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Politifact strikes again! (Original Post) Proud Liberal Dem Feb 2012 OP
This message was self-deleted by its author Tesha Feb 2012 #1
I can't wrap my head around it either Proud Liberal Dem Feb 2012 #2
Another Epic Fail! One of the 99 Feb 2012 #3
Politifact EC Feb 2012 #4
the whole statement grantcart Feb 2012 #5
But by their OWN admission, "more" can have more than one meaning in this case rocktivity Feb 2012 #8
It's unfortunate a site like politifact has become so obviously flawed... Drunken Irishman Feb 2012 #6
is there a way to make them as reviled of a source as FoxNews? Obama3_16 Feb 2012 #7

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Proud Liberal Dem

(24,412 posts)
2. I can't wrap my head around it either
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 11:29 AM
Feb 2012

My only conclusion is that they've got to do a certain number of negative Obama/Democrat pieces to "balance" what I'm sure is a potential tsunami of negative GOP pieces and, while I'm sure the neither side has their hands completely clean when it comes to telling the unvarnished and absolute truth, it feels like they have to s--t--r--e--t--c-h, contort, and twist a lot of things to arrive at a negative ruling for Obama/Democrats. The fact of the matter is that Democrats just don't say as much dumb/false stuff as Republicans IMHO (or at least they keep it to themselves and don't actually say it out loud where the media circus could pick up on it).

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
5. the whole statement
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 02:35 PM
Feb 2012

Rubio said. "No candidate has run more negative ads in American history than Barack Obama did in 2008, especially in the general.’’ In sheer numbers, that statement is correct: Obama bought many more ads than McCain did, both positive and negative. Nevertheless, two studies suggest that, overall, Obama's ads were not significantly more negative than his rival. He ran the most negative ads because he ran the most ads. We rate Rubio's statement Mostly True.

rocktivity

(44,576 posts)
8. But by their OWN admission, "more" can have more than one meaning in this case
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 04:28 PM
Feb 2012

Last edited Tue Aug 7, 2012, 10:28 PM - Edit history (11)

Did Obama put out a LARGER NUMBER of negative ads? Yes. Then in terms of the NUMBER of ads, Rubio's statement is 100% true.

But were Obama's ads more negative IN SUBSTANCE than everyone else's? Based on their research, they say no. Then in terms of the SUBSTANCE of the ads, Rubio's statement is 100% FALSE.

That leaves ONLY ONE possible rating for Rubio's statement -- based on their own criteria, it HAS to be "HALF true!"


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Drunken Irishman

(34,857 posts)
6. It's unfortunate a site like politifact has become so obviously flawed...
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 04:02 PM
Feb 2012

It was really a legit source to smack down lies and now they push 'em.

'Mostly true'? Bullshit. It's not mostly true. It's a deceptive comment.

 

Obama3_16

(157 posts)
7. is there a way to make them as reviled of a source as FoxNews?
Wed Feb 8, 2012, 04:06 PM
Feb 2012

that is our only hope. I don't think politifact is going anywhere....so time to utterly discredit them so no one pays attention to them the way they do Snopes.com

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