Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search
55 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
If 3 Little Girls Did This To My House, I'd Do Everything I Could To Get Them Full Rides To Harvard (Original Post) seabeyond Nov 2013 OP
Awsome! Lyrics here: NYC_SKP Nov 2013 #1
thank you so much for putting up the lyrics. i can rarely heard the words, just beat. seabeyond Nov 2013 #3
How cool ismnotwasm Nov 2013 #2
me, too. i am stealing to put on FB. lol. nt seabeyond Nov 2013 #4
That was great Gothmog Nov 2013 #5
I think that channel changer was a tad bit over engineered... just saying.. penultimate Nov 2013 #6
i think much of it was. and who cares. nt seabeyond Nov 2013 #17
Thank You! tech3149 Nov 2013 #7
Heh! ismnotwasm Nov 2013 #8
That I should live so long to see this! Demeter Nov 2013 #9
hugzzz. good for you. pink looks good on me with my coloring, lol seabeyond Nov 2013 #18
You know what I think? llmart Nov 2013 #10
point. i played school teacher with the dolls. they HAD to learn, be well behaved and respectful seabeyond Nov 2013 #19
I love it! sheshe2 Nov 2013 #11
you are welcome sheshe. nt seabeyond Nov 2013 #20
Or MiT or RISD or progressoid Nov 2013 #12
Awesome post! Thanks! ancianita Nov 2013 #13
I sent the URL to my post graduate engineer daughter, who is working on her degree. RC Nov 2013 #14
ha. the best. and i sent it to my "princess" niece, lol. and told her mom seabeyond Nov 2013 #21
K&R ReRe Nov 2013 #15
ahhh. that is a great story to repeatedly be told. nt seabeyond Nov 2013 #22
I love that story... ReRe Nov 2013 #25
that is cool. statistics took me out. lol. nt seabeyond Nov 2013 #26
It takes all kinds ReRe Nov 2013 #27
yes. you. right on. and yes. we all have our role/place. nt seabeyond Nov 2013 #28
Harvard? I'd be saving up for MIT AtheistCrusader Nov 2013 #16
true that. nt seabeyond Nov 2013 #23
Wait. This is just to sell a toy tool kit marketed specifically at girls. SheilaT Nov 2013 #24
Which is a interesting point ismnotwasm Nov 2013 #30
All anyone seems to have seen that SheilaT Nov 2013 #31
Heh! ismnotwasm Nov 2013 #33
i think we all about know that. and. who cares. not the point. nt seabeyond Nov 2013 #36
Then what is the point? SheilaT Nov 2013 #49
i know what it is up to the parents to do. and yes, i think this is a good song for our girls to seabeyond Nov 2013 #52
"And it's the tool kit for girls that I actually find offensive." MadrasT Nov 2013 #39
Oh, Sheila T........ llmart Nov 2013 #46
Thank you. What a nice thing to say. SheilaT Nov 2013 #54
Stanford Mech Eng One_Life_To_Give Nov 2013 #47
She didn't need a special tool kit for girls. SheilaT Nov 2013 #50
ok. agreed. still like the song... nt seabeyond Nov 2013 #51
Bingo Stuckinthebush Nov 2013 #53
Just like the Affordable Care Act ErikJ Nov 2013 #29
Where I live the girls are in control. I worry about the boys. tblue Nov 2013 #32
That's an entirely different topic, but one that needs to be discussed ismnotwasm Nov 2013 #34
you do not know how much i have faced, boys will be boys, addressing any academic issue seabeyond Nov 2013 #38
Boy will be MEN ismnotwasm Nov 2013 #40
damn straight. and they know that too. they know at 2, 8, 15, they are not men. they are boys. seabeyond Nov 2013 #42
I worry very much about the decline of young men GeoWilliam750 Nov 2013 #41
ooops, lol. do nOT read my post about demanding higher expectations. lol seabeyond Nov 2013 #43
btw, i agree with you. all those factors. and others. economic environment is one. what i found seabeyond Nov 2013 #44
Ok ismnotwasm Nov 2013 #45
two boys. one in college, one highschool. poppy cock. put the onus on the parents. nt seabeyond Nov 2013 #37
Love it!! GeoWilliam750 Nov 2013 #35
With four ggrand-daughters approaching these ages, I'm in awe and relish their indepat Nov 2013 #48
kawaiiiiii ne! yuiyoshida Nov 2013 #55
 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
1. Awsome! Lyrics here:
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 01:47 PM
Nov 2013
Music: PicoSound Animation by: Ed Skudder & Lynn Wang Special thanks to GitHub Studios

Girls. You think you know what we want, girls.
Pink and pretty it's girls.
Just like the 50's it's girls.
You like to buy us pink toys and everything else is for boys and you can always get us dolls and we'll grow up like them... false.
It's time to change. We deserve to see a range. 'Cause all our toys look just the same and we would like to use our brains. We are all more than princess maids.

Girls to build the spaceship, Girls to code the new app,
Girls to grow up knowing they can engineer that.
Girls. That's all we really need is Girls. To bring us up to speed it's Girls.
Our opportunity is Girls. Don't underestimate Girls.


http://www.goldieblox.com/



 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
3. thank you so much for putting up the lyrics. i can rarely heard the words, just beat.
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 01:50 PM
Nov 2013

i am sending this to my niece and her little .... girl. lol

and the lyrics. thanks.

tech3149

(4,452 posts)
7. Thank You!
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 02:06 PM
Nov 2013

I learned before I was 10 to NEVER underestimate girls. It's not only painful, it's a waste.

 

Demeter

(85,373 posts)
9. That I should live so long to see this!
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 02:17 PM
Nov 2013

Welcome to my future sister engineers! From me BSEE 1976 and my sister BSCE(Paper) 1979

BTW, I HATE pink. Comes from living in a pink bedroom for 9 years....

llmart

(15,536 posts)
10. You know what I think?
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 02:20 PM
Nov 2013

They can stop with the princess crap. I'm so sick of it - parents buying their little girls clothes with "princess" on it. Yuck.

My daughter is 38 now but I got her a doll for Christmas one year when she was about 4 and it didn't get played with very much. However, she was outside all the time collecting acorns for the squirrels, filling the pockets of her jacket with dirt, and generally getting dirty, aka "having fun".

In the 1950's I was the biggest "tomboy" (not sure I like that term, but that's what I was called), always trying to keep up with my three brothers.

I worked at a law school where more than 50% of the graduates were women.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
19. point. i played school teacher with the dolls. they HAD to learn, be well behaved and respectful
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 03:10 PM
Nov 2013

to the teacher. lol

and ya. outside.

my nieces. one out of four was a girly girl. the other three were outside playing with sons.

i wouldnt have it any other way

so damn tired of the conditioned roles to make us less.

 

RC

(25,592 posts)
14. I sent the URL to my post graduate engineer daughter, who is working on her degree.
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 02:57 PM
Nov 2013

Her most favorite toy as a child was a set of Lincoln Logs.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
21. ha. the best. and i sent it to my "princess" niece, lol. and told her mom
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 03:12 PM
Nov 2013

to be sure to type out on my fb page that i linked it to, all the reasons the niece likes the video. i cannot wait to hear what this 6 yr old says. she has grown so much since about three and me saying.... eeeeew, princess. lol

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
15. K&R
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 03:02 PM
Nov 2013

Girls! Reminds me of my great nephew at school one day on the playground. Boys were bragging on their grandma's. "Yeah but, my grandma is a _____." When it come great nephews turn, with a big confident grin from ear to ear... "Yeah, but my Grandma is a rocket scientist!" And it was the truth! Times, they-are-a-changing, girls.

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
25. I love that story...
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 03:25 PM
Nov 2013

because it's true. Little sis is an aerospace engineer and is talented in so many other ways. I'm so proud of her.

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
27. It takes all kinds
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 03:38 PM
Nov 2013

I never was good at calculating statistics either. But I have a great interest and appreciation in thier results!

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
24. Wait. This is just to sell a toy tool kit marketed specifically at girls.
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 03:22 PM
Nov 2013

Not to mention these girls did not do all that rube goldberg stuff by themselves.

I've got a better idea, if you're the parent of a girl. Turn off the girlie TV shows. Do not buy them magazines for girls. Buy them the regular building toys that are mostly bought for boys. Send them to summer camps that involve doing things of many different sorts, but are not just girlie things.

Read to them from books about science and nature when they are very young, and buy them more of the same as they get older. Don't ever suggest to them that they can't do math and science.

Of course, if your girl is a talented ballerina, do encourage her in what she's best at.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
31. All anyone seems to have seen that
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 04:43 PM
Nov 2013

supposedly these girls did a cool boy-type, engineering sort of thing. But it takes less than 10 seconds of thought to realize these girls would not have been able to do that by themselves. And it's the tool kit for girls that I actually find offensive.

I'd rather a video that shows some girl pushing aside her brother and playing with his construction set. Okay, so I shouldn't encourage the implicit bullying, but still.

I'm still annoyed that when I was a little girl in the 1950's I was not allowed to play with my brothers' Erector Set.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
49. Then what is the point?
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 08:10 PM
Nov 2013

It really is a patronizing ad. Even if they had pretended the girls had done it themselves by not showing us the behind the scenes stuff, in the end there is a "separate but equal" aspect that really bothers me.

It is up to parents to ignore the princess bullshit and raise their girls to be people, not just princess girls. You simply don't have to buy any of that crap.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
52. i know what it is up to the parents to do. and yes, i think this is a good song for our girls to
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 08:17 PM
Nov 2013

hear.

MadrasT

(7,237 posts)
39. "And it's the tool kit for girls that I actually find offensive."
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 05:17 PM
Nov 2013

I am right there on the same page. I don't know why we have to make stuff into something society perceives as "girly" to make it OK for girls to use it.

llmart

(15,536 posts)
46. Oh, Sheila T........
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 06:10 PM
Nov 2013

you and I would get along famously Every time I read your posts I think "Hmmm....if she lived closer I'd probably want to be her friend."

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
54. Thank you. What a nice thing to say.
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 09:30 PM
Nov 2013

If you're ever going to be in Santa Fe, give me a holler.

One_Life_To_Give

(6,036 posts)
47. Stanford Mech Eng
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 06:52 PM
Nov 2013

CEO is listed as having her Mechanical Engineering degree from Stanford. And the toys represent what she wishes she had when growing up.

I am biased in that the Erector set was my favorite. But I don't think there is only one way to ignite a child's interest in Engineering.

 

SheilaT

(23,156 posts)
50. She didn't need a special tool kit for girls.
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 08:12 PM
Nov 2013

She could have used the ones made for boys, or played with the Erector set and so on.

This just makes the ghetto that much more acceptable. "Oh, yes, girls can do these things. Let's give them their very own tool set!"

Stuckinthebush

(10,844 posts)
53. Bingo
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 07:44 PM
Nov 2013

Sheila - you are correct with your critical look at this advertisement. Good eye.

It is a very good message that needs to be reiterated, however.

tblue

(16,350 posts)
32. Where I live the girls are in control. I worry about the boys.
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 04:45 PM
Nov 2013

Those pink tea-set stereotypes don't fit. Girls here wouldn't even recognize them. The young women I know are not intimidated by anything or anybody. They are fiercely competitive scholars and they win regional and national academic honors. It's now a fact that more girls in the US go to college and get higher degrees. Generally, girls tend to exhibit the traits of an 'ideal student,' and that serves them well. (I teach, and there IS a gender difference.) So sometimes I worry about boys, especially when it's assumed they don't need attention and encouragement. A lot of boys, especially in poorer communities, really do, though they have a harder time seeking help, and there aren't many institutions making sure boys get what they need.

In my family we girls were pushed to go to college while my brother was not. It was assumed women needed the education to get a decent paying job, but a man could get by without it. It wasn't fair on my dad's part and it has made a glaring difference in all of our lives. This was typical of black families back in the day. I do think the needs of young men are recognized more these days, thank goodness. I'm all for helping girls succeed, but our young men need us too. One gender is not better or more important than another. Gender pride is great but you don't see boys doing videos saying how wonderful we boys are (implying you're not).

ismnotwasm

(41,976 posts)
34. That's an entirely different topic, but one that needs to be discussed
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 04:54 PM
Nov 2013

Young men, for a variety of reasons are either not going or failing in college.

http://management.fortune.cnn.com/2013/03/27/college-graduation-gender-salaries/

For the black communities, it's even more complicated and a larger conversation--but still something that needs to be discussed and problem solved.

http://www.jbhe.com/features/50_blackstudent_gradrates.html

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
38. you do not know how much i have faced, boys will be boys, addressing any academic issue
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 05:14 PM
Nov 2013

my boys had in school.

at first i gently guided teaches to have a higher expectation of my boys. by fourth grade i was DEMANDING that they have a higher expectation with the explanation that if they had a higher expectation, they would meet it. or at least get closer to it than with excuses of .... boys will be boys.

ismnotwasm

(41,976 posts)
40. Boy will be MEN
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 05:19 PM
Nov 2013

And men deserve to go through life without heterosexist masculinities to impede their success. Good job Mom!

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
42. damn straight. and they know that too. they know at 2, 8, 15, they are not men. they are boys.
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 05:25 PM
Nov 2013

and in this journey, THEY get to figure out what being a man is.

yup

boy will BE men

GeoWilliam750

(2,522 posts)
41. I worry very much about the decline of young men
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 05:19 PM
Nov 2013

And the articles you reference are interesting indeed.

At this point, I can only speculate about the reasons that young men have so lost focus, but would wonder about some combination of video games, violent TV with images that change every one or two seconds, porn, overly intense expectations from parents (that can never be met) leading to burnout, poor socialisation, and a host of other things.

Lots more thought on this, but must run.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
43. ooops, lol. do nOT read my post about demanding higher expectations. lol
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 05:26 PM
Nov 2013

i jest. cause though i am demanding, i am also accepting. my oldest says i am the toughest of tough as a parent in some things and the easiest damn parent in others.

balance.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
44. btw, i agree with you. all those factors. and others. economic environment is one. what i found
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 05:28 PM
Nov 2013

in middle school and a little younger, until about junior in high school, there was such peer pressure to being stupid. my boys fought that regularly. not other kids, but that expectation and mentality.

indepat

(20,899 posts)
48. With four ggrand-daughters approaching these ages, I'm in awe and relish their
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 07:42 PM
Nov 2013

antics, energy, and ingenuity.

Latest Discussions»Alliance Forums»History of Feminism»If 3 Little Girls Did Thi...