15 point Hillary lead nationally, 2-5 point lead for Hillary in Iowa, and 5-10 point lead for Sanders in NH. We'll see what happens over the next few days, but really the only thing that matters is Iowa.

ARG, Gravis and Reuters are on the bottom of the totem pole, so I wouldn't pay any attention to them at all.

Godhumor

(6,437 posts)
5. I'm going to guess we're going to see 3-5 point ranges in both states
Tue Jan 12, 2016, 03:19 AM
Jan 2016

One favoring each candidate.

Easier to claim accuracy in a close race if you keep everyone close to the MOE (Yes, I'm being cynical again.).

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